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AlJazeera...
Dont attack the messenger, attack the content of the news/information.

How long will they suppress muslims; look at Soviet Union - eventually it died; so will the Xi and his party maniacs who are enforcing this cultural genocide like Mao's Gang of Four.
Because Soviet Union died doesnt mean CHina will die the same way so this is false equivalence.
 
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Very good initiative!

China needs to throw out all the primitive desert traditions from Arabia or else Chinese Muslims will be stuck in a primitive stage of development forever.

Just take a look at the oil rich Arab countries. Even with all the money they never managed to build a top 100 university.
 
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money can buy you anything even love :)
And CHina's money bought it Pakistani "amnesia" about Islam in China. "Uighurs? are getting abused (SAID THE UN)?" whats that? everyone is fine! "Islam is being targetted in China?" NO WAYY!!! "Can we show you the ways CHina is abusing and harrasing its Muslim population?" NO, dont post any "propaganda" here please, they're all fase!

This Pakistani amnesia isnt unintentional.

This forum is overrun with PLA trolls to sanitise and spin facts out.
Is this before of after the Pakistani mods santisize all the "propaganda" about China and Its Anti-Islam behaviour and policies?
 
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Go ahead tell us what change do you want Muslims in China to do?


Come on... It's a report from Chinese newspaper... and even in this thread and others... Chinese members are cheering it or not finding any problem with such "laws"...

In the End, no one ask Pakistan to do anything... We all know that you guys can't do anything... as it's the case for other Muslim countries around the world and their respectively "Muslim" persecuted problems...
So... as long as the truth is out, those who can do something will and those who don't will not.

Turks genocided Greeks and Armenians after invading Anatolia. Asia Minor is occupied Eastern Greece.

Uighurs likewise genocided Mongols and Xiongnu after invading Xinjiang in the 9th century, 1000 years after Han Chinese were already in Xinjiang. Uighurs are more immigrant to Xinjiang than Han are.
 
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Excellent post.

We just need to look in our neighbourhood to see what is in store for Muslims:

1. Myanmar - Rohingya
2. India - Kashmiris and now all Indian Muslim
3. China - Uighurs


I am so hopeful that we may be able to start the process of having a united Muslim bloc that can look out for the interests of Muslims worldwide.
The following countries should form the core now:

1. Turkey - Most industrialised Muslim country and a large population
2. Iran - Decent tech, large population and massive energy reserves
3. Indonesia - Decent technology and economy and largest Muslim population
4. Malaysia - Richest non-oil Muslim country

The following 2 should join within a decade when they are free of Gulf states and China:

5. Pakistan - Strong conventional military and only Muslim nuclear power. Strategic location on the Arabian Gulf
6. BD - Fastest growing economy and large population.


If these 6 Muslim countries formed a united bloc then not only will their citizens be better off but they could do so much more for all other Muslims around the world.

That is a very meaningful suggestion. I agree with all points except one which I won't mention since that will generate long replies from "fellow self declared secular" overseas Pakistanis. I am really busy and can't go through replying them. Don't worry that has nothing to do with Bangladesh.

I became against china when a Chinese named "Beijingwalker" posted here a video of Syrian kids saying "kill our enemies" etc. Those kids were traumatized by severe suffering, war, hunger, violent deaths in the family and looked smiling ONLY because children develop "trauma dissociated states" where they are still psychologically shocked but don't show it overtly.

Meaning those Syrian kids were in deep inner unconscious psychological fear, anxiety and pain. When kids are that traumatized, they expressed their inner suffering by becoming angry and hateful. Yet that insensitive "beijingwalker" cherry picked that video to show us that "see how hate filled these muslims are, even their children like killing" rather showing sensitivity to their extreme suffering and trauma behind those statements. They were being bombed for God sake. His hatred to islam in general became exposed. If he or others cannot show empathy to those children, they are themselves hate filled people. Whether western or Chinese, their children would have said the same, under the same circumstances. Those little Muslim angles who just came to this world few years ago, were expressing their anger at this world that why they are being put through such immense suffering by those "enemies". But hate for arabs was so strong in some people (who in their hate didn't even spare traumatized children) and that muslim hating sri-lankan etc. were using that to express their own respective hates. Its their own hearts, which were filled with hate yet they were projecting it on those traumatized kids.

So I started avoiding chinese posts from that point on wards. Now resurfaced Uighur issue added further anger.

Meantime I want to emphasis that we should not go too far against China so much so that we become western puppets. This is not in the interest of Islam as a whole.

The reasons is that the western countries now want Muslim to be yet another cannon fodder for their anti-china war, just like against soviets before.

Their aim would be to create another civil unrest in the Muslim world in the future.

For example in Pakistan it is estimated that over a million Chinese may be working by 2030. Similar number more or less may be working in Bangladesh.

By inciting local population against Chinese workforce , they'd want to create civil unrest so that china is economically harmed and is drawn into local skirmishes with "Chinese friendly countries". This would mean Chinese influence will be diminished, and china will be hated and those Chinese friendly countries will be significantly weakened too. These weakened chinese friendly countries will then live like a puppet western states once again. They will have no where else to go.

The point is Muslims must not become party to chinese-western war.

Since western countries when they are not busy with china, they will be busy terrorizing Muslim nations by the following standard procedure:

Exploiting, fueling, organizing, orchestrating ethnic, sectarian, and ideological differences by

1. identifying susceptible individuals with required traits (i.e. psychopaths, criminal elements, antisocial and having other psychological problems or just having a hero complex, and/or extremist ideologies), and

2. training and arming them to create terror driven chaos in otherwise stable Muslim nations

3. and then blaming these terrorist acts on those countries and then further weakening those nation (e.g. via sanctions) and finally repeating the above two steps. This time aided by economic and other devastation which further aids the above steps.

Off course bombing the Muslim countries so that enough hatred and mental health issues via trauma, fear, war etc. are created for the above to proceed, again and again.

while at it, robbing and looting Muslim resources. Selling us their overpriced weapons by pitting us with everyone else or each other.

The point is, while we should protest and let Chinese know when we are unhappy with their policies, and try to stop them as best as we can, whether diplomatically or otherwise, we must never join western world either to fight for their anti-china agenda.

Western countries should face their own enemies. We are nobody's slaves to follow their "world orders".

Instead we muslims should work together creating a united islam and increase our own cooperation to develop and advance our world while trading and exchanging with whom ever and with whatever required.


and Yes I do feel for my rohingya brothers and sisters the same way. Its also our weakness that we failed to even stand up for them. I did supported few rohingya families as syrian and iraqi's among others and still do, by the way. i.e. my feelings for muslims are universal.

I can't write more now. As I am really busy. So this would be last post, this time for real, for a while.
 
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Stop committing terrorism.
Turks genocided Greeks and Armenians after invading Anatolia. Asia Minor is occupied Eastern Greece.

Uighurs likewise genocided Mongols and Xiongnu after invading Xinjiang in the 9th century, 1000 years after Han Chinese were already in Xinjiang. Uighurs are more immigrant to Xinjiang than Han are.
What is the connection btw our subject about China's law and this?
 
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Turks genocided Greeks

Your whole post is bullshit you began with idiotism and you end with idiotism..

We Turks had plenty of time to genocide any folk but we did not..
The Greeks of turkey are not gone Turks of Anatolia have mixed with them so Turks are also natives of this area and also ppl of Central Asia.. The same happens to other folks all mix with others I am sure the central Asian Turks have many mongol genes..
 
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Bombing and torturing Muslims into submission: Freedom and promoting moderate Islam
Discussing integration of Muslim with Islamic leaders: Crackdown and ethnic cleansing
Repeating the same objectively wrong lies 1000 times: Truth, education and enlightenment
 
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Very good initiative!

China needs to throw out all the primitive desert traditions from Arabia or else Chinese Muslims will be stuck in a primitive stage of development forever.

Just take a look at the oil rich Arab countries. Even with all the money they never managed to build a top 100 university.

The dumb rightish German at it again. How convenient of you to select top 100... almost as if there are several universities just behind it.

Have you seen German universities in top 100? Even with all their "superior brains," they have like 2 or 3.

You still have Nazi genes in you, racist freak.
 
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This isn't a monologue
They repeat the same slandering narrative and you repeat their same slandering narrative no matter how many times your and their blatant lies are exposed and baseless accussations are called out. You never take one step back no matter how many times you are caught with false claims and your credible sources are exposed as shams. You never stop denying that you lack any ounce of evidence to make all of your claims, obviously due to the fact the entire narrative is fabrication in first place. You pick up every shady claim by any nameless persons that may or may not even exist as truth as long as it serves your narrative. You never stop shifting the burden of proof on China for your lies and accussations when you are pushed into a corner after you ran your mouth off without any real evidence whatsover.

This is nothing but a monologue.

One of many. Got any other excuse? See who it quotes.
One of many what? Many notorious liars? Is that your excuse?

Most of the quotes are Aljazera repeating itself and quoting at the end of obfuscating chains of proxies just U.S. regime employees and loyal U.S. based mouthpieces of the U.S. regime making up shit and feigning concerns over shit they made up. Is that your excuse?

Why not quote the real article, instead of one that only contains a single paragraph about a single phrase taken out of a single sentence and is otherwise full of the same old debunked lies and hollow slander?

Is it perhaps because the truth doesn't convey anywhere the same message without framing it?
 
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Timur, that was uncalled for.

Tell me what muslim country that has done something concretely for our Uighur brothers and sisters. Not just talk, but actually something concrete, such as cutting trade ties with china, cutting diplomatic ties with china, threatened china militarily or otherwise. They are all for money too, it seems. NO one wants to lose much. Just talk will not help Uighur muslims.

An overwhelming number of Pakistanis support our uighur muslims brothers and sisters with our hearts. We all feel their pain, and we feel angry at ourselves for being such a failure. Just like others, we can't do anything concrete. Its just the harsh truth. Just like Kashmir, we can just vent our anger for uighur muslims too but that's all we can do at this stage.
The bold part,you're mistaken. From what I have seen in PDF, the overwhelming majority of Pakistani posters here supports & defends Chinese crimes regarding our Uyghur brethren.Even the hypocrites who like to preach unity. This includes members of the administration.
I have been attacked more by Pakistani posters for speaking out against atrocities in Xinjiang than I have been attacked by Chinese posters.
Pak posters like you who actually care about our Uyghur brethren are a minority.
 
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The dumb rightish German at it again. How convenient of you to select top 100... almost as if there are several universities just behind it.

Have you seen German universities in top 100? Even with all their "superior brains," they have like 2 or 3.

You still have Nazi genes in you, racist freak.

With a pop. of 80 millions, we have three and I don't even need to count the other two much smaller German speaking countries. You have over one billion Muslims and even with all the easy oil money, there is not one top 100 university in the whole Muslim world.

Facts are facts, deal with it!
 
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The bold part,you're mistaken. From what I have seen in PDF, the overwhelming majority of Pakistani posters here supports & defends Chinese crimes regarding our Uyghur brethren.Even the hypocrites who like to preach unity. This includes members of the administration.
I have been attacked more by Pakistani posters for speaking out against atrocities in Xinjiang than I have been attacked by Chinese posters.
Pak posters like you who actually care about our Uyghur brethren are a minority.

Few hundred regular PDF posters DO NOT represent 210 million Muslims of Pakistan. Many PDF members are self declared "secular and/or agnostic" while real Pakistanis are deeply religious Even when when they appear not to be. Plus CPEC associated fears prevents people expressing their true feelings.

Furthermore here most including myself do not express support for Uighur since its get hijacked by western elements who then start grooming us to be their foot soldiers against China.

Pakistanis do care about other muslims, more than others in many instances.

My childhood friend (much older than me) in Pakistan Ali Hassan went and died for Iraqi muslims after he heard about muslim women feeding their urine to thirsty dying babies during American Siege of fallujah when United states cut off "water supplies to the city. He couldn't stand thirsty dying muslim babies. He just had his engagement done to a very beautiful girl. Yet he left her and let go all of what he ever had for the source of all existence, Allah and His people.

A distant uncle who lives in UAE has gone in the danger zone of Yemen to provide assistance as doctor (he is a surgeon) to the Yemeni Muslim. He is still there. These ones I know. There are others too, related to other Pakistanis.

Pakistanis fought for countries from central asia to Afghanistan in their individual capacities more than any other country in this region. Kindly do not insult those selfless people. There have to be a lot of caring people so that they have few who gone to such extremes.

Pakistanis are hot blooded muslims. There exists angels among so many imperfect Pakistani muslims. One should also remember that.

Along with Rohinya and Uighurs , general Pakistanis support and stand for Syria and Yemen where even Pakistani celebrities have gone or collected funds for, just like Arabs came to fight along side us for Afghanistan. We have those people because average Pakistanis do care. From these general caring population some go further by taking practical actions to stand for the oppressed and even die for them. Some PDF member might try to hijack these statements though, stating see Pakistanis care, arabs don't etc. To them my message is focus on yourselves, don't try to own other people's selfless acts to further your agendas.

Supporting one country is not enough. Supporting everyone makes us true Muslim.

Do realize a large number of Pakistanis married Uighur muslim women so that they don't have to live in china. Hundreds went back to meet their parents and got imprisoned by Chinese. They should have stayed within Pakistan where they were safe and free.

I understand your possible "need to prove" that Pakistanis are so bad that they don't stand for islam. Or may be your experience here on PDF is bad enough to conclude that. But that's not "general Pakistani public". Many PDF members from all countries are few hundred outliers. Not average national of any country. Average Pakistanis can't even speak such good English to begin with.

I leave Allah to judge which nation is better or not. You should too. We should try to focus on ourselves, what we did or not do right.

I am off now.
 
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With a pop. of 80 millions, we have three and I don't even need to count the other two much smaller German speaking countries. You have over one billion Muslims and even with all the easy oil money, there is not one top 100 university in the whole Muslim world.

Facts are facts, deal with it!

One billion Muslims. How many of them have access to all that beautiful oil money and quality life and education.
 
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