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China’s “All-Weather” Threat to India

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A recent Toby Dalton op-ed discussed the role that China may have played (and may continue to play) in Pakistan’s nuclear program. Dalton argued that, apart from the specifics of the dispute, relations between Pakistan and China need to be understood in context of growing strategic tension between China and India.

This is nothing new. China and Pakistan have seen each other as (semi-) reliable allies since the 1950s, when tensions between China and India grew over Tibet and other issues. With the increasing strategic complexity associated with growing Chinese and Indian military power, however, the relationship takes on multiple new dimensions. The Pakistan-China-India triangle (with, as Dalton notes, one antagonistic, one competitive, and one cooperative leg) is embedded within a larger set of triangular relationships, including Japan, Russia, and the United States.

Pakistan is, in an important sense, Beijing’s answer to every step India takes to expand its influence in the South China Sea. To the extent that India evinces a willingness to either support the aspirations of China’s smaller neighbors (such as Vietnam) or ally with China’s more serious antagonists (such as Japan and the United States), China can respond by increasing the size and sophistication of its arms shipments to Pakistan, as well as supporting Pakistan in various international fora.

And in the end, India has no good answer for China’s support of Pakistan; it cannot blockade Pakistan, cannot peel it away from Beijing, cannot plausibly change the regime, and cannot likely find an ally as willing and capable of irritating China as Pakistan is of India. As Anatol Lieven has argued, while the current Pakistani regime has great difficult exerting control over its own territory, it sits upon a network of social relations sufficiently robust as to not seriously fear being overthrown.

Of course, Pakistan could certainly reconsider whether it can do better than act as a Chinese bargaining chip in the Sino-Indian relationship. There are limits on the extent to which China can dial up or dial down Pakistan’s threat profile towards India; as Pakistan found in 1971, friendship with China can’t immunize it from Indian power. And although Pakistani relations with the United States are at a low point, stronger relations with Beijing seem hardly likely to improve the situation.

China may also eventually find itself constrained with respect to policy in Afghanistan. The nature of the post-withdrawal peace in Afghanistan is of great interest to both India and Pakistan, and both seem willing to devote resources to their preferred players. While China has expressed interest in Afghan resources, what it most wants is stability, which may come into conflict with Pakistani preferences.

But as other strategic triangles have shown, the balance between the cooperative and competitive legs of strategic trianges can change on short notice. Ironically, US rapprochement with China in the early 1970s may have made both less capable of aiding Pakistan, as it embedded the Indo-Pakistan relationship within the larger Cold War struggle between the US and the Soviet Union. And as India continues to build “cooperative” legs with partners such as Russia, the United States, and Japan, the utility of the triangle may become steadily more tenuous for Beijing.

China’s “All-Weather” Threat to India
 
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Pakistan should take a look at North Korea .. and make up its mind.

The good thing for Pakistan is that it has a right to choose its way, since China doesn't dominate things as it does in North Korea.

Any patriotic Pakistani would prefer a Pakistan standing on its own feet, than become a North Korea.

And China can't force things on Pakistan ... and things don't seem going that way, at all.
 
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All of India's neighbors hate India. Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Myanmar, Bhutan and Maldives are all joining China and Pakistan to take down the elephant!


INDIA
VIETNAM
TAIWAN
JAPAN
PHILIPPINES
MALAYSIA
BRUNEI
INDONESIA
BURMA
MONGOLIA
AFGANISTAN
TAJIKISTAN
KYRGYZSTAN
KAZAKHSTAN

LIST IS VERY LONG @HongWu......SHOULD I KEEP GOING..NOBODY LIKE CHINA,NOBODY
 
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All of India's neighbors hate India. Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Myanmar, Bhutan and Maldives are all joining China and Pakistan to take down the elephant!

And yet the elephant cannot be taken down, or tamed. Like a tusker in its fury, India continues to romp ahead!

Platitudes aside, out of all of India's neighbors, only Pakistan really hates her. The rest are friendly. Not counting false flagging PDFites.
 
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Pakistan has its own issues I don't think they will just lay down and be China's pawn forever.
 
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INDIA
VIETNAM
TAIWAN
JAPAN
PHILIPPINES
MALAYSIA
BRUNEI
INDONESIA
BURMA
MONGOLIA
AFGANISTAN
TAJIKISTAN
KYRGYZSTAN
KAZAKHSTAN

LIST IS VERY LONG @HongWu......SHOULD I KEEP GOING..NOBODY LIKE CHINA,NOBODY

your lists is wrong, central Asian countries hate China by having gaz and oil pipeline connected to China and not India :cool:. And vietnam don't hate China, go ask their ladies:if a vote is ever casted, all Vietnameses ladies will vote for China only the few obsessed males such @Viet, @NiceGuy which are not dominant anyway in their country will vote against China:smokin: and at leat we will get 50% of vote in our favor

as per the photo clearly illustrate how vietnamese ladies are cultivated: read chinese book at chinese style of handling...only Chinese hold the book like that..

ao_dai_wedding_dress_vietnamese.jpg
 
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All of India's neighbors hate India. Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Myanmar, Bhutan and Maldives are all joining China and Pakistan to take down the elephant!

If there is any elephant it is China. You bully around all your neighbors. India Japan South Korea Phillipines Vietnam? And you support the trouble makers Pakistan and North Korea. What is up?
 
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If there is any elephant it is China. You bully around all your neighbors. India Japan South Korea Phillipines Vietnam? And you support the trouble makers Pakistan and North Korea. What is up?

That's epic, which ever please you than name them as victim of China's bully and those which you don't like are automatically label as troublemaker...make sense :coffee:
 
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INDIA
VIETNAM
TAIWAN
JAPAN
PHILIPPINES
MALAYSIA
BRUNEI
INDONESIA
BURMA
MONGOLIA
AFGANISTAN
TAJIKISTAN
KYRGYZSTAN
KAZAKHSTAN

LIST IS VERY LONG @HongWu......SHOULD I KEEP GOING..NOBODY LIKE CHINA,NOBODY

None of which does any business with India。

All of which do huge trades with China。

Don't delude yourself。India does not even register on the radars of the above-named countries or regions while China looms。:rofl:
 
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None of which does any business with India。

All of which do huge trades with China。

Don't delude yourself。India does not even register on the radars of the above-named countries or regions while China looms。:rofl:

Even Burma, if they hate China and still allow Chinese pipeline to pass their territory? Indians are so desperate to create a fictif list to comfort themself these days :lol:

ä¸*缅天然气管道开始供气, 线路全线贯通, Sino-Burma Pipelines Start Commercial Operation, - YouTube
 
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Maze karo mera chinku yaaro

In its push for greater connectivity with ASEAN countries, India is focussing its attention on a deep-sea port in southern Myanmar that would provide a much shorter sea route to the economically vibrant Southeast Asian region and help boost trade.

The Dawei deep sea port and special economic zone is slated to give a huge boost to connectivity and trade in the Southeast Asian region when it is commissioned in a few years. The $8-billion project is being developed jointly by Myanmar and Thailand.

"The Dawei deep sea port, when complete, will provide India an alternative sea route to Southeast Asia and reduce dependency on the congested Strait of Malacca and cut transport time," an official told IANS.

The Dawei port is part of the southern corridor of the Mekong India Economic Corridor. India is concentrating on the southern economic corridor, which would connect Ho Chi Minh City in Vietnam, Phnom Penh in Cambodia, Bangkok in Thailand to Dawei in Myanmar.

"When Dawei port is ready, India is planning to connect it with Chennai. There will be no need to go through the Strait of Malacca then," said the official, unwilling to be named.

During Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's visit to Thailand last May, the Thai government invited Indian business to invest in the Dawei Special Economic Zone, especially in areas where Indian companies have expertise, such as steel, manufacturing, power, petrochemicals and services.

Thailand's construction giant Italian-Thai Development Co has been involved in construction of the deep-sea port, which is designed to accommodate ocean-going cargo ships that pass through the Indian and Pacific oceans, cutting short the maritime distance over a relatively long detour via Singapore.

The Dawei Special Economic Zone Development Co, jointly owned by Thailand and Myanmar, will be assigned to run the project.

The Greater Mekong sub-region also has a North-South corridor linking cities of the Mekong basin countries - Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar, Thailand and Vietnam - to China. But India is not keen to join this. "That corridor cuts across to China and India is not very keen to join it," said the official.

India is involved in the 1,400-km Trilateral Highway, linking India, Myanmar and Thailand, that is slated to become a reality by 2016.

The highway - from Moreh in Manipur to Mae Sot in Thailand via Myanmar - would open up India's landlocked northeast to Southeast Asia. The project is being funded by the Asian Development Bank.

The highway is expected to allow freight and container trucks to move across the borders from India to Myanmar and Thailand and play a crucial role in boosting trade and investment in the three countries.

The Kalewa-Yargi section of the highway in Myanmar, which India has offered to upgrade, is facing some problems due to the hilly terrain, said the source.

"The major chunk of the Trilateral Highway has been completed. On the Kalewa-Yargi section and upgradation and repairing of 71 bridges, which India had agreed to undertake during Manmohan Singh's visit to Myanmar in May 2012, work is on," the official added.

India and the 10-nation ASEAN countries of Brunei, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Myanmar, the Philippines, Singapore, Thailand and Vietnam have a combined population of 1.8 billion, which is one-fourth of the global numbers. The combined GDP of India and the regional bloc is around $3 trillion.

Among other connectivity projects with the bloc, India is also helping Myanmar upgrade the 160 km Tamu-Kalewa-Kalemyo road, repairing 71 old bridges in Myanmar, besides building the Kaladan multi-modal transit transport project.

The Kaladan project, expected to be completed in 2014, will connect Kolkata port with Sittwe port in Myanmar by sea and also link Sittwe to Mizoram via river and road transport.

India to link with Myanmar port to boost ASEAN connectivity - The New Indian Express
 
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All of India's neighbors hate India. Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Myanmar, Bhutan and Maldives are all joining China and Pakistan to take down the elephant!

wake up kid, its school time . you are getting late.
 
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Many of those were once part of India.

I consider India's organization of state is a much weaker form, politically and culturally.

All of India's neighbors hate India. Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Myanmar, Bhutan and Maldives are all joining China and Pakistan to take down the elephant!
 
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And yet the elephant cannot be taken down, or tamed. Like a tusker in its fury, India continues to romp ahead!

Platitudes aside, out of all of India's neighbors, only Pakistan really hates her. The rest are friendly. Not counting false flagging PDFites.

Yes, all the B'deshi and Lankan members are all Pakistani. Completely logical.
 
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