China-Pak N-cooperation needs NSG approval: US

[Goodperson]

Both nations can sign it together , both the NPT and CTBT that is.

NSG waiver is required only to get around the above two treaties.

 

[daredevil]

We did what we had to. Its as simple as that. In the future, if there are concerns, put oversight on the dealings and exchange of technology and materials to Pakistan but let the exchange happen. What is the world punishing Pakistan for? Its quite illogical as whatever has happened with proliferation is a thing of the past. Its almost useless to dig up the proliferation issues of the past as most great powers of the day have meddled in quite a bit of it.

Additionally, its counter-productive to continue to harp about a past dealing and that too to muzzle the Pakistani nuclear weapons program (something that they have tried to do for 30 years and have not succeeded) and now everyone knows it can't happen any longer.

So If they have such heartburn over not trusting Pakistan, then we will go the other way. Lets see what they can do to stop China and Pakistan from dealing.

They cannot stop any deal between China and Pakistan regarding Nuclear power plant construction. Problem will be with the supply of nuclear fuel, dual use technology etc. There is no point in constructing power plants without the means for their sustenance. Economically that doesn't make sense for both china and pakistan.

 

[was]

Updated at: 0032 PST, Saturday, November 22, 2008
U.S. Opposes Chinese Reactor Sales to Pakistan WASHINGTON: The United States this week objected to Chinese plans to build two nuclear reactors in Pakistan near Chashma.

Senior Pakistani officials announced last month that China had agreed to build two additional reactors at Chashma, where Beijing has already built one nuclear power station and is erecting another. The earlier projects were formalized before China joined the 45-nation Nuclear Suppliers Group, the body that sets nuclear trade guidelines.

Nuclear Suppliers Group rules bar sales of sensitive nuclear technology and materials to nations, such as Pakistan, that have not joined the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty and do not allow international monitoring of all their nuclear activities. Earlier this year, the group agreed to exempt India from the sales ban, opening the door for New Delhi to purchase civil nuclear technology from the France, Russia, the United States and others.

"The U.S. position is that cooperation on the construction of two new reactors, Chashma III and IV, would be inconsistent with the commitments China made at the time of its adherence to Nuclear Suppliers Group guidelines in 2004," said U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Matthew Reynolds in correspondence this week to Representative Edward Markey (D-Mass.). Reynolds was responding to a letter Markey wrote last month to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice expressing concern about the reactor deal.

"At that time, China's representatives detailed in a statement China's ongoing nuclear cooperation with Pakistan that would be 'grandfathered' upon China's adherence; nothing in that statement permitted construction of reactors beyond Chashma I and II," Reynolds stated.

"Any new cooperation, therefore, would require consensus approval by the NSG for an exception to the guidelines," he continued. "Although Pakistan's energy needs are real and increasing, we believe Pakistan's proliferation record would make NSG consensus difficult where China to request an exception."

Markey praised the State Department opinion and referred to a multinational nuclear smuggling ring once led by top Pakistani nuclear scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan.

"Pakistan is responsible for more nuclear proliferation than any other single country; nuclear cooperation is off the table," he said in a statement yesterday.

"There is no doubt whatsoever that international nonproliferation rules bar China from providing Pakistan with new nuclear reactors," Markey added. "This is clear from a plain-language reading of the Nuclear Suppliers Group guidelines, and I am very pleased that the Bush administration has agreed with this view."

"China should not violate its international obligations by selling new nuclear reactors to Pakistan. The United States has clearly stated that such a sale would be against international nonproliferation rules, and I hope other countries stand up to deliver the same message," he said.

U.S. Opposes Chinese Reactor Sales to Pakistan - GEO.tv

 

[Awesome]

They cannot stop any deal between China and Pakistan regarding Nuclear power plant construction. Problem will be with the supply of nuclear fuel, dual use technology etc. There is no point in constructing power plants without the means for their sustenance. Economically that doesn't make sense for both china and pakistan.

Pakistan has enough U to last decades. Just limited means of using it.

 

[nitesh]

They cannot stop any deal between China and Pakistan regarding Nuclear power plant construction. Problem will be with the supply of nuclear fuel, dual use technology etc. There is no point in constructing power plants without the means for their sustenance. Economically that doesn't make sense for both china and pakistan.

Nope the reactors can be stopped as china is a member of NSG. The chasma plants are having the grandfather clause. Hence two more reactors can be built but not more then that until a deal like India gets approved from NSG or pakistan signs NPT and CTBT and becomes member of NSG.

 

[fatman17]

mods, a lot of duplicate and triplicate topics are being posted. i know u guys do a great job but how can we control or minimize this (esp the newbies)