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Ahead Of BRICS Summit, China Says India Should Learn From Doklam Standoff
India and China on Monday ended their standoff in Doklam, just days before Prime Minister Narendra Modi's visit to China to attend the BRICS summit
All India | Press Trust of India | Updated: August 30, 2017 12:51 IST

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The External Affairs Ministry hasn't commented on the Chinese foreign minister's remarks.

BEIJING: Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi today said the 73-day standoff between India and China in Doklam ended after India withdrew its troops and asked New Delhi to "learn lessons" and prevent such incidents in future.

India and China on Monday ended their standoff in Doklam by withdrawing their troops from the area, just days before Prime Minister Narendra Modi's visit to China to attend the BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa) summit next week.


"The border face off caused by Indian trespassing has been settled," Wang told the media, while answering a question from the Chinese media reports that India withdrew troops to provide a face saver for China after reaching a settlement. Media may have carried speculation and reports but as per the "authoritative information" with the Chinese government, Indian troops have withdrawn from the area on the afternoon of August 28, which "brought the faceoff to an end", he said.

"That is a basic fact and of course, we hope that the Indian side will learn lessons from this incident and prevent similar things from happening again," he said.

In New Delhi, the External Affairs Ministry did not immediately comment on the Chinese foreign minister's remarks. Troops of the two countries had been locked in a standoff in Doklam since June 16 after Indian troops stopped the Chinese Army from building a road in the strategically key Doklam region, a disputed area between China and Bhutan.


The Indian Army had blocked the construction of the road as it could give China a major military advantage over India at the Bhutan-China-India trijunction. About the differences between the two countries, Wang who was addressing a press conference about the BRICS summit to be held in Xiamen city next week said, "India and China are two big countries. It is natural that there are some problems in our interactions."

"What is important is that we put these differences at appropriate place and under the principle of mutual respect and following the consensus of our leaders, we need to handle and manage them properly," he said.

"In the meantime, with our engagement through different mechanisms we need to work out a solution in the long run," he said.
He also evaded a direct reply to whether there will be meeting between PM Modi and President Xi Jinping. There will be bilateral meetings and interactions between the participating leaders which is natural practice, he said.

India yesterday announced that PM Modi will take part in the Xiamen summit. "On the sidelines of the BRICS meeting, President Xi will also have meetings with some leaders upon their request. Once relevant arrangements are decided we will let you know. The first thing is whether the leaders will have the willingness to meet. If there is willingness of the leaders participating in the meeting, as a host Chinese side will try to make it possible if our schedule programme permits," he said.

About the discord between India and China, which are important members of the BRICS, he said "we hope through the efforts of both sides we will maintain healthy and stable momentum of growth for China India relations" in the interest of Chinese and Indian people as well as meeting the aspiration of international community and neighbouring countries.

Wang said there is huge potential and space for greater cooperation between China and India and such cooperation serves the interest of the two countries. "We hope China and India will join hands and work together for rejuvenation of Asia and for the development of our region and contribute our share to greater development," he said.
The BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa) summit will be held in the southeast Chinese city of Xiamen from September 3 to 5.
 
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UPDATED : Wednesday, 30 Aug 2017, 1:33PM

“China understands the importance of creating a favourable atmosphere for the success of the summit and the all-important party congress,” said Wang Dehua, head of South Asia studies at the Shanghai Institute for International Studies.

China has pulled out all the stops with meticulous preparations for the summit and Beijing did not want it overshadowed by the border row, according to Chinese experts.

“The event – where Chinese President Xi Jinping and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi are supposed to meet – has offered a way out of this unexpectedly tense stand-off, although there are different interpretations as to which side actually compromised more,” said Yue Gang, a retired colonel in the PLA’s General Staff Department.

Harsh Pant, a professor of international relations at King’s College London, also said the pull-out of Indian troops was “absolutely” in response to the upcoming BRICS summit.

“China needed this to be resolved [ahead of BRICS],” he said by phone from New Delhi. “If any country was under pressure, it was China, not India. There was no reason for India to do anything else apart from holding on and digging in at the border, as India was doing.”

But Wang noted that embattled Indian leader Modi was also keen to make the summit a success because it was a key international platform for India’s growing economic cooperation with China.

Although the Chinese foreign ministry sounded triumphant announcing that the Indian troops had withdrawn, experts say it was Beijing who had compromised by seemingly accepting New Delhi’s demand that it stop road construction in the disputed area where China, India and Bhutan meet.

“Despite Beijing’s deliberate ambiguity, China has apparently made substantial concessions in order to end the dispute,” Yue said.


Since the stand-off began in mid-June, India had urged China to put a stop to road building near its Bhutan border. Beijing had meanwhile insisted that India must withdraw its troops from the area before negotiations to peacefully resolve the crisis could begin.

China said on Tuesday that the weather was a factor affecting its construction of roads and other infrastructure along the Himalayan border with India, and it would maintain patrols in the contested area. But most analysts say China appears to have quietly halted the project after weeks of intense diplomatic negotiations.

"India has got exactly what it has wanted. It was a humiliating defeat for China to cave in to pressure from India despite all the tough talk,” Yue said.

Pant also said the Indian side may have agreed to withdraw because it got what it wanted on the Doklam plateau – restoration of the status quo before China began construction along the unmarked border.

http://m.scmp.com/news/china/diplom...-learned-tense-china-india-border-row-it-will
 
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Chinese demand: Indian must withdraw before any talk.

Indian demand: Both sides must withdraw, Doklam is disputed area, and halt construction.

Outcome: Indian withdrew. Chinese troops did not.

No official words from India or China on halting construction.
 
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From more than 70 warnings to " We will teach worst lesson to india"..

Chinese are reduced to patrolling LAC.

Question is " Where is the fking Road ?"
 
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Comment of the year from another website by American guy:

It would have been worse for India than 1962. China would have considered it as a live fire exercise to test all their new impressive armaments. Then there would be no doubt in all of Asia that the dominance of the Middle Kingdom has returned.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3581492/posts
 
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China is like: "See we ran back with our bulldozers, leaving behind our dream to construct a road in Doklam and usurp the Bhutanese territory, learn from it and stop humiliating us further...please...we can't back our never-ending threats with action when facing a powerful opponent". :p:
 
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China is like: "See we ran back with our bulldozers, leaving behind our dream to construct a road in Doklam and usurp the Bhutanese territory, learn from it and stop humiliating us further...please...we can't back our never-ending threats with action when facing a powerful opponent". :p:
LOL China already said we continue to build a road in Doklam but where is Indian Army? Retreated unilaterally?
 
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'said' 'will' 'weather' 'ground situation' 'necessary changes'.....meh...I can understand the pain Chinese authorities are facing to pacify their citizens after so much hype. :lol:
LOL we are back to the same situation as just before India transgressed fearing our road except India cannot transgress anymore again after unilateral withdraw so nothing stops China from building this time. You army just gave up your position for nothing!
 
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India learnt the paper quality is too poor, though the look and feel is worldclass... :rofl: two months and gone with the wind...,
 
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Comment of the year from another website by American guy:

It would have been worse for India than 1962. China would have considered it as a live fire exercise to test all their new impressive armaments. Then there would be no doubt in all of Asia that the dominance of the Middle Kingdom has returned.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3581492/posts

you are assuming everything works in the fog of war
 
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LOL we are back to the same situation as just before India transgressed fearing our road except India cannot transgress anymore again after unilateral withdraw so nothing stops China from building this time. You army just gave up your position for nothing!

In short:

1. China and Bhutan both were patrolling the area for years.

2. China tried to push around a small country like Bhutan by changing the ground positions there by building a road.

3. India moved in to honor its friendship treaty with Bhutan and made China stop the road construction with immediate effect, and asked China to withdraw its road construction equipment, restoring status quo.

4. A military stand-off begins with hourly threats of war from China, India didn't budge from its demand, nor paid any attention to constant Chinese threats.

5. After 70 days China meekly withdraw all the road construction equipment first, followed by a mutual military deescalation, thus restoring status quo.

6. China issued face saving statements like "we will patrol the area" (sure, that's restoring status quo), and "will follow our infrastructure plan based on weather, ground situation, necessary changes, etc. etc. etc." with no specific timeline (sure, saving face is important).

7. On the ground, India has stopped Chinese illegal road construction, mutually deescalated the situation as China complied with Indian demands, and restored status quo.

Now people should learn to accept the reality, that Chinese strength is in projecting threats with shrill words, and not in its ability to follow up with real action on the ground.
Btw, Pakistan should know it better when China just sat on the fence and watched in 1965, 1971, 1987, & 1999. :)
 
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In short:

1. China and Bhutan both were patrolling the area for years.

2. China tried to push around a small country like Bhutan by changing the ground positions there by building a road.

3. India moved in to honor its friendship treaty with Bhutan and made China stop the road construction with immediate effect, and asked China to withdraw its road construction equipment, restoring status quo.

4. A military stand-off begins with hourly threats of war from China, India didn't budge from its demand, nor paid any attention to constant Chinese threats.

5. After 70 days China meekly withdraw all the road construction equipment first, followed by a mutual military deescalation, thus restoring status quo.

6. China issued face saving statements like "we will patrol the area" (sure, that's restoring status quo), and "will follow our infrastructure plan based on weather, ground situation, necessary changes, etc. etc. etc." with no specific timeline (sure, saving face is important).

7. On the ground, India has stopped Chinese illegal road construction, mutually deescalated the situation as China complied with Indian demands, and restored status quo.

Now people should learn to accept the reality, that Chinese strength is in projecting threats with shrill words, and not in its ability to follow up with real action on the ground.
Btw, Pakistan should know it better when China just sat on the fence and watched in 1965, 1971, 1987, & 1999. :)
LOL at the self-delusion. China already declared our intention to build a road. A slap in your face. What did you do? Keep retreating. Today, you delude yourself thinking China is too afraid of IA to build a road? LOL why should we fear a retreating army? :lol:
 
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LOL at the self-delusion. China already declared our intention to build a road. A slap in your face. What did you do? Keep retreating. Today, you delude yourself thinking China is too afraid of IA to build a road? LOL why should we fear a retreating army? :lol:

Don't forget to tag me when the 'weather conditions' are suitable and China restarts the road building in reality. :)
 
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