China should be stopped from building N-reactors for Pak'

[Von Hölle]

So is the U.S. I don't see any American soldiers breaking into Israelis research facilities looking for the 100 or so nuclear warheads that they currently possess.

Both the countries you are representing are members of NSG and you are asking me ?..infact I should be asking you...if this news is in fact true, and if US wanted to turn a blind eye to this, what was China doing, sitting in NSG? should not they have questioned it?

 

[ganja]

So there are only 2 operational nuclear power plants in pakistan

 

[mjnaushad]

so guys,About 1 year or so china said the'll build a nuclear plant in pakistan,are they building it..?
if yes can any one give me a proof..

http://www.defence.pk/forums/econom...-talks-export-pakistan-bigger-nuke-plant.html

 

[somebozo]

The Chinese keep saying we will build we will build and keep the NSG engaged while in the background Pakistani scientest are being trained..and Chinese expertise and blueprint being transferred..At the last moment in a classic twist of events CHina will withdraw and shock the world, make uncle SAM happy and two years on the Pakistanis will launch the reactors. And china will claim..wasnt me..they did it themselves

So everyone end up happy and only Pak-China know behind the scene story..Thats the "secret" to our strong friendship. Nobody knows what is happening between the two.

 

[blufmaster]

Originally Posted by ganja
i study before i post,i wanna know it from a Pakistani source,because for all Pakistani members here a Pakistani new source is ultimate reliable source Na..so..

ohhhhhhhhhh.....m shocked.
your r the Washington time`s editor na........


read this..it is for all Indian dude`s which have.....problem,that Pakistan getting two nuclear plants.they don't know what Pakistan already producing.
please read it before commenting...........

Weapons Stockpile

The uranium enrichment facility that produces most of Pakistan's weapons material )(highly enriched uranium or HEU) is the gas centrifuge plant at KRL (A.Q. Khan Research Laboratories) at Kahuta, 50 km Islamabad. This facility, which employs 7,000 people including 2,000 scientists and researchers, began operating in the early 1980s, but suffered serious start up problems. A.Q. Khan announced that Kahuta was producing low enriched uranium in 1984. US intelligence believes that uranium enrichment exceeded 5% in 1985, and that production of highly enriched uranium was achieved in 1986. Kahuta has run essentially non-stop at enriching uranium since that time (though with varying numbers of gas centrifuges). At start-up Pakistan had reportedly manufactured 14000 centrifuges, but had only 1000 operating. By 1991 about 3000 machines were operating according to US intelligence. This implies a production capacity of 45-100 kg U-235/year depending on the tails concentration and production efficiency, enough for 3-7 implosion weapons. Shahryar Khan has said that the cost of Kahuta was relatively modest, less than $150 million[Albright and Hibbs 1992].

U.S. and former Pakistani government officials have said on many occasions that Pakistan voluntarily halted production of HEU at Kahuta in 1991. But instead of shutting down the plant, Pakistan simply reconfigured their enrichment cascade to produce low enriched uranium (LEU), thus continuing to perform the same amount of separative work. Since the production of this "middle product" between natural and highly enriched uranium requires most of the separative work required to produce HEU, this in effect stockpiled separative work units (SWUs) that Pakistan could recoup with comparatively little additional effort at a later time to produce HEU without loss in cumulative production in the end. Pakistan is known to have resumed HEU production no later than 1998 after the nuclear tests conducted that year (and possibly well before), thus the production of HEU forgone between 1991 and 1998 has been made up by now (probably before the end of 1999), and the effect is as if HEU production never halted.

Pakistan has built a second enrichment plant at Golra, 6 miles from Islamabad. It is expected to be even larger than Kahuta, with more advanced centrifuges. It may not yet have begun production though due to difficulty in obtaining the necessary parts now. In March 1996 the New York Times reported that China had sold Pakistan 5000 ring magnets suitable for use in gas centrifuges.

It is estimated that Pakistan produced about 210 kg (range 160 - 260 kg) of HEU up to the moratorium in 1991 [Albright and O'Neill 1998]. The current production capacity of Pakistan is approximately 110 kg per year (range 80 - 140 kg/year), and the cumulative production of HEU (less the HEU expended in the 1998 tests) is estimated at about 800 kg at the end of 2000 (range 665 - 940 kg) [Albright 2000]. Since a uranium weapon requires about 15 kg this equates to a potential for 53 weapons (range 44 - 62), although somewhat more than 15 kg may be used to produce more powerful and efficient weapons.

In April 1998 the unsafeguarded Kushab reactor began operating. This reactor is a heavy water-natural uranium reactor built with Chinese assistance and has an operating power of 50-70 MW. This reactor should be able to produce around 10-15 kg of plutonium a year at a 60-80% load factor (the fraction of the time the reactor actually operates) [Albright 1998b]. Through the end of 2000 approximately 10-28 kg is estimated to have been separated from the fuel, a figure that is strongly affected by how quickly the fuel is processed after irradiation, and the effectiveness of the separation plant. Pakistan has a pilot plutonium reprocessing plant called "New Labs" at the Pakistan Institute of Scientific and Technical Research (Pinstech) complex near Rawalpindi. Reportedly the New Labs facility was expanded during the 90s to handle the full fuel load from Kushab. CBS News reported on 16 March 2000 that US intelligence had found evidence (such as krypton-86 emissions) that Pakistan is reprocessing irradiated fuel from the Khushab reactor and recovering separated plutonium [Albright 2000]. Fission weapons require 4-6 kg of plutonium, so 2-7 weapons could have been manufactured from this material.

In addition to Kushab, Pakistan is also manufacturing reactor-grade graphite and has its own heavy water plant both of which may be used to build additional plutonium production reactors fueled with natural uranium. It currently possesses two power reactors - the Karachi Nuclear Power Plant (KANUPP) with an output of 137 MW electrical, and the Chasma Nuclear Power Plant (CHASNUPP) with an output of 300 MWe. CHASNUPP is a pressurized water reactor constructed by the China National Nuclear Corporation was completed in late 1995. CHASNUPP began operations in November 1999 and was connected to the power grid (run by the Karachi Electric Supply Company) on 14 June 2000. These reactors have produced 600 kg of plutonium in their spent fuel but this plutonium remains unseparated and under IAEA safeguards.

The Kushab reactor could also be used to produce tritium for boosted weapons. The production capacity for tritium would be on the order of 100 g per year if enriched uranium is used as fuel, enough to boost perhaps 20 weapons. Pakistan is known to be interested in tritium, having acquired a tritium purification and production facility, and 0.8 grams of pure tritium gas from West Germany in 1987, as well as even larger quantities of tritium from China.

According to A. Q. Khan, as well as other Pakistani scientists, the devices tested in 1998 were most of all boosted weapon designs. Pakistan has not tested a true staged thermonuclear device. This implies that Pakistan can built pure fission or boosted fission devices with yields ranging from sub-kiloton up to perhaps 100 kt. Higher yields are possible, but suffer from the delivery weight limits of its existing missiles and probable limits to Pakistani miniaturization technology. China has provided a complete tested designs for a 25 kt pure fission weapon.


Pakistan's Nuclear Weapons Program - Present Capabilities

 

[ganja]

http://www.defence.pk/forums/econom...-talks-export-pakistan-bigger-nuke-plant.html

how much will u talk,will u talk for another 20years and after that u'll start building?

 

[ganja]

The Chinese keep saying we will build we will build and keep the NSG engaged while in the background Pakistani scientest are being trained..and Chinese expertise and blueprint being transferred..At the last moment in a classic twist of events CHina will withdraw and shock the world, make uncle SAM happy and two years on the Pakistanis will launch the reactors. And china will claim..wasnt me..they did it themselves

So everyone end up happy and only Pak-China know behind the scene story..Thats the "secret" to our strong friendship. Nobody knows what is happening between the two.

This is wat the same thing A.Q.Khan did,and got busted
this is why they call him a rouge(see my first post in the thread,i have underlined it)and this is how he proliferated nuke to N.korea
are chineese training u from 10 years to build one reactor huh?

 

[Frankenstein]

This is wat the same thing A.Q.Khan did,and got busted
this is why they call him a rouge(see my first post in the thread,i have underlined it)and this is how he proliferated nuke to N.korea
are chineese training u from 10 years to build one reactor huh?

there is a phrase in Urdu, "Allah mian ganje ko nakun na dee"!!

 

[ganja]

there is a phrase in Urdu, "Allah mian ganje ko nakun na dee"!!

u r not able to answer my question,instead making jokes in infrustration..
i can understand buddy

 

[mjnaushad]

how much will u talk,will u talk for another 20years and after that u'll start building?

too much trolling effects monkey minds.....i guess that what just happend to you....

First two completed...2nd two contract signed and few days back the picture of the work was released from google earth....Which we were discussing about more than one cooling towers and stuff and how they are different from first 2...i'll try to search the post ......

teh new one 1 GW talks are under way.....so the world is all shouting about these two power plant on which work is already underway and more half of structure already build...so next time please think before you type...i know its hard for you but please try.....

BTW did you find the guy who forgot to put fuel in prithvi 2......

 

[mjnaushad]

u r not able to answer my question,instead making jokes in infrustration..
i can understand buddy

Another research also said when monkey minds get out of control they use too many emoticons......

Keep it to limit otherwise i think you'll soon get a ticket of BAN-Istan.

 

[ganja]

do u know wat is pakistan ranked 1st..
google has answered it..

 

[ganja]

where the is ur source in post 56

 

[Tuahaa]

do u know wat is pakistan ranked 1st..
google has answered it..

Troll on, but in the foreseeable future I see having electricity in Karachi for more than just 10 hours a day.

I guess being a ganja you don't feel the need for a fan... no insulation on your head so your body keeps cool... can't say the same for your temperament

 

[mjnaushad]

where the is ur source in post 56

If you stop trolling and read then



about contract signed is on ths thread which i already posted but you were so busy trolling that you didn't read it.....

About work being done and the pictures ....I have to scan teh whole forum to find that thread....still i'll ask some members to help me in this task...

rest is also written in the link i already provided...

http://www.defence.pk/forums/econom...-talks-export-pakistan-bigger-nuke-plant.html