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By the way a political debate or a public debate is a democratic system, so i will let you decide how much democracy is fail.

in fact this forum, the whole bloody internet is the amalgamation of democracy. (freedom of expression)

Facts decide how much a democracy fails: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/36495-india-tops-world-hunger-chart.html

Second your 2nd para above.

India may be a flawed democracy, but it isn't all democracy.

People are at fault here not system.

North Korea is a prime example of how communism can also be flawed when people are at fault

that link you just posted, the Information you provided is only available to you because of freedom of Information.

Listen i have nothing against communists, You can do whatever your governments tell you to do and be happy. the is the one choice that is in your hands.

But i am just telling it how it is. If anything i said specifically has been false please feel free to quote me on it.
And enlighten me, on my mistakes
 
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I am amazed at what you, and those who thanked you, are brainwashed by your shameless, low grade, mentally blind, pandemic demoncratic propaganda! You are all affected by the virus!

As a matter of fact, various sources indicate that the democratic Indians are far unhappier than the Chinese under authoritarian rules.

Happiness net statistics - countries compared - NationMaster

#29 China
#36 India

Map Of World Happiness - A Global Projection of Subjective Well-Being: Science Fiction in the News

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Having such an "enemy", "potential enemy", or rival, China should be worry free.

gpt i think you may have mis-understood my words.

Hm i couldn't find the article, u have to provide a better link

but this goes against everything that happened during the end of the cold war.

Mass protest's and marches.
Clearly they were not happy under communist rule,
If the article was true why did they break down the wall ?

and kudos sir,
for you avoiding to address the majority of my previous post
i would like to re-state my previous point "Chinese people have no say in political decisions True or false"
All power lies in CCP so If Indians want to know china's opinion just listen to CCP as the opinions of its people is irrelevant.



The first bit only refers to East Germany and the Berlin wall coming down.
Where communism did fall.

The second part of my post is simply stating
"Chinese people have no say in political decisions
True or false"
All power lies in CCP, so If Indians want to know china's opinion just listen to CCP as public opinion is irrelevant.

Now what is said is absolutely true. If i am not then please feel free to correct me.

With regards to your post.
Fine If Chinese people are happy being communist, good for them. Its their country.
If they are happier than Indians, again good for them. I guess GoI has a lot of work to do and hope fully public opinion and attitudes will eventually steer it in the right direction

But it is worth Pointing out that Countries like USA and Australia are the happiest.

So you can be as pro communist as you like and also happier. But since all the power is with the CCP any way, The only source on what china will do is the CCP. Public opinion is meaningless. Including you opinions regarding what to do with India.

So if you are a true Communist, So if you are a true communist the only opinnion you should have is that of the CCP.

and the Opinion of the CCP is to Promote peace and tranquility.
So why dont you do that ?
 
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You failed to refute any my arguments:

"You can't stop China settled all land dispute with its neighbors but India.

you can't stop India from not resolving land dispute with any its neighbors, to have its imperialistic mentally alive, just as imperialistic british.

You can not expect Indians to vote away hunger, illiteracy."


Just as there are different types of communism, there are different kinds of democracy.

I see US democracy works relatively fine domestically, because, by and large, people live well. If 40% of American children suffered hunger, 40% of total population were illiterate, I'd cry out. I may move out to another country to prevent my children from being stunted. Actually, you (and other countries as well) make democracy look bad.

Now admit your problem, and try to fix it. Don't find excuses for your own countryman's sake!

You democratically elected politicians suck!

The only part of your argument about Indians and Democracy that I agree with is that our politicians suck!!!.....
Other than that, its just hogwash!!!

Communism is a failed concept....the torchbearer of communism has disintegrated and 98% of communist coutries are poor and its people repressed.....
So much so that China did not progress until it moved to a more capitalistic outlook and India with its socialistic principles (Aligned with the USSR) was stuck before the 90's.....
Apart from China, there is no rich communist state.....and that still does not guarantee eradication of poverty, illiteracy and sustained development.....Hence the trend of mass migration of the Chinese.....If China was such a "heaven on earth" why are the Chinese like yourself settling outside of China??
The funny thing is, we can choose to vote away hunger and literacy.....Do the people of China even have the option?? Your government will send you a memo when they think you are suitable to become a B grade citizen......LOL....I pity the average Chinese...
But let me reiterate.....that does not take away anything from the hard work of the Chinese and China's current success.....
But so much so for your failed efforts to get an upper hand on our political system.....

As for the rest of your post:

"You can't stop China settled all land dispute with its neighbors but India.

you can't stop India from not resolving land dispute with any its neighbors, to have its imperialistic mentally alive, just as imperialistic british."


If you read my post again, I have clearly mentioned that 90,000 Sq kms of land is not something we can compensate nor has China compromised on a land so large and of such value to appease another country or for the name of peace......
Indians are not in the business of donating our land and people to please a regional bully....
And as far as disputes, China still has to resolve, Taiwan, AP, Tibet and Aksai Chin....

Indians have just 2 disputes.....and trust me, they are much more significant both strategically and politically than any of the "minor" land disputes China has settled on.....

Prove me wrong about the above if you can.....
 
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Ridiculous.
India invaded China in 1950s and robbed south Tibet to establish the so-called "Arunachal Pradesh", it is totally illegal. This is China's internal affair, not India's!
India should return South Tibet To China, and return Kashmir to Pakistan!

:) The Chinese members will be the ones to better explain their point of view on AP.

I as a Pakistani close to Chinese will side with China.

Thank you, my Pakistan friend.

China and Pakistan unite together, fight against with any evil invaders!
 
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Ridiculous.
India invaded China in 1950s and robbed south Tibet to establish the so-called "Arunachal Pradesh", it is totally illegal. This is China's internal affair, not India's!
India should return South Tibet To China, and return Kashmir to Pakistan!



Thank you, my Pakistan friend.

China and Pakistan unite together, fight against with any evil invaders!
A) before 1950 its was inside china border?
B) We should take Back land our land Pakistan and send all to china. their fav friend.
 
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A) before 1950 its was inside china border?
B) We should take Back land our land Pakistan and send all to china. their fav friend.
If you understand history, you should know that South Tibet has been a part of China since 1296! Of course it belongs to China before 1950s!
India, get out from Kashmir! It belongs to Pakistan!
 
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If you understand history, you should know that South Tibet has been a part of China since 1296! Of course it belongs to China before 1950s!
India, get out from Kashmir! It belongs to Pakistan!

There was no People's Republic of China before 1949. However, it may have belong to the Qing Empire. So when the Qing's come back to power in China, we'll definitely consider returning Arunachal Pradesh to them. Till then, buh bye
 
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If you understand history, you should know that South Tibet has been a part of China since 1296! Of course it belongs to China before 1950s!
India, get out from Kashmir! It belongs to Pakistan!

in 500 Entire PAK / Afgan / J&K /NE/ Tibet is with India , can you please get out of Tibbet also.
 
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Rediculous, you prove again that you know nothing with history. All above only exist in your imagination. In ancient times India is splited into many small states!

Please get out from Sikkim, return Kashmir back to Pakistan, return north lands back to Nepal, return West Bangladesh to Bangladesh! And never interfere into Bhutan's internal affairs!

It's time to split India to many pieces again.
 
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I couldn't follow your Indian logic here. A lot of countries today seem to be more willing to listen to CCP's opinions. :lol:

A. Democracy failed since the Iraq war.
B. I ain't that previleged enough for CCP to tell me what to do.
C. You also failed to notice the other flag under my avitar.

why has democracy failed ? western democracies in America and Europe are more preferrable to any other system
 
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China should not interfere in Indian affairs: IAF

day after China objected to Prime Minister's visit in Arunachal Pradesh, Vice Chief of the Indian Air Force Air Marshal PK Barbora said that Beijing should not interfere in Indian affairs. However, Barbora downplayed Beijing's comment's on Prime Minister's visit to Arunachal Pradesh.

Hindustan Times : Audio Video
Look who is talking ???????
 
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Ridiculous.
India invaded China in 1950s and robbed south Tibet to establish the so-called "Arunachal Pradesh", it is totally illegal. This is China's internal affair, not India's!
India should return South Tibet To China, and return Kashmir to Pakistan!



Thank you, my Pakistan friend.

China and Pakistan unite together, fight against with any evil invaders!


But Evil china never helped Pakistan in its 4 wars against India. Infact, watched Pakistan getting partitioned with inner joy and happiness. India and Pakistna are same people. We shall unit once again and there is no scope of Third paty intervantion.
 
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But Evil china never helped Pakistan in its 4 wars against India. Infact, watched Pakistan getting partitioned with inner joy and happiness. India and Pakistna are same people. We shall unit once again and there is no scope of Third paty intervantion.
I do respect your perspective except of china is our foe/evil. Before proceeding ahead for unity of Pakistan and India( which may probably be beneficial for both countries). We should consider certain things.
1. First of all the fate of kashmir should be decided by holding plebescite which is the major reason for enmity of two countries.
2. Indian agencies (espacially RAW) should terminate funding all terrorists in Pakistan by using soil of Afghanistan
3. Indian elements should stop interfering in our internal matters and move out of Balochistan.
4. Indian politicians (Espacially BJP members)should end accusing pakistan of any unwanted event that happens in India.
And by the way if china is evil why did Indian P.M modi visited china recently???
 
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But Evil china never helped Pakistan in its 4 wars against India. Infact, watched Pakistan getting partitioned with inner joy and happiness. India and Pakistna are same people. We shall unit once again and there is no scope of Third paty intervantion.
Rediculous
You should know that it's India not China who invades Pakistan!!
Pakistan is China's best friend, and we will do anything we could to help our friend againt invasion!

Look who is talking ???????
Just like India should return Kashmir to Pakistan, India should also return south tibet to China. India should also allow Assam state to become independent!
 
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Rediculous, you prove again that you know nothing with history. All above only exist in your imagination. In ancient times India is splited into many small states!

Please get out from Sikkim, return Kashmir back to Pakistan, return north lands back to Nepal, return West Bangladesh to Bangladesh! And never interfere into Bhutan's internal affairs!

It's time to split India to many pieces again.

Sikkim, Nepal or Bhutan I know. What is West Bangladesh ?
 
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