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China risks isolation if it occupies Spratlys

Military occupation of the Spratlys would very likely be a last resort. We have the means and power to do so anytime so we can afford to play the game of patience.

I guess you need to show infinite patience as none of the countries surrounding you seem to be in any haste to just buckle down and give up claims on their portion of SCS which they are entitled to as per UNCLOS .

If it were about means and power to occupy with force what is stopping you from doing so ??? perhaps international isolation and condemnation for its action ???
 
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I guess you need to show infinite patience as none of the countries surrounding you seem to be in any haste to just buckle down and give up claims on their portion of SCS which they are entitled to as per UNCLOS .

If it were about means and power to occupy with force what is stopping you from doing so ??? perhaps international isolation and condemnation for its action ???

what kind of bs is this? did the menace of international isolation stop india from invading goa? sikkim? no one gives up a chunk of meat so close to his mouth for the immaterial reward of international moral approval. indians sure have taught chinese some lessons here. and as i said, once we drive viets to the south of meikong, we can put up with any amount of internationla condemnation

"international" condemnation is just all weakish viets could throw at us when they have no other weapons to substitute for their weakish military.

and indians, stop using "international" so often in your english. it is not a pronoun. or is it just anglo-saxon slavery disfigured your way of thinking and made you think every sh*tty line you uttered was automatically universal moral truth?
 
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chinese will banish viets to the south of meikong, bonzi to the south of han, and we will happily live in isolation from and the collective hatred of viets and bonzi.

like nietzsche said, hatred is but the religion of these wounded, lowly creatures when preyed upon by the master race, and chinese can see no harm in being isolated from these sheep

Your master races are Mongolia, Man and Japanese. They ruled you.

like uncle ho said, they viets ate chinese dung for thousands of years. of course, one would expect viets to possess far less subtlety than the germans.

Chinese was dung of Hunos, Mongolian, Mans Qing and Japanese.

in recent centuries, chinese military interventions in the peninsular have been due to viets' aggression against their neighbors, and china only got itself involved to right the wrongs viets committed.

still earlier on, yes, chinese invaded and occupied the place because we wanted to feed you guys our gduns[COLOR"#FF0000"][/COLOR]
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it apply for you, you are feeded with it.
 
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These islands are dispute territories by 6 countries. Each country should work out with one another to resolve the conflicts. Would Vietcong choose the path of war over peace? If Vietnamese leadership is like that of the Vietcong in this forum, they already have decided on war.

Look on this forum who guys are always threatening to go to war?

We always support the peaceful solutions, for example together go to the international court to solve the disputes. But if attacked, as usual we will fight to protect Vietnam territory.

like uncle ho said, they viets ate chinese dung for thousands of years. of course, one would expect viets to possess far less subtlety than the germans.

You are showing your uneducated.
 
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what kind of bs is this? did the menace of international isolation stop india from invading goa? sikkim? no one gives up a chunk of meat so close to his mouth for the immaterial reward of international moral approval. indians sure have taught chinese some lessons here. and as i said, once we drive viets to the south of meikong, we can put up with any amount of internationla condemnation

"international" condemnation is just all weakish viets could throw at us when they have no other weapons to substitute for their weakish military.

and indians, stop using "international" so often in your english. it is not a pronoun. or is it just anglo-saxon slavery disfigured your way of thinking and made you think every sh*tty line you uttered was automatically universal moral truth?

Do you follow history or do you just blabber ??? Sikkim chose to become part of India following a referendum on abolishing the monarchy in 1975 !

Back to the topic , Vietnam is no Goa so that you can expect a walkover without any Resistance , Goans wanted to be part of India and welcomed Indian troops unlike what you can expect now .
 
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Do you follow history or do you just blabber ??? Sikkim chose to become part of India following a referendum on abolishing the monarchy in 1975 !

Back to the topic , Vietnam is no Goa so that you can expect a walkover without any Resistance , Goans wanted to be part of India and welcomed Indian troops unlike what you can expect now .

you will gather all your intelligence in order to comprehend the comparison and the true topic here: we are talking about international criticism here. the point is, no one gives a damn.

as for viet resistance, china always calculates the extent of resistance and the benefit of invasion and occupation. historically we made them a province when the benefit outweighed the cost and a dependency when the cost outweighed the benefit. it is irrelevant to the discussion on hand: the point is, china will do the calculation - and moral consternation from indians and their white masters isn't part of the calculation.
 
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you will gather all your intelligence in order to comprehend the comparison and the true topic here: we are talking about international criticism here. the point is, no one gives a damn.

as for viet resistance, china always calculates the extent of resistance and the benefit of invasion and occupation. historically we made them a province when the benefit outweighed the cost and a dependency when the cost outweighed the benefit. it is irrelevant to the discussion on hand: the point is, china will do the calculation - and moral consternation from indians and their white masters isn't part of the calculation.

I guess the losses faaaaar outweighs the profits and cons faaaaar outweigh the pros ... thats why there is better sense prevailaing and China not doing anything ontoward yet apart from their usual diatribe of warnings warnings and some more warnings ... good luck with that :azn:
 
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you will gather all your intelligence in order to comprehend the comparison and the true topic here: we are talking about international criticism here. the point is, no one gives a damn.

as for viet resistance, china always calculates the extent of resistance and the benefit of invasion and occupation. historically we made them a province when the benefit outweighed the cost and a dependency when the cost outweighed the benefit. it is irrelevant to the discussion on hand: the point is, china will do the calculation - and moral consternation from indians and their white masters isn't part of the calculation.

We dropped dung on your face recently 1979. Don't forget it to put this data in to calculations.
 
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I guess the losses faaaaar outweighs the profits and cons faaaaar outweigh the pros ... thats why there is better sense prevailaing and China not doing anything ontoward yet apart from their usual diatribe of warnings warnings and some more warnings ... good luck with that :azn:

i implore you to muster what little indian brainpower you've got and stay on topic: china will make the calculation and decide what to do. the point is, international condemnation in the form of whining from india and its white masters doesn't matter. so don't bs us about international criticism. no country gives up anything close to its den for apprehension of "international" criticism, not even those who are often instinctively servile to their white masters when it comes to an easy target like goa.

stay on topic, indians (or viets)
 
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you will gather all your intelligence in order to comprehend the comparison and the true topic here: we are talking about international criticism here. the point is, no one gives a damn.

as for viet resistance, china always calculates the extent of resistance and the benefit of invasion and occupation. historically we made them a province when the benefit outweighed the cost and a dependency when the cost outweighed the benefit. it is irrelevant to the discussion on hand: the point is, china will do the calculation - and moral consternation from indians and their white masters isn't part of the calculation.

You can only "made them a province" when "human waves" a favorite tactic of the chinese still be effective. As you see, your tactic "human waves" no longer effect, we humiliated it in 1979...
 
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i implore you to muster what little indian brainpower you've got and stay on topic: china will make the calculation and decide what to do. the point is, international condemnation in the form of whining from india and its white masters doesn't matter. so don't bs us about international criticism. no country gives up anything close to its den for apprehension of "international" criticism, not even those who are often instinctively servile to their white masters when it comes to an easy target like goa.

stay on topic, indians (or viets)

Thats what i am saying , Chinese have sure made the calculation and as per its calculation nothing apart from setting up "issue warning regularly department" ....
As far as the bolded part , i guess it applies to all countries as per your own opinion right ? So if what you are saying is true then Viets wont "Give up " anything for sure :coffee:
 
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i implore you to muster what little indian brainpower you've got and stay on topic: china will make the calculation and decide what to do. the point is, international condemnation in the form of whining from india and its white masters doesn't matter. so don't bs us about international criticism. no country gives up anything close to its den for apprehension of "international" criticism, not even those who are often instinctively servile to their white masters when it comes to an easy target like goa.

stay on topic, indians (or viets)

China is best servant of your white master Uncle Sam, china used hug amount of reserves of China to keep it in US$ note printed by FED in USA. China is best funder for USA military activities in Middle East. China did his good job for White masters.:P
 
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Thats what i am saying , Chinese have sure made the calculation and as per its calculation nothing apart from setting up "issue warning regularly department" ....
As far as the bolded part , i guess it applies to all countries as per your own opinion right ? So if what you are saying is true then Viets wont "Give up " anything for sure :coffee:

viets can be discussed in the context of international relations strictly as objects, not subjects. again, stay on topic: we are talking about china as an actual actor in international politics and what it may do with vietnam as a chunk of meat close to its mouth. indian and anglo-saxon moral condemnation won't stop china from taking a bite.
 
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There are certainly more than a handful in the Caribbeans, Central and South America. The wars in Korea and Vietnam were all supported by her minions in the UN as well as the Iraqi and Afghanistan Wars and used the UN in name only. Through political muscling the Soviet was unable to stop them. There were so many countries against, especially, the latter two wars but, unfortunately their voices meant nothing in this 'power and rich' is everything world.

But all these are immaterial to my original argument. My argument was if a country militarily strong enough to give protections for others and rich enough to have a big market for other countries to sell their products, that country will never be isolated.

As the case in SCS who's against China aside from Vietnam and Philippines, the fanboys in this forum and the western centric medias?

what you clearly missed is this...there are several claimants in SCS.Apart from Vietnam and Philippines,there are Taiwan(you may exclude them as a breakaway part of China),Indonasia,Malaysia,Combodia,Thailand and Singapore.so theoretically,all of them are against China.And if Chinese claim are so logical,why they don't go to international court and fixes this issue just like other countries do???thats because UN doesn't recognize an "Ancient(thousand years)" claim.and China is already facing a ban on weapons by western countries.money isn't everything.see,trillions of dollars of eceony couldn't budge smaller economies like Philippines,so your logic is absurd.tell me,how many countries supported China's claim on SCS???

The super race India has a lot of white servants.

India in 2030!!!!!!!! - YouTube

post reported troll...hope MOD will take care of you.
 
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Johnson Reef clash

Vietnam and China have engaged in such armed naval skirmishes in the past years, including a deadly battle in waters near Johnson Reef and Fiery Cross Reef in 1988.

More than 70 Vietnamese troops were killed while 2 of their ships were sunk and another was heavily damaged in the skirmish.

It resulted in China gaining control of the nearby Johnson South Reef, which the Philippines calls Mabini Reef.


Dr. Richard Cronin, senior associate and director of the Henry Stimson Center's Southeast Asia Program, told the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission that the deadly outcome of the naval battle was the reason why the Philippine Navy decided to avoid a confrontation with the Chinese People's Liberation Army Navy when the latter occupied Mischief Reef in 1994.

good strategy,beat Vietnam to scare the Philippines.
 
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