China releases population census with enormous implications for the country's future

[FuturePAF]

CCP has many excellent talents and a high efficiency system, CCP has led us out of difficulties and towards success again and again. CCP has worked miracles many times, so we believe that CCP still has the ability and methods to solve the population problem.

It is expected China will use more and more automation, but some industries need human labor at competitive labor costs to stay viable. While I am not suggesting China institute a guest worker program with its BRI partner nations, it would be one solution. The other option is shifting certain industries to the BRI nations. Of the most friendly nations to China with the largest population and high growth rate of 3.5 children per woman, Pakistan could help China make up for Chinese demographic deficit (as Pakistan’s population is expect to go from 220 million to more than 400 million in the next 30 years). A developing and more prosperous Pakistan would also be the best market for more and more higher end Chinese goods, as the middle class grows.

 

[MH.Yang]

It is expected China will use more and more automation, but some industries need human labor at competitive labor costs to stay viable. While I am not suggesting China institute a guest worker program with its BRI partner nations, it would be one solution. The other option is shifting certain industries to the BRI nations. Of the most friendly nations to China with the largest population and high growth rate of 3.5 children per woman, Pakistan could help China make up for Chinese demographic deficit (as Pakistan’s population is expect to go from 220 million to more than 400 million in the next 30 years). A developing and more prosperous Pakistan would also be the best market for more and more higher end Chinese goods, as the middle class grows.

I also hope Pakistan can provide enough manpower to China.
Although Chinese are widely used, most Chinese can use English.

 

[Maula Jatt]

It is expected China will use more and more automation, but some industries need human labor at competitive labor costs to stay viable. While I am not suggesting China institute a guest worker program with its BRI partner nations, it would be one solution. The other option is shifting certain industries to the BRI nations. Of the most friendly nations to China with the largest population and high growth rate of 3.5 children per woman, Pakistan could help China make up for Chinese demographic deficit (as Pakistan’s population is expect to go from 220 million to more than 400 million in the next 30 years). A developing and more prosperous Pakistan would also be the best market for more and more higher end Chinese goods, as the middle class grows.

Can we get CCP in there so Pak people stop having babies

Quality of life will decrease with 400 million (I don't think we'll get Thier tbvh- we'll stagnate at around 300 million ish)

 

[FuturePAF]

Can we get CCP in there so Pak people stop having babies

Quality of life will decrease with 400 million (I don't think we'll get Thier tbvh- we'll stagnate at around 300 million ish)

380 million in Pakistan by 2050 per a credible journal article; at which time Chinese population maybe down to 700 million. Pakistani quality of life need not decrease if we can jump start economic growth. If we can afford to build the right kinds of dams, we can increase arable land by over 50% and through the implementation of modern agriculture we could double, triple, even quadruple certain crop yields from our current levels. The higher incomes of workers in more value added industries could allow more of our people to live in better housing, afford more food, and provide proper social services. This is if we use our demographic dividend properly, otherwise, yes quality of life will drop on the way to a double of the population and get worse as the average age of the population ages further into the century. This is why the planning needs to be done NOW. A symbiotic relationship with the Chinese economy as well as the global economy needs to be planned for ASAP.

Pakistan, Population Programmes and Progress

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Forbes estimates Chinese population may half by 2100;

China’s Population To Drop By Half, Immigration Helps U.S. Labor Force

China’s population may drop by half by 2100, but U.S. labor force size can be sustained if Trump immigration policies are reversed.

www.forbes.com

but another survey indicated that China may have already reached peak population some 10-15 years ago and may have been over estimating the population by 100 million people; a paper published

China's Population Projected to Fall by Half Within 30 Years

The researchers found that having more kids is simply too expensive.

www.google.com

@MH.Yang
Does the following paper look credible? Serious question

Economic Policy Uncertainty ,Monetary Policy and Economic Growth

caod.oriprobe.com

 

[Maula Jatt]

380 million in Pakistan by 2050 per a credible journal article; at which time Chinese population maybe down to 700 million.

Pakistan, Population Programmes and Progress

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Forbes estimates Chinese population may half by 2100;

China’s Population To Drop By Half, Immigration Helps U.S. Labor Force

China’s population may drop by half by 2100, but U.S. labor force size can be sustained if Trump immigration policies are reversed.

www.forbes.com

but another survey indicated that China may have already reached peak population some 10-15 years ago and may have been over estimating the population by 100 million people; a paper published

China's Population Projected to Fall by Half Within 30 Years

The researchers found that having more kids is simply too expensive.

www.google.com

@MH.Yang
Does the following paper look credible? Serious question

Economic Policy Uncertainty ,Monetary Policy and Economic Growth

caod.oriprobe.com

Yeah by hard numbers but it's 30 years so many dynamics can and will change in that period
Besides it's not about food or land or energy
We have enough- besides food and water is the reason for overpopulation - that's the cause

I don't think we can get the jumpstart needed for 400 million people

400 mil is not joke - think of societal problems we'll encounter

Just decades ago Pak used to be so open spaced, fresh now no more of that luxury

All of this is quality of life- more people- we get less of that

So no Pak shouldn't sit idly by watching this explode 280 mark is the max Pak should go after that it's trouble

The overpopulation thread

Post everything on and related to the overpopulation crisis in Pakistan. Admins please make this a sticky thread as it's one of the most pressing issues faced by Pakistan since the 80s. Here's one I want to share:

defence.pk

 

[tower9]

Never underestimate CCP. When CCP believe it's time to boost birth rate, measures that can never be seen in western countries will be implemented.

Compared to China, US is the one should be more concerned. US birth rate doesn't look bad because Mexicans and blacks made their contributions.

So the CCP are going to force people to ****?

 

[MH.Yang]

380 million in Pakistan by 2050 per a credible journal article; at which time Chinese population maybe down to 700 million. Pakistani quality of life need not decrease if we can jump start economic growth. If we can afford to build the right kinds of dams, we can increase arable land by over 50% and through the implementation of modern agriculture we could double, triple, even quadruple certain crop yields from our current levels. The higher incomes of workers in more value added industries could allow more of our people to live in better housing, afford more food, and provide proper social services. This is if we use our demographic dividend properly, otherwise, yes quality of life will drop on the way to a double of the population and get worse as the average age of the population ages further into the century. This is why the planning needs to be done NOW. A symbiotic relationship with the Chinese economy as well as the global economy needs to be planned for ASAP.

Pakistan, Population Programmes and Progress

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Forbes estimates Chinese population may half by 2100;

China’s Population To Drop By Half, Immigration Helps U.S. Labor Force

China’s population may drop by half by 2100, but U.S. labor force size can be sustained if Trump immigration policies are reversed.

www.forbes.com

but another survey indicated that China may have already reached peak population some 10-15 years ago and may have been over estimating the population by 100 million people; a paper published

China's Population Projected to Fall by Half Within 30 Years

The researchers found that having more kids is simply too expensive.

www.google.com

@MH.Yang
Does the following paper look credible? Serious question

Economic Policy Uncertainty ,Monetary Policy and Economic Growth

caod.oriprobe.com

China's population has not yet reached its peak, but we are very close to the peak. Chinese experts estimate that China's population will reach its peak around 2025, with a peak population of about 1.46 billion. Around 2050, China's population will reach the peak of aging. At that time, China may have only 1.1 billion people, and there are 450 million retirees over the age of 60. Subsequently, China's aging problem will gradually ease, but the population will continue to decline. By 2070, China's population will reach the bottom, about 800 million.


I know that many foreigners do not believe the statistics of the Chinese government. In fact, the Chinese government's statistics are very serious and accurate. If we lack the spirit of seriousness and accuracy, we will not be able to achieve today's results. Therefore, China's demographic data are correct. At 2020, China's population is reach 1.41 billion.

 

[Mista]

China with gradual reduced population growth may be better in long run for its citizens. And a stagnation or even a slow reduction in population in long term can have a positive efeect on the quality of lives in China.

The problem is more gotta do with its composition. Aging population requires greater share of budget for pension and healthcare.

 

[zhxy]

China's population has not yet reached its peak, but we are very close to the peak. Chinese experts estimate that China's population will reach its peak around 2025, with a peak population of about 1.46 billion. Around 2050, China's population will reach the peak of aging. At that time, China may have only 1.1 billion people, and there are 450 million retirees over the age of 60. Subsequently, China's aging problem will gradually ease, but the population will continue to decline. By 2070, China's population will reach the bottom, about 800 million.

800 million, that number is still very large, it is equivalent to the United States and EU combined. If the United States and the EU can be the military-economic superpowers with a smaller population than China, so why the population decline is too serious to China. In the worst scenario here, China's population is still much larger than the United States, EU, Africa, Middle East ...

 

[kankan326]

So the CCP are going to force people to ****?

People are horny creatures. No need to be forced. Most extreme measure is banning condom products and abortion. Before that, there are many punishment and reward measures.威逼利诱.

Ban or subsidize industries that could have negative effect on birth rate(China already banned tuitoring industry). Establish non-profit babysitting orgnization..... Too many choices.

 

[MH.Yang]

So the CCP are going to force people to ****?

LOL, this policy is ridiculous. Maybe we can ban abortion or ban sale of condoms? Just kidding. Don't take it seriously.

 

[Mista]

Around 2050, China's population will reach the peak of aging. At that time, China may have only 1.1 billion people, and there are 450 million retirees over the age of 60.

That sounds very bad. 450mil/1.1bil = 40% of your population are gonna be retirees over the age of 60.

By 2070, China's population will reach the bottom, about 800 million.

It will never bottom as long as TFR can't recover to 2.1, which is very likely. Many like to mock India's population explosion, but even their TFR has fallen to around 2.1 currently and is projected to fall further as it develops.

 

[tower9]

LOL, this policy is ridiculous. Maybe we can ban abortion or ban sale of condoms? Just kidding. Don't take it seriously.

He sounded dead serious. lmao Now we're going to have Chinese concentration camps full of people just f u cking non stop with a gun to their heads.

 

[kankan326]

He sounded dead serious. lmao Now we're going to have Chinese concentration camps full of people just f u cking non stop with a gun to their heads.

Maybe some day babies can be produced outside human uterus

usa take imigrents the smartests does china take imigrents?

US future is another South Africa

 

[FuturePAF]

China's population has not yet reached its peak, but we are very close to the peak. Chinese experts estimate that China's population will reach its peak around 2025, with a peak population of about 1.46 billion. Around 2050, China's population will reach the peak of aging. At that time, China may have only 1.1 billion people, and there are 450 million retirees over the age of 60. Subsequently, China's aging problem will gradually ease, but the population will continue to decline. By 2070, China's population will reach the bottom, about 800 million.


I know that many foreigners do not believe the statistics of the Chinese government. In fact, the Chinese government's statistics are very serious and accurate. If we lack the spirit of seriousness and accuracy, we will not be able to achieve today's results. Therefore, China's demographic data are correct. At 2020, China's population is reach 1.41 billion.

What about that research paper from Xi’an University quoted by the news articles?