China No. 1 Foreign Investor in Bangladesh, New Official Figures Show

[Homo Sapiens]

That's your believe so, you don't give us priorities and we don't want any, China made biggest money from the west and they don't give us priorities, we Chinese fully trust our competitiveness and we don't want favors, our competitiveness is unrivaled.

Actually China got a lot of favor from the west. The current trade war with United States has it's roots in the believe held many in US including Donald Trump that China got many unfair advantage in trade with United States. And Donald Trump is trying to rectify that. International trade do not always done on cold calculation of profit. Many things are associated with it, such as geo-politics. So Chinese ''efficiency'' may not reign supreme if it continue to damage relation with more countries. What is Dutarte saying now a days? He was China's biggest friend in Philippines.

 

[beijingwalker]

Actually China got a lot of favor from the west. The current trade war with United States has it's root in the believe held many in US including Donald Trump that China got many unfair advantage in trade with United States. And Donald Trump is trying to rectify that. Trade do not always done on cold calculation of profit. Many things are associated with it, such as geo-politics. So Chinese ''efficiency'' may not reign supreme if it continue to damage relation with more countries. What is Dutarte is saying now a days? He was China's biggest friend in Philippines.

If you believe that the west always favors China over other western countries and buys Chinese products because of love, be my guest. We see so much love from the west over decades.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

If you believe that the west always favors China over other western countries and buys Chinese products because of love, be my guest. We see so much love from the west over decades.

Not love, of course, profit was the main motif. But there was also a desire to see China cease to be the country with world's largest poor population, to turn them from a burden to economic partner. Perhaps, there was also thought in the west that, with economic liberalization and prosperity, China would cease to be a bellicose communist country and march towards democracy. That's why they promoted Chinese economic growth through their policies. For these considerations perhaps, China enjoyed and still enjoying many benefit and concession which usually reserved for the small, poor countries.

 

[beijingwalker]

Not love, of course, profit was the main motif. But there was also a desire to see China cease to be the country with world's largest poor population, to turn them from a burden to economic partner. Perhaps, there was also thought in the west that, with economic liberalization and prosperity, China would cease to be a bellicose communist country and march towards democracy. That's why they promoted Chinese economic growth through their policies. For these considerations perhaps, China enjoyed and still enjoying many benefit and concession which usually reserved for the small, poor countries.

China didn't enjoy what Bangladesh didn't enjoy when doing business with the west, India is the same case. the west didn't buy Chinese products becaue they were made in China,if same products with equally everything made in India,the west will also buy, there's no preference for any particular country. in capitalist west, making money is always the priority, the west can't force people only buy Chinese products and not products made by other countries.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

China didn't enjoy what Bangladesh didn't enjoy when doing business with the west, India is the same case. the west didn't buy Chinese products becaue they were made in China,if same products with equally everything made in India,the west will also buy, there's no preference for any particular country. in capitalist west, making money is always the priority, the west can't force people only buy Chinese products and not products made by other countries.

I am not denying India or Bangladesh did not get what China got. Bangladesh and India also benefited and made some progress. But China made most out of it due to certain existing favorable conditions. But the argument still hold true. China benefited tremendously from West's globalization policy. And globalization is not purely based on self national interest. There is a liberal democratic ideology behind it. Otherwise Western countries could have imposed investment restrictions on their companies to protect their jobs and industrial production. In that cases, Chinese economic miracle may never have happened.

 

[beijingwalker]

I am not denying India or Bangladesh did not get what China got. Bangladesh and India also benefited and made some progress. But China made most out of it due to certain existing favorable conditions. But the argument still hold true. China benefited tremendously from West's globalization policy. And globalization is not purely based on self national interest. There is a liberal democratic ideology behind it. Otherwise Western countries could have imposed investment restrictions on their companies to protect their jobs and industrial production. In that cases, Chinese economic miracle may never have happened.

I think we are talking about favors and priorities Chinese get , favors and priorities mean preferential treatment over others, what favors China enjoys that west didn't give to the rest of the world?

 

[Homo Sapiens]

I think we are talking about favors and priorities Chinese get , favors and priorities mean preferential treatment over others, what favors China enjoys that west didn't give to the rest of the world?

Many countries also got same favors. But many countries and China are not the same. As a 2nd largest or largest(ppp) economy China still get many favors, which is usually appropriate to weaker, smaller economies. And this is one of the reason for current trade war. Others getting favors and benefit do not nullify of what China got.

 

[beijingwalker]

Many countries also got same favors. But many countries and China are not the same. As a 2nd largest or largest(ppp) economy China still get many favors, which is usually appropriate to weaker, smaller economies. And this is one of the reason for current trade war. Others getting favors and benefit do not nullify of what China got.

Then what's not getting a favor?

 

[UKBengali]

Guys, are we able to get back to topic please?

Like I say this is pure business for BD and China.

China is mainly investing in BD power industry as it wants to make money by selling electricity to BD consumers over the next 2-3 decades. Demand is simply sky-rocketing upwards.

Others like US and Germany have also shown interest in investing in BD power plants and they are likely to be favoured over China going forward.

As Chinese opportunity in FDI in power generation will be limited in the future, it will be interesting to see whether they next move to relocating a large chunk of their low to medium tech manufacturing industry to BD.

 

[Bilal9]

If you believe that the west always favors China over other western countries and buys Chinese products because of love, be my guest. We see so much love from the west over decades.

The West loves Chinese products primarily because of PRICE. Chinese items are always one-third the price of Western (American products) or even cheaper. If price is equal or even a little bit lower (and this I say with no malice) there is no reason to buy Chinese at all.

There is a huge quality gap in some (some say most) Chinese products. Of course every country makes good/bad products, but if given the choice I will always buy ONE quality product than FIVE pieces of junk on eBay (such as OLFA, NT Cutter knockoffs). Chinese have a long way to go to produce quality products and convince the West of this.

Some Chinese products are getting to be high quality - such as accessory SLR camera lenses, for example, which I have bought, they are trying, and I will patroniz

Chinese have to work VERY hard to fill the credibility gap (Intellectual property theft issues and toxic item claims in food) however.

 

[Jlaw]

China will still lobby or try to bribe to get contracts as China only looks for money and they are self centered and hardly has any self respect.

Bangladesh will just maintain business relation as long as it is beneficial for both.

Lol, so Chinese government is doing what they are supposed to do. That is to make their country strong through hook or crook. Meanwhile all Bangladeshi can do is accept Chinese investment along with Chinese conditions. Furthermore all PDF Bangladeshi can do is bitch and cry.

Many countries also got same favors. But many countries and China are not the same. As a 2nd largest or largest(ppp) economy China still get many favors, which is usually appropriate to weaker, smaller economies. And this is one of the reason for current trade war. Others getting favors and benefit do not nullify of what China got.

Name one thing the west gave to China that was exclusively for China and never done for other nations?

 

[SBUS-CXK]

The West loves Chinese products primarily because of PRICE. Chinese items are always one-third the price of Western (American products) or even cheaper. If price is equal or even a little bit lower (and this I say with no malice) there is no reason to buy Chinese at all.

There is a huge quality gap in some (some say most) Chinese products. Of course every country makes good/bad products, but if given the choice I will always buy ONE quality product than FIVE pieces of junk on eBay (such as OLFA, NT Cutter knockoffs). Chinese have a long way to go to produce quality products and convince the West of this.

Some Chinese products are getting to be high quality - such as accessory SLR camera lenses, for example, which I have bought, they are trying, and I will patroniz

Chinese have to work VERY hard to fill the credibility gap (Intellectual property theft issues and toxic item claims in food) however.

Bangladeshi talk about price, quality and eBay.

 

[beijingwalker]

The West loves Chinese products primarily because of PRICE.

Replace the west with the world, who doesn't? It's the very essence of competitiveness and the ability to put rivals out of business.

 

[Nilgiri]

Bangladeshi talk about price, quality and eBay.

He is funny guy. He thinks stitching clothes is the same value/difficulty as assembling cars even. So rest of his credibility (like posting pages and pages of the same 4 storey buildings in Dhaka as some skyscraper miracle) just natural consequence of that.

I am not even kidding:

Please read the original post in all its splendour lol:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indi...ses-to-bangladesh.264542/page-27#post-7468277

Sewing and stitching is INFINITELY more of a critical and precision industry than auto manufacturing. Just try to comprehend that....and you will also comprehend this sissy crybaby emotion when he sees exactly what China exports to say France...a random western developed market... (composition wise, with level playing field in effect) compared to Bangladesh lol:

https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/visualize/tree_map/hs92/export/chn/fra/show/2017/

https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/visualize/tree_map/hs92/export/bgd/fra/show/2017/

(man that green overload!!!! - if only every country had magical LDC globalist feeling 0 tariff overreach - it would solve the worlds problems!)

Because RMG sweatshops (strangely reliant on 0 tariff access for superpower precision industry Bangladesh) are the most advanced high precision industry there is.....please dont peddle any fake news about Chinese quality lol....its just "cheap ebay stuff" compared to mighty "critical precision overload" BD underwear!

@bluesky @Offshore @Jlaw @Dungeness @Chinese-Dragon @sinait @TaiShang @beijingwalker @Marine Rouge @055_destroyer @Feng Leng

 

[beijingwalker]

There is a huge quality gap in some (some say most) Chinese products. Of course every country makes good/bad products,

10 years ago that might by true, but if you say now then your mind is stuck in the past.