China, Russia back India on UN terror resolution targeting Pakistan!

[That Guy]

First of all there is no Indian aggression, secondly Pakistan is nothing more than a proxy to China, forget the term ally. Tell me one thing, one side Pakistan receives weapons, aids from US, Pakistan needs to discuss its foreign policy with the US, do you think, China would ignore all these happenings?

Why did China remain silent when Americans were sending drones? Was there no intel share from China regarding US? I am sure, there was none. Because they are aware that Pakistan is still influenced by US.

China plays its foreign policy very well, on the basis of interest. And it is not in interest of China to go against US when it's about Pakistan. Where as China always comes up with the good will statement, when India objects NATO proposal at UNSC. Has Pakistan ever dared to object any NATO proposal?

First off, no Indian aggression? India's need to gain regional hegemony and weaken Pakistan is aggression by definition, I'm not even going to mention India's border violations.

Next, Pakistan is not China's proxy, if it was, the US wouldn't do business with it. Pakistan has its own foreign policy independent of China, though it id obvious that China is extremely important for Pakistan's future.

China remain silent over the drone issue? First off all, it's pretty much acknowledged that the drone war occurs because Pakistan secretly allows it. Secondly, whenever a strike has occurred, China has always sided with Pakistan's official narrative, and issued statements that accuse the US of violating international law. Though nothing is done, because, again, Pakistani support for the US program is still secretly there. These drones are not hard to take down, Pakistan could easily do it, but it doesn't for obvious reasons.

Why would Pakistan go against a NATO proposal when NATO is a strategic ally, and none of its proposals go against Pakistani interests, at least not too much. Pakistan has no reason to go against NATO. Your logic is like saying, why don't you eat oranges? Everyone else does, why don't you? The answer is simple, you may not like or have oranges.

By the way, I appreciate you remaining polite. God knows I've been running into shit posts lately.

A

Religiously close, not culturally close. Believe me I have met Arab immigrants here in Norway from almost all parts of Middle East. We and them have NOTHING in common. Our IQ and intelligence levels are way above them!

Apparently not, considering you statement.

[Edit]: @Norwegian that wasn't a compliment.

 

[DotHeadHunter]

Your stats would have been a matter of concern if it was not based on a bunch of lies and your wild imagination. It would be a miracle that a country with 80% and thousands dying everyday is one of the world's largest economy and has an infrastructure 20 times better and bigger in size than Pakistan.

I am glad that you pulled up this topic of "economic inferiority of India" because it is directly related to this topic. You see kid, all modern progressive countries in the world build international relations on their respective markets and economy. There are countries which are buried in dogma and ancient ideologies but I am very sure that you being a Pakistani would have never heard of any such country

Indian economy, infrastructure, industry, market is at least 50 years ahead of Pakistan. When countries like US, China, Russia and EU look at India they see a vast market and potential for investment which they are ALREADY DOING. The amount of FDI in India would almost be the same size as entire Pakistani GDP. Saudi Arabia as the keeper of the Islamic faith has better political relations with "Hindu India" than it has with "Muslim Pakistan". That is because India can offer much more to SA in terms of economic benefits. When was the last time the Arabs supported you over India in Kashmir? Why is Iran more interested in India than Pakistan?

You may rant, abuse and invent all sorts of imaginary stuff. FACT is your country is getting bombed by USA not India. Foreign teams are scared to play in Pakistan not an "open defecation" country like India. Foreign companies are willing to invest in India where "thousands die everyday of hunger" and not in Pakistan where everyone has milk, honey and chicken biryani for lunch and dinner.

History keeps changing constantly. Nobody is living in the medieval ages today except countries who live on US charity. But you will not understand it for obvious reasons. And the Pakistanis in your country who understand it will be silenced one way or other. Keep living your lies while the rest of the world walks hand in hand into 21st century.

Today China is supporting India, even though it is indirect support. China wants Indian presence in Shangai co-operation even though India has "thousands dying everyday and 80% defecating in open", you know why? Because India is an economic powerhouse with whom everybody wants to be associated it. It is called REALPOLITIK.

Economic power my my A$$ Are you one of those bhartis who believe india will be a superpower in 2020?
You got a bigger economy so what ,you have a population of more than one billion . Which simply means you have a bigger labour force .More than 70% of your population is dirt poor .You got few people and few industries to brag about .India is not what you represent in Bollywood son .
People want to invest in india people over there they get a cheap labour .They see you as hiring slaves to get the job done.After all who knows slavery better than you ,you people mastered this art for almost 1000 years under the muslim rule Just compare your living standards (dressing,housing,rape situation,hygiene etc ) with an average Pakistani and you will realize your real aukaat .
The whole world knows US aid is the aid for us interests in Afghanistan for NATO etc but you people really survive on a charity from UK. How ironic where basic necessities of life called like toilets are not available is calling herself 50 years ahead
Your sincerely
Civilization

 

[Indian Patriot]

Economic power my my A$$ Are you one of those bhartis who believe india will be a superpower in 2020?
You got a bigger economy so what ,you have a population of more than one billion . Which simply means you have a bigger labour force .More than 70% of your population is dirt poor .You got few people and few industries to brag about .India is not what you represent in Bollywood son .
People want to invest in india people over there they get a cheap labour .They see you as hiring slaves to get the job done.After all who knows slavery better than you ,you people mastered this art for almost 1000 years under the muslim rule Just compare your living standards (dressing,housing,rape situation,hygiene etc ) with an average Pakistani and you will realize your real aukaat .
The whole world knows US aid is the aid for us interests in Afghanistan for NATO etc but you people really survive on a charity from UK. How ironic where basic necessities of life called like toilets are not available is calling herself 50 years ahead
Your sincerely
Civilization

Sorry, not interested in your ***. You might want to try that out in Afghanistan.

I am one of those sane educated people who know that India is one of the largest economies in the world in terms of PPP and nominal GDP, India has one of the fastest growth rates and one of the largest markets.

We have a bigger GDP, GDP-PPP and the per capita income of India is higher than that of Pakistan. Economy is measured on the strength of labor force. Labor force is again divided in skilled and unskilled labor force and in both counts India is ten times bigger than Pakistan. Indian labor force would be twice the size of entire Pakistan population. That is how small you are.

Funny you say more than 70% population of India is "dirt poor". Because the foreign MNCs investing in India don't seem to share your views "son". India has Bollywood and "few industries", what does Pakistan have other than terrorists hiding in your country?

I don't mind what the west sees India as, maybe they see us as slaves like you say. But seen as slaves is better than seen as terrorists. While the west invests money in India the same west sends in drones to bomb Pakistanis. The west sees China as a slave too, that's why they have invested in China. You can keep your Pakistani false pride with you the next time you go around with your begging bowl.

 

[Screambowl]

First off, no Indian aggression? India's need to gain regional hegemony and weaken Pakistan is aggression by definition, I'm not even going to mention India's border violations.

Next, Pakistan is not China's proxy, if it was, the US wouldn't do business with it. Pakistan has its own foreign policy independent of China, though it id obvious that China is extremely important for Pakistan's future.

China remain silent over the drone issue? First off all, it's pretty much acknowledged that the drone war occurs because Pakistan secretly allows it. Secondly, whenever a strike has occurred, China has always sided with Pakistan's official narrative, and issued statements that accuse the US of violating international law. Though nothing is done, because, again, Pakistani support for the US program is still secretly there. These drones are not hard to take down, Pakistan could easily do it, but it doesn't for obvious reasons.

Why would Pakistan go against a NATO proposal when NATO is a strategic ally, and none of its proposals go against Pakistani interests, at least not too much. Pakistan has no reason to go against NATO. Your logic is like saying, why don't you eat oranges? Everyone else does, why don't you? The answer is simple, you may not like or have oranges.

By the way, I appreciate you remaining polite. God knows I've been running into shit posts lately.

A
Apparently not, considering you statement.

[Edit]: @Norwegian that wasn't a compliment.

During Kargil, China was silent, why? Even Musharraf was in Beijing that time.

What about China refrained to veto when banned was called on terrorist groups like LeT JuD. why? They are all India centric groups.

NATO, is using Pakistan for their presence in Asia, nothing more than that.

China is using Pakistan as a proxy against India, to slower our economic growth. And India is engaging them in Vietnam economically.

China is only concerned about US presence in Asia, nothing much.

 

[That Guy]

During Kargil, China was silent, why? Even Musharraf was in Beijing that time.

Kargil was a long time ago, and the entire world was silent because no one knew what the hell was going on. [Edit]: I should also add that 2008 is a prime example to counter your point. China warned India that it would back Pakistan completely in case of war, and even offered to send fighter jets to Pakistan to defend against possible Indian air attacks.

What about China refrained to veto when banned was called on terrorist groups like LeT JuD. why? They are all India centric groups.

You'll notice even Pakistan didn't have any objections to this either.

NATO, is using Pakistan for their presence in Asia, nothing more than that.

I said strategic ally, not friend. Regardless of intentions, their goals run parallel to each other, and NATO has not moved against Pakistan, nor will it. This still doesn't address my question of "why would Pakistan move against any NATO resolutions"?

China is using Pakistan as a proxy against India, to slower our economic growth. And India is engaging them in Vietnam economically.

Of course China is using Pakistan against India, but to call it a proxy is foolish. A proxy is someone who does things completely under the control of another, Pakistan does not. Pakistanis aren't stupid, they know what China wants, but are happy to oblige, because China's and Pakistan's goals regarding India are the same; contain as much as possible.

China is only concerned about US presence in Asia, nothing much.

So? This doesn't really mean anything to Pakistan, and as we've seen, Pakistan is all to happy to have the US in the region. There were reports coming out of Islamabad and Washington a while back, that suggested Pakistan was urging the US to extend it's presence in Afghanistan, because of fear that the civil war there would escalate and spill over to Pakistan's already war torn tribal area.

 

[Jit]

wake up

How Asians Rate China, India, Pakistan, Japan and the U.S. | Pew Research Center's Global Attitudes Project

Only 14% of Pakistanis view the US favorably ... in spite of all the aid and assistance for decades on, this is sad.

Interestingly only 30% of Chinese view Pakistan favorably - going by the sentiments and opinions from this forum I thought more Chinese would view Pakistan favorably than India!

 

[tarrar]

Lets see the resolution draft first. I do not think it is like how the Indian politicians and media are trying to present. From the above piece of text, I failed to see anything that is specifically going against Pakistan. Kashmir was and is disputed, and China is also a party. It does not make sense that she will support India blindfoldedly. Chinese President is coming soon; Chinese foreign minister is visiting in two days; General Raheel has just concluded a very important and fruitful visit to China. None of this is supporting Indian propaganda.

This is all Bollywood Indian media crap.

 

[dray]

Kargil was a long time ago, and the entire world was silent because no one knew what the hell was going on. [Edit]: I should also add that 2008 is a prime example to counter your point. China warned India that it would back Pakistan completely in case of war, and even offered to send fighter jets to Pakistan to defend against possible Indian air attacks.

'Backing' and 'fighting' are two different things, btw, do you have any credible link for the bold part?

 

[mujhaidind]

Religiously close, not culturally close. Believe me I have met Arab immigrants here in Norway from almost all parts of Middle East. We and them have NOTHING in common. Our IQ and intelligence levels are way above them!

Pakistanis are part-Arab. So you insulting yourself. How can you insult Arabs? Arabs invented almost everything. Arabs were the rulers. You were the ruled.

Some of you(or most) Pakistanis think that you are better than everyone. Funny thing is you claim that you ruled the sub-continent for 1000 years. When the reality is Pakistan never produced a ruler. You were always the ruled ones. Now naming your missiles after foreign invaders and claiming them as your own doesn't change the history. Arabs have contributed more to the world than Pakistanis ever will.

Arabs gave Islam to the sub-continent and civilized it. How ungrateful can you be?

@al-Hasani

 

[TimeTraveller]

A file photo of United Nations General Assembly. PHOTO: REUTERS

NEW DELHI: China and Russia decided on Monday to back the Comprehensive Convention on International Terrorism (CCIT) — a resolution supported by India and heavily biased against Pakistan.

At a meeting of Russia-India-China (RIC) in Beijing, Indian External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj said her counterparts from the two countries understood the need for endorsing the resolution that has been pending at the UN for nearly two decades and seeks to widen the existing definition of terrorism.

The CCIT was proposed by India in 1996 in lieu of Pakistan allegedly backing Kashmiri separatists.

In Tuesday’s meeting, the RIC communiqué vouched to oppose terrorism of all forms and called all countries to join efforts in combating terrorism together with the United Nations.

Speaking at a press conference after the RIC meeting, Swaraj told reporters: “Our discussions on terrorism brought consensus on two issues. Firstly, there can be no ideological, religious, political, racial or any other justification for the acts of terrorism and secondly the need to bring to justice perpetrators, organizers, financiers and sponsors of these acts of terror.”

Swaraj added that the ministers emphasized the need to step up information gathering and sharing and prevent the use of the Internet and other information and communication technologies (ICTs) for the purposes of recruitment and incitement to commit terrorist acts.
‘China, Russia back India on UN terror resolution targeting Pakistan’ – The Express Tribune

So China wasn't an 'all-weather' "friend" after all! Its time for our so-called political leaders to wake up from their slumber and smell the coffee!

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