China, Russia block U.N. council concern about Myanmar violence (against Rohingya Muslims)

[HannibalBarca]

Love How everyone on each side send their balls...
The Chinese, saying it's bc of politics and religion has nothing to do in it...
others think that bc China is an "ally" then they should be on your side
And others think that those gov (RU&CN) are in anyway "role" models in Human rights...

In the End no one is your friends, they may say your name and praise you in each sentences you may want to hear, but in the End if you are of NO use to them anymore, they will throw you... simple as that. (Speakingof Gov)

Don't wait for your "allies" to side with you, when for them you are only " A good investment"...

ANd Yes the UN is useless... power and influence prevail upon Humanity and rights.

Anyway, Last word... If INNOCENTS are OPPRESSED by any regime around the world, you have to condemn it... Period, and if you don't, then... I can't do anything about it, Just that you need to remember that the Wheel always turn... always.

 

[EndangeredSpecies]

both russia and china consider human right issue should not be discussed in UN Security Council, other UN organization should handle this. period.

Meaning, no discussion of Kashmiri in UNSC? Interesting.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Radical Islamic is a threat to global. Do you not agree? We are talking about radical Islam not Islam.

there is no such thing as Radical Islam .. as i mentioned in my previous post its either Islam or not Islam ..the term Radical Islam is very common and famous in west, that is what they use to drive their People against Muslim in General, if China wants to do that too than there is no one to say otherwise ,

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

Union? Only if it suits your need. Muslims kill other Muslims more than Americans do.

Your point is?

 

[Jlaw]

Your point is?

My point is i see this stuff being posted all the time. Anytime a Muslim is alleged to be mistreated , all others call for a united jihad . Let's give it a rest. If you want to help these people why don't any Muslim nation accept them?

 

[Beast]

there is no such thing as Radical Islam .. as i mentioned in my previous post its either Islam or not Islam ..the term Radical Islam is very common and famous in west, that is what they use to drive their People against Muslim in General, if China wants to do that too than there is no one to say otherwise ,

Who told you there are no radical islam? I think you are just delusion. ISIS and Al Qaeda are radical islam and so as other sect of islam that advocate violence to settle something.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Who told you there are no radical islam? I think you are just delusion. ISIS and Al Qaeda are radical islam and so as other sect of islam that advocate violence to settle something.

No one told me , i am a Muslim myself and i know there is no such thing as Radical Islam, ISIS and AQ Manipulate the Verses of Quran as they are open to any Interpretation.. and misquoting Verses from Quran makes you out of the circle of Islam ..Feel free to learn something

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

The issue here is perceptions. The activists who watch the events in Rakine state, see this as oppression of a Muslim people. The Russian and Chinese diplomatic missions see separatism, which touches a nerve due to their own experiences.
The answer is to bring everyone to a regional conference where views can be heard and exchanged and agreements put in place. Shouting from afar or declaring nations anti-Muslim , or calling those who want the violence stopped terrorist sympathisers, is not going to help.

I like your moderated view and show understand regarding China and Russia, if China gave Western a free hand to meddle Myanmar internal affaire, next They will do the same with China's Tibet and Xinjiang. and what about Pakistan, they can use the same pretext to meddling into Baloch affaire, so don't fall into western trap. China by no mean to be anti-muslim nation, we support Syria by veto against US's sanction which happen to be a muslim nation too.

But I agree with all that abusing and persecuting Rohingya Muslims or any other religious factions are not acceptable, as @waz said bring all relevant actors of the region to find a solution is the best way to go than just finger pointing each other.

 

[idune]

The issue here is perceptions. The activists who watch the events in Rakine state, see this as oppression of a Muslim people. The Russian and Chinese diplomatic missions see separatism, which touches a nerve due to their own experiences.
The answer is to bring everyone to a regional conference where views can be heard and exchanged and agreements put in place. Shouting from afar or declaring nations anti-Muslim , or calling those who want the violence stopped terrorist sympathisers, is not going to help.

You must be ill informed because Rohingas NEVER asked for independence and no such issue of "separatism", only thing they asked is recognized them as Myanmar citizen. These people are living there for close to 1000 years. But Myanmar does not recognize them a mere citizen and continuously committing genocide.

"Regional conference" Malaysia & Indonesia as part of ASAEN block tried multiple time and failed. Even Philippine as Christian majority country seeing such brutality wanted to shelter victim of Myanmar prosecution.

Chinese vote will now only encourage Myanmar resolve for more killing.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-myanmar-rohingya-malaysia-idUSKBN1530QX

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-myanmar-rohingya-asean-malaysia-idUSKBN1480E1

http://www.thenational.ae/world/sou...mass-killings-of-rohingya-by-myanmar-military

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

You must be ill informed because Rohingas NEVER asked for independence and no such issue of "separatism", only thing they asked is recognized them as Myanmar citizen. These people are living there for close to 1000 years. But Myanmar does not recognize them a mere citizen and continuously committing genocide.

"Regional conference" Malaysia & Indonesia as part of ASAEN block tried multiple time and failed. Even Philippine as Christine majority country seeing such brutality wanted to shelter victim of Myanmar prosecution.

Chinese vote will now only encourage Myanmar resolve for more killing.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-myanmar-rohingya-malaysia-idUSKBN1530QX

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-myanmar-rohingya-asean-malaysia-idUSKBN1480E1

http://www.thenational.ae/world/sou...mass-killings-of-rohingya-by-myanmar-military

is there any motive why Myanmar don't want to recognize Rohingas as their citizen?

 

[idune]

I like your moderated view and show understand regarding China and Russia, if China gave Western a free hand to meddle Myanmar internal affaire, next They will do the same with China's Tibet and Xinjiang.

If China is so concern about western intervention then why China did not intervene itself (with significant leverage over Myanmar regime) to stop Myanmar genocide???? Yet not even statement of criticism from Chinese. Trying to hide own (Chinese) tacit support for Myanmar actions, behind western intervention phobia, is just a convenient Chinese excuse. Everyone can see through that.

 

[waz]

You must be ill informed because Rohingas NEVER asked for independence and no such issue of "separatism", only thing they asked is recognized them as Myanmar citizen. These people are living there for close to 1000 years. But Myanmar does not recognize them a mere citizen and continuously committing genocide.

"Regional conference" Malaysia & Indonesia as part of ASAEN block tried multiple time and failed. Even Philippine as Christian majority country seeing such brutality wanted to shelter victim of Myanmar prosecution.

Chinese vote will now only encourage Myanmar resolve for more killing.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-myanmar-rohingya-malaysia-idUSKBN1530QX

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-myanmar-rohingya-asean-malaysia-idUSKBN1480E1

http://www.thenational.ae/world/sou...mass-killings-of-rohingya-by-myanmar-military

No, I'm not "misinformed", you need to read my post properly.
As for the regional conferences did they invite China or Russia?
Also I had to edit your previous post. Please exercise some self restraint.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

If China is so concern about western intervention then why China did not intervene itself (with significant leverage over Myanmar regime) to stop Myanmar genocide???? Yet not even statement of criticism from Chinese. Trying to hide own (Chinese) tacit support for Myanmar actions, behind western intervention phobia, is just a convenient Chinese excuse. Everyone can see through that.

Pure Bhuddist terrorist mentality and racism. You dont even know the background and details you came to argue Chinese position based on BS? Sheesh!!!!

Man you can not take every such as " you're not with me mean you're against me". China didn't approve western intervention doesn't mean China support Myanmar's action against Rohingas and it certainly doesn't mean that we're against Muslim or Bangladesh.

 

[Hassan Guy]

They shouldn't get attacked if they are muslim or not.

If they where jews no one on here would care.

Is that why you are selling JF17 to Myanmar?

Im guessing their air force needs a fighter that works, maybe thats why the tejas wasn't ordered.

 

[idune]

No, I'm not "misinformed", you need to read my post properly.
As for the regional conferences did they invite China or Russia?
Also I had to edit your previous post. Please exercise some self restraint.

if you were not "misinfomed" then why you speculating " Chinese diplomatic missions see separatism"? - which is not the real reason.
I have not said anything but pointing the fact he is arguing without knowing facts and I have done it with constrain. But I can see your motivation why you want to edit.

China didn't approve western intervention doesn't mean China support Myanmar's action against Rohingas and it certainly doesn't mean that we're against Muslim or Bangladesh.

Seeing Chinese comments (from racist one to asking for ethnic cleansing) in this thread and Chinese action, that statement should be taken with lots of grains of salt.