China opposes Israel's settlements construction in occupied Palestinian territory

[ephone]

I live in China for more than 20 years. I have many relatives in countryside. I have stayed at countryside from 3-month old until 7-year old. I have been back there many times as well since my grandma lives there as well.

I have many college classmates that have countryside roots. My wife does as well. What do you think college night talks are all about??? We talked about what we see, we hear from our relatives and of course other important issues.

I hear from my dad about how the village my aunts/uncles live has such problems and etc. I have such a long connection with the countryside since I have stayed there for so long. You have any then???

Can you find official documents on "infanticide"?
I am telling the truth, if you are Chinese, if you've been to China, you will know that I am telling the truth.


Why is abortion and "type-B ultrasonic"test such low prices? Because they have a lot of customers, poor customer!

 

[ephone]

BTW, I am not going to write any posts with those distracting posts unless it is related to the main point in this topic. Keep yours on the main one as the header shows. I will only answer those that are related.

 

[below_freezing]

Can you find official documents on "infanticide"?
I am telling the truth, if you are Chinese, if you've been to China, you will know that I am telling the truth.


Why is abortion and "type-B ultrasonic"test such low prices? Because they have a lot of customers, poor customer!

Everyone knows that type B ultrasound and abortion is the main problem. It has been outlawed already. The opportunity cost of infanticide is far too high for females in either city or countryside who cannot work and are thus missing potential income during time of pregnancy.

My theory is, this is not attributed to wealth, but to cultural influences and enforcement of the 1 child policy (semienforcement worst, free enforcement and extremely strict enforcement best). Here semienforcement is defined as Han, rural, free enforcement is defined as Minority, rural, and extremely strict is all, urban. Cost of ultrasound and abortion is not the limiting factor, but rather the social status of females is.


2000

Parameters: Age 0-14 Children, Rural and City combined.

City Male Female
Beijing 958876 884892
Guangxi 6286764 5198332

Ratio: Beijing 108:100, Guangxi 121:100

Now let's compare Guangxi's cities, Guangxi's villages, Beijing's central districts, and Beijing's rural districts.

Guilin Shi (Urban): 502927 431528 Ratio: 116:100
Qinzhou Shi (rural): 523895 380597 Ratio: 138:100

Beijing Dongcheng District (urban): 31068 29280 Ratio: 106:100
Beijing Pinggu County (rural): 46887 41220 Ratio: 113:100

However, things get interesting when we look at Guangxi's Nanning Shi (urban), and compare it to Yunnan's Kunming Shi (urban) which both have similar incomes and similar levels of enforcement.

Nanning: 352827 280592 Ratio: 126:100
Kunming: 571203 531478 Ratio: 109:100

Nanning has a male/female ratio higher than the Guangxi average, despite being an urban area. Kunming by contrast is an urban area of similar income and enforcement level of 1 child policy yet has a normal male:female ratio

For an example of a free enforcement area:

Tibet Dangxiong County: 6932 6934 Ratio: 100:100

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Things get interesting here: we notice that wealth has nothing to do with male:female ratios!

Half the provinces in the top 10 of male:female ratio are dirt poor: Tibet, Xinjiang, Yunnan, Qinghai, Shanxi. Among these, 3 of them are minority dominant. The other half are a mix of medium and high income: Inner Mongolia, Beijing, Shanghai, Jilin, Heilongjiang. Of these, 4 are Han dominant and 2 of the Han dominated areas are high income.

My conclusion: wealth is not the limiting factor. Being a rich Han province or a dirt poor minority province gives a more decent male:female ratio. Additionally, one dirt poor Northern Han province (Shanxi) also have a more realistic male:female ratio but we can regard it as an outlier.

Guangxi is the extreme exception, being minority dominant yet with a huge 126:100 ratio.

The worst provinces are Han dominant, middle income such as Hubei and Jiangxi.

 

[below_freezing]

Also note that Guizhou is the poorest province in China by per capita income, Han dominant, yet its sex ratio is 112:100, close to Beijing/Shanghai and Guiyang, one of the poorest urban areas in China, is 107:100 the world average. Could it be an outlier like Shanxi is?

 

[marshall]

You mean Canada government supports Castro??? Its position is construction engagement, not support.

I used the word "Canadians" which obviously refers to the people. You would know about this support if you were familiar with Canadian mainstream media and more than 10 Canadian citizens.

Cuba health care is good and it has supported the third world countries in the past with many health care teams. Nobody has denied that.

I thought the point was obvious but I guess not. It was to emphasize Cuba is not some hellhole dictatorship with the leader accumulating a vast fortune at the expense of the people, something you clearly insinuate. The reality is the opposite and made more glaring by Cubas limited resources and unending sanctions.

About its economy, what an easy way to do is to blame the US. US sanctions causes all of the Cuba's economic problems???

Of course, it has a big impact. The most important factor is its planned economy system like China had 30 years ago.

It definitely is all about the USA. You do not understand how the world political economic system works to choke nations to death using the Anglo-Saxon world order. All it takes is for the USA to impose sanctions and the target country will suffer economic hardship from multiple dimensions whether it is communist or capitalist. Technology, medicine, international financing, industry, etc. Basically everything that the target country cannot produce themselves will be negatively affected. This is why China of all the nations in the world is the only country that would be able to withstand permanent Anglo-Saxon world order sanctions and still eventually prosper. This is because it reached the critical point of no return around 2003-2004 when its industrial/scientific/technological resource pool became self-sustaining and gained the inevitable ability to EVENTUALLY match the Anglo-Saxon world order. This is how the developing world will be saved by China because China will be the equalizer from any punitive power politics played on the part of the Anglo-Saxon world order when they look for strategic advantages.

The same cannot be said for Cuba and it is why it could not fully prosper until recently when China stepped in to replace what was being sanctioned. I'm not sure where you are getting your information but Cuba is nowhere near a failed state. As a matter of fact, its economic growth has been doing quite well and luckily they just recently discovered huge oil reserves, which China will be helping to develop.

"constructive engagement with Cuba. The policy was designed to support movement in the direction of peaceful transition, with full respect for human rights, genuinely representative government institutions, an open economy, and eventual reintegration into the hemisphere"

Considering China has been endlessly proclaiming its "Peaceful Rise" and slow gradual political reform, why isn't the United States constructively engaging China? Simplistic explanations like 1989 don't cut it. If that were true, then half of America's allies would be targets of China style demonization tomorrow.

About what Castro's perks, well, he indeed has a lot more than what normal Cuban would ever have. If everybody has what he has, Cuba will have no problem at all.

What Castro perks are you referring to? Besides accusations that have no proof, is there anything you can provide? Are you saying that because Cuba has a per capita GDP of $5000 that Castro as the leader of Cuba for nearly 50 years should live the lifestyle of the average in his country? Do you realize this man is a trained lawyer yet he is well known as having lived a spartan lifestyle?

BTW, use clear evidence (list my sentence) to point out the problem, not just make empty accusations simply by imaginations.

The entire theme of your thoughts spells it out quite clearly, I'm sure everybody knows what I mean.

 

[huzihaidao12]

I refer to placenta 胎盘, not 婴儿. Nobody eats 婴儿 unless he/she is criminally minded.

I am not saying that for some western media or whatsoever. So please do not put a big hat on my head.

Infanticide in China indeed exists and I can clearly tell you that it is not just a few cases.

But, in fact, your misleading will make the West happy. I did not say that other, as long as you clarify this point enough.

Like I said, even as the poor past, Infanticide is still only a very few, almost all in rural areas. You deny it?

 

[huzihaidao12]

You clearly do not know anybody from those regions. I have friends and classmates from Xinjiang, LanZhou, NingXia, Shaanxi and etc. My wife also have many classmates from there. She also knows some girls from Uighur class (新疆&#29677. All of these are first hand knowledge through casual conversations through my five years and her four years college life. We also met some friends from there in US for the last decades.

Majority Han vs Minority Muslim tension has always been there, especially in the countryside and the western regions including Gansu, Ningxia and Xinjiang. Uighur and Hui are two that clash with Han for most of the time. My friends told me that if I ever go to those places, do not have any confrontation with those locals. They also try their best to avoid them and avoid any possibility of confrontation.

In major cities along the East China, you do not see much problems since Han is so dominant. In the western region, it is totally different story even Han is still dominant, but not everywhere.

Han has tight control over those minorities and over how they can practice their religions (set up many limitations). The resentment clearly is there. In highly-educated places, such conflicts are less likely. However, in those rural areas with little formal education but 阿訇 Imams, it is much more likely.

You must have read so much our peaceful majority-minority relationship propaganda within China and believe those craps. Clearly, except Tibet and muslim, we indeed have much fewer problems with other minorities. Well these two minorities indeed have a much deeper root in religion than others.

You do not know China. You think you know China, then I ask you, as you can for example the allegation, let's have a look if it is a fact. What are the limits in the religion? You answer me.

 

[huzihaidao12]

First, I did not say baby-eating. If you say I have said so, find it where I have said: "Chinese people eat babies"???

For the thing you never heard of, try google "人胎盘怎么吃最有营养" and you will find many recipes.

"type-B ultrasonic"??? How naive.

It is possible to be done if you can afford it and there are people who indeed take such test. However, what will be the percentage??? You think in countryside how many people can afford such test??? What a joke.

Now I know, you really are not a Chinese, or you leave for too long (at least 20 years). 30 black and white, 100 for the color, do you really think it is a burden for Chinese farmers? You do not know China.

 

[below_freezing]

He left in the 90's and was from rural northern China where people have a big man attitude.

I still think all people from Hubei should be ashamed of our province having the "honor" of having one of the most inbalanced sex ratio in the country.

 

[huzihaidao12]

First, That is your point, not mine.

My point is that it is not China's interest to totally side with Muslim, or totally side with Jewish state. We need maintain our balance. We will not condemn Israel wholeheartedly and that will block any further healthy relationship development. So I think it is very likely we have certain co-operations with Israel behind curtains or let Israel know what our comments really mean and such comments are not meant to hurt relationship between the two countries. Without such diplomatic channels, it will be easily understood by the Israel that China is on the total opposite side of Israel, such misunderstanding clearly is not in China interest. We only blindly support those Arabs during Mao's era. After open and reform, we have adjusted our positions a lot already.

Of course, we have to say something to make the Arabs happy since we have to buy a lot of oil and gas from them. So such diplomatic comments are just superficial and China indeed will not do anything about it even Israel continue building settlements there day in and day out.

I do believe in the long run Israel need make concession to be possible to have permanent peace by giving up lands and dividing Jerusalem, just like what Israel did with Egypt over Sinai. While giving up some lands might be possible, dividing Jerusalem might be nearly impossible. However, that is up to them and their next generations to decide what they want.

As for the Muslim Uighur, they do received financial supports from many Muslim countries including those Arabs. Saudi has been a big financiers to muslims all over the world, including them of course. I do think China need its iron hand on those Uighur since that is the only thing they understand better. For the past 400 years, history clearly has shown that under Iron Hand control, there will be peace there. As long as government looses the control, they will tend to carry on their terrorist/separatist activities.

BTW, about your percentage stuff, I have no idea where that comes from. Those percentages are really clean: 100%, 75%, 50%, 25%....

In addition, "know the difference between an "Arab Israeli" and a "West-bank Palestinian"" will have any influence??? For Arab Israeli, they have Israel nationality and ethically are Arab. The other ones do not have Israel nationality and are refuges due to those several Arab-Israel wars in the past decades. What does that will bring you???

About Einstein's view on Zionism, I have no idea. Knowing his view or not knowing his view will be of help to solve any issue here? His contribution is not in politics, but in Physics. He is one of those Jewish scientists who have made great contribution to human development. He has never been a politician and he even turned down invitation to be the first president of Jewish state. What is your point dragging him here?

As for "articulate for us the difference between a West-bank Palestinian and an Arab Israeli", clearly the big difference is that one has a official country it belongs to while the other does (West-bank Palestinian) not but stay as refuges for generations.

Israeli Arabs would be much less likely support of Hamas even though they are also Muslims. While Palestinian may have strong support Hamas since they see no other way out.

Still showing or knowing their difference will mean what exactly??? I have no idea where you want to drag it into but I know it is already far away from the main point we discussed about China position over Israel and Palestinian.

I bring to you a simple answer, the relationship between China and Israel is really not so good and your imagination. But the Arab countries are our friends, has provided great support of our political, diplomatic and economic. Even if China's interests, the choice is obvious.

 

[ephone]

I am from one of the major cities. I was in countryside due to some special reasons.

So stop pretending to be the detective.

He left in the 90's and was from rural northern China where people have a big man attitude.

I still think all people from Hubei should be ashamed of our province having the "honor" of having one of the most inbalanced sex ratio in the country.

 

[ephone]

You think it is all about money and it is so easy for women just to have a scan and then take abortion. Afterwards, everything is normal for them.

Good thinking???!!!

Good relationship with those Arabs? Well, we have been good to NK, VN, USSR, Albania and etc... We even boasted that they are our blood brothers. You know what happened later?

Throughout my posts, I maintain that it is China's interest to maintain a balanced relationship with Arabs as well as Israel. A bunch of guys jump out advocating we should stay at the side of Arabs, be the justice man and condemn Israel. Are we getting another blood brother again???

I am not going to deal with a bunch of idiots here any more. Enjoy your off-track analysis from those supposed self-claimed experts.

Now I know, you really are not a Chinese, or you leave for too long (at least 20 years). 30 black and white, 100 for the color, do you really think it is a burden for Chinese farmers? You do not know China.

 

[CardSharp]

What a nutter.

 

[oceanx]

You think it is all about money and it is so easy for women just to have a scan and then take abortion. Afterwards, everything is normal for them.

Good thinking???!!!

Pls let this particular subject drop and respect the "mandate" of this place where you are I are guests. People here get hard-ons about J-xx and F-yys. Others like me are here for the "politics" and "exchange" (with whatever little time we have). Maybe you know or you just think you know ... but very few anywhere know the technicalities of different abortion methods.

And nobody wants to know.

Those who do have some knowledge wish they don't (that's a polite way of saying that some of us may also know more about that than you but don't think this is the suitable medium to discuss it).

The so-called B-scans (known simply as US in the rest of the world) are most definitely a problem, and not just in China - I can tell you unequivocally it's even a problem here in Canada - among the immigrants, although by my reckoning more so among Indians than among the ethnic Chinese here.

But let's heed your own advice and focus on what's germane to the topic.

 

[iPakMan]

Honestly though, Experts say within a few decades Oil will be scarce and what oil that will be left will probably be not used anymore, given all the pollution, ozone, Nuclear power plants etc etc... Some people here believe that supporting Arab countries is vital but, what happens when they run out of oil/oil isn`t used anymore? Those arab countries will be the same arab countries that support terrorism, jihad, oppress women, marry 5 year old girls etc... When Israel will be one of the most advanced countries in the world, technologically superior to most, shares all her knowledge and technology with the US, India and other friendly nations? Do you actually believe in the long run it is better to alienate Israel just for a couple of more decades of Oil?
Not to mention the Military advances Israel will make, First modern UAV, Einstein, Oppenheimer, Cohen, all jewish scientists... Alienate Israel for Barbaric Arab countries? Doesn`t seem like the wisest thing to do...