China Taiwan Province (ROC): News, Discussions & Images

[Beast]

BTW, those KMT members who refuse to surrender to PRC shall all get destroyed without any mercy.

They are helping the enemy to harm China's national interests.

It is human nature for a king not to give up Kings throne to another power. But no more are the times of chiang anti communist stance. KMT are not that anti China anymore but I have to admit they are not very capable in governing Taiwan so far.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

It is human nature for a king not to give up Kings throne to another power. But no more are the times of chiang anti communist stance. KMT are not that anti China anymore but I have to admit they are not very capable in governing Taiwan so far.

Trust me, they have not changed a bit about their hatred on CPC.

Just don't get fooled by their today's weak/pitiful look.

 

[Beidou2020]

CPC need to be more ruthless, they are too soft on many things. I want China to have a more hardline foreign policy especially towards the West.

 

[TaiShang]

Taiwan’s provocation embarrasses itself

US State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki Tuesday denounced Taiwan after it raised its flag on New Year's Day at the residence of its representative to Washington, DC. Psaki said the US is "disappointed with the action" as it violated a long-held understanding of the unofficial relations between the two sides. This dealt a blow to Taiwan.

Taiwan's flag-raising ceremony at the Twin Oaks estate on New Year's Day was attended by its military representatives. Some attendees' eyes were said to be tear-filled, as this was the first time that the island's flag was raised there after it was lowered on the last day of 1978, one day before Beijing and Washington officially established diplomatic ties.

This latest ceremony was hailed by Taiwanese media as a breakthrough while Washington said it was unaware of the event and then expressed its disappointment.

Most analysts in the Chinese mainland hold that the incident is more complicated than the US just being unaware. But under pressure from the mainland, the US reaction has apparently humiliated Taiwan by reiterating its unofficial relations with Taiwan.

It is the stance of not only Beijing, but most countries in the world, that Taiwan is not a nation. As Taiwan rejects unification with the mainland, it must live with the undesirable reality of its limited capacity for diplomacy.

Taiwan resorted to diplomatic trickery when led by Chen Shui-bian, yet the current Ma Ying-jeou government has seemingly turned to similar tricks after the Kuomintang (KMT) was defeated in elections late last year. But they have to keep in mind that the mainland has far more cards to play in dealing with any diplomatic act by Taiwan, as more than a few countries that have "diplomatic relations" with Taiwan want to switch their recognition.

The mainland never intends to humiliate Taiwan, but the island has to keep its self-esteem and abide by the existing rules in cross-Straits relations and not make provocative actions.

The recent election results have changed Taiwan's political landscape with a new trend being shaped. There may have been a build-up in negative feelings toward the mainland, and now, these are being expressed.

Some in Taiwan always think that they have US support, but they overestimate the protection that Washington can offer. As the mainland's tolerance means more and more to Taiwan, irritating the mainland will bring costs to the island. In the worst scenario when advocacy for Taiwan independence makes cross-Straits peace unsustainable or at a higher cost than waging a war, the US won't stand up for Taiwan.

Taiwan often uses such trickery to inflame its people, but this will make Taiwan less respectable when dealing with Washington and Beijing. As the mainland grows stronger, some day Taiwan may become a negative asset to US diplomacy.

Political stability must be kept or even more, there should be a breakthrough in cross-Straits relations. Any moves by the Taiwan government should be directed toward this goal; any other actions are unjustified.

The KMT shouldn't think that the mainland will tolerate its government's excessive actions given its election plight. If it wants to take the risk, then it must prepare to be embarrassed.

 

[Yizhi]

don't see Taiwan relevant in a real way these days. Washington-Beijing relationship is far more important than Taiwan.

 

[TaiShang]

don't see Taiwan relevant in a real way these days. Washington-Beijing relationship is far more important than Taiwan.

The article is one of the sternest I have read recently and makes direct reference to the fact that whatever recognition Taiwan may have today, it is not because they have any meaningful political relevance today, but because Beijing still desires to solve the Taiwan problem peacefully, rather than chocking its few remaining breathing tubes.

 

[Red Spinifex]

The mainland never intends to humiliate Taiwan...

That's drivel. The PRC goes out its way to try and humiliate and bully Taiwan at every opportunity. That's one of the reasons why the Taiwanese don't want to be under the rule of the CCP or part of the PRC. As I've said before, the PRC should stop blathering about taking over Taiwan and do it if they can. They have signally failed to take Taiwan in 66 years.

 

[TaiShang]

That's drivel. The PRC goes out its way to try and humiliate and bully Taiwan at every opportunity. That's one of the reasons why the Taiwanese don't want to be under the rule of the CCP or part of the PRC. As I've said before, the PRC should stop blathering about taking over Taiwan and do it if they can. They have signally failed to take Taiwan in 66 years.

Patience, dude, patience.

Beijing will bully Taipei as it wishes. At times Washington D.C. bullies California, as well.

 

[Red Spinifex]

Patience, dude, patience.

We'll see, "dude".

 

[TaiShang]

We'll see, "dude".

That's why I advice you patience, chap. Wait and see.

 

[Beast]

That's drivel. The PRC goes out its way to try and humiliate and bully Taiwan at every opportunity. That's one of the reasons why the Taiwanese don't want to be under the rule of the CCP or part of the PRC. As I've said before, the PRC should stop blathering about taking over Taiwan and do it if they can. They have signally failed to take Taiwan in 66 years.

China don't take Taiwan becos she is merciful and not becos she can't. ROC don't push their luck too far.

China can even bring Taiwan to kneels without military intervention. If Taiwan declare independence, China has the right to nationalise all Taiwanese asset and that included the giant Foxconn. You can imagine the chill it send to Taiwanese stock market.

 

[Red Spinifex]

That's why I advice you patience, chap. Wait and see.

That's why I'm implying what you say remains to be seen, old boy!

 

[TaiShang]

That's why I'm implying what you say remains to be seen, old boy!

I am not implying anything, fella, other than sharing an article and responding to your drivel that basically reads "Whoa, why don't you take Taiwan if you claim you can?"

Is this all you can say to deny the factual/empirical argument made in the article?

 

[terranMarine]

That's drivel. The PRC goes out its way to try and humiliate and bully Taiwan at every opportunity. That's one of the reasons why the Taiwanese don't want to be under the rule of the CCP or part of the PRC. As I've said before, the PRC should stop blathering about taking over Taiwan and do it if they can. They have signally failed to take Taiwan in 66 years.

Don't worry, China will take Taiwan when the time comes and there's nothing that will stand in our way. If China has failed then why isn't Taiwan an independent state by now? Obviously you are not that bright my chap. Since you see it as bully, then explain to me how is Mainland bullying Taiwan?

 

[TaiShang]

66 years is long enough to be patient.

No, California is a sovereign state under the U.S. Constitution. All states of the Union are sovereign states with rights that cannot be violated by the U.S. Federal government. The Federal government cannot bully California the way the CCP tries to bully Taiwan. You are an ignorant fool.

66 years is too short, my fair lady.

As I have studied Public Policy in the US, I am well-informed about how, for example, the money making states resent having to cover the money losing states. And China ain't the US. The example is just for a rough analogy to remind you that Taiwan is a part of China, not a sovereign nation, as has been recognized by the UN.