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you still not realize the severity.
Chinese were very angry with Turkey after 75 and not satisfied with Chinese government inviting Turkey leader to Xinjiang.
this time is a chance for Chinese government to correct the false policy.
But you dont understand Turkey changed its politics. Todays Turkey is not under control of others as in the past. If china and Turkey destroy their relations only two of them lost . For me I personally dont care China but its not the pragmatic way to solve the problems.
I hope your leaders are clever enough as Russians to understand todays Turkey position and intentions.
So you meant Turkey has been used by others to mess up with China? Turkey is for sure the loudest mouth right now.
No not used, its Turkey's decision. In reality Turkey wait as much as possible until world's pressure rise towards Turkey.
 
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But you dont understand Turkey changed its politics. Todays Turkey is not under control of others as in the past. If china and Turkey destroy their relations only two of them lost . For me I personally dont care China but its not the pragmatic way to solve the problems.
I hope your leaders are clever enough as Russians to understand todays Turkey position and intentions.

No not used, its Turkey's decision. In reality Turkey wait as much as possible until world's pressure rise towards Turkey.

I didn't think Turkey has changed, China will react whatever Turkey does.
 
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Turkey's trade balance with China -20 billion. China's funding sources and hot money input are in the range of 1-3%. Hopefully China will take more serious steps to please the domestic manufacturers. Also , We do not need Chinese manufacturers, which they send products in their mailing envelopes to avoid customs duty.
 
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Turkey should stay away from internal matter of China. Also Muslim should not do tableegh and message of Islam in China. China is not a muslim country. Let them live. Their country , Their rule!
Turkey is not opposed to China or internal affairs, just some reportings about worrying because not mainstream but espicially opposed media report this issue all day.

If the international press and organizations have a conspiracy against China, China's righteousness will appear in time. When the Turks expressed their concerns, we saw very few sane Chinese responding to these arguments. Majority of them choose to be troll in entire World Affairs , ME and Turkish sections. Why are you so worried? Could you have said the same thing you wrote above , for about Serbs 30 years ago... While just before the Serbs-Bosniaks crisis. Or were you with Bosnian Muslims during the political process, because you had no interests with Serbs?

Do you think Pakistan has never raised concerns about another country? Even Pakistan is not such a country, why you impose on that here? What happened in the last week and the attitude of moderation has caused great damage to the image of the PDF , for us.

We never advertised any terrorist organization here. If some of us have trolling the Chinese forums , they have been banned by Mod. So they're punished. However, while to use the flag of the terrorist organization as an avatar, or directly attacking the sacred things of any country with hate language was a reason of permanent ban, these people did not receive any punishment. This double standard hurts the conscience, and it will be an important point of reference if there is a precedent event.

We chose not to exacerbate this issue because our Pakistani government is managing a very serious crisis.

Although there are many new titles in other defense projects, especially the biggest naval drill of our republic history, our activities have been limited for the last few days. Because our eyes are on the border of Pakistan and we pray.
 
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Chinese should understand we are clever enough to understand the risk potential of uygur issue for China security because we have the same with Kurdish orgin separists.
Uygurs may be use against Chinese security but China's leaders must be consider who can do this. The answer is simple but not Turkey.
The same for Iran has to be done over Azeris but as the usually we helped them and their foreign ministry thanked us.
Before destroying relations with Turkey Chinese must understand Turkey talks about only social politics over Uygurs. There is no secret agenda of Turkey over Uygurs. My advice to Chinese becareful to who have the secret agenda and who are your competitors.In the future China may need help of Turkey.
Uighur is not a security issue in China. But we must be wary of extreme terrorism and pan-Turkism.

Turkey's influence and power are quite limited. Turkey's influence is even weaker than Brazil, India, Saudi and Iran. I believe Turkey has no "secret agenda". Because Turkey does not have the capacity to achieve it.

Finally, please stop suggesting that Turkey and China are in the same place... Find your real place in the world.

Turkey's trade balance with China -20 billion. China's funding sources and hot money input are in the range of 1-3%. Hopefully China will take more serious steps to please the domestic manufacturers. Also , We do not need Chinese manufacturers, which they send products in their mailing envelopes to avoid customs duty.
Really?

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a lot...
 
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Chinese should understand we are clever enough to understand the risk potential of uygur issue for China security because we have the same with Kurdish orgin separists.
Uygurs may be use against Chinese security but China's leaders must be consider who can do this. The answer is simple but not Turkey.
The same for Iran has to be done over Azeris but as the usually we helped them and their foreign ministry thanked us.
Before destroying relations with Turkey Chinese must understand Turkey talks about only social politics over Uygurs. There is no secret agenda of Turkey over Uygurs. My advice to Chinese becareful to who have the secret agenda and who are your competitors.In the future China may need help of Turkey.

no shit, it's the other way around.. you going to need China help now and in the future :D
 
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China was not the one who started this fight so blaming China for not understanding Turkey is ridiculous. No interference of the Chinese domestic affairs is the bottom line of the Chinese foreign policy and Turkey crossed it.
 
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Uighur is not a security issue in China. But we must be wary of extreme terrorism and pan-Turkism.
You will see it as security problem in the future . Western counties know it very well to transform internal problems to security problems.Becoming competitor to US is not that easy
Turkey's influence and power are quite limited. Turkey's influence is even weaker than Brazil, India, Saudi and Iran. I believe Turkey has no "secret agenda". Because Turkey does not have the capacity to achieve it
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no shit, it's the other way around.. you going to need China help now and in the future :D
So sure?
China was not the one who started this fight so blaming China for not understanding Turkey is ridiculous. No interference of the Chinese domestic affairs is the bottom line of the Chinese foreign policy and Turkey crossed it.
Only Turkey or other countries included?
Personally I think China's main problem is USA and they know very well to use proxies. When we come to real world you have to understand that Turkey wont go further than to critize China. May be You solve peacefully your problem.
 
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Personally I think China's main problem is USA and they know very well to use proxies.
China and US are frenemies, US bluffs a lot but you don't see much actions over the decades, they need us more than we need them and they know they can't stop us.
As for the Turkish government, I kind of wonder why your government is so hell bent to make everyone your enemy? US, EU, Saudis and other gulf countries, Egypt, Syria...and now China, is it really the best way to get global attention?
 
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So instead of proving them wrong, they shut the embassy?
Yea, not talking solves issues! :unsure:
 
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China and US are frenemies, US bluffs a lot but you don't see much actions over the decades, they need us more than we need them and they know they can stop us.
I dont agree with You for the future
 
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So instead of proving them wrong, they shut the embassy?
Yea, not talking solves issues! :unsure:
China already invited many journalists and diplomats to Xinjiang including Turkey and issued many statements and statistics about Xinjiang, what proof do you wamt? When the western media says 1 million Uyghurs are detained ,what proof did they provide?
 
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You will see it as security problem in the future . Western counties know it very well to transform internal problems to security problems.Becoming competitor to US is not that easy

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So sure?

Only Turkey or other countries included?
Personally I think China's main problem is USA and they know very well to use proxies. When we come to real world you have to understand that Turkey wont go further than to critize China. May be You solve peacefully your problem.

turkey don't have economy power and military power.. in geopolitical arena. you have very little influence.. so yeah, it's turkey who going to need China.. not the otherways around
 
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Turkey has problems with Egypt, Syria, Saudis and other gulf nations.. can you mediate all?

You forgot west side, Greece, Romania, Bosnia etc. Turks have problems with everybody in the neighborhood.

So instead of proving them wrong, they shut the embassy?
Yea, not talking solves issues! :unsure:

Why should we talk our internal affairs with enemies? Do you talk Baluchistan with India?

Some outsiders make noise about Punjab, then you feel obliged to talk to them?

You are pro Turks, I know u are biased. But it’s a fact Turkey is much weaker than China, less population, economy, military power than China’s a single province. They just asked us a large loan few months back bailing them out during lira crisis.

They are in no position demand us to talk to them for our internal stuff.

Even to USA, we don’t talk to them about our domestic stuff, we talk about trade war, foreign policy.
 
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