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Hey you don't need to apologize to me.

We're discussing the causes of the Sino-Indian rivalry. That was the cause.

Am i apologizing:what::what:

Am still at the point if Dalai Lama and his followers are criminals in China you can very well approch international courts. But if there is no directive from the International courts on them we are free to host them.....
 
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When they abolish the use of Chinese, they eradicate their own history, for their histories are all written in Chinese. If they uproot themselves from their history, they loose their national identity.

It's all up to their decision...

I know it is well known that many (not all) Indians do not care their history.
Utter BS. Emigres have no problems with their identities in the new country under new citizenships. Populations migrate to new lands and forged new national identities and nothing adverse came out of it. Care to explain the US and your Canada? Take any country within the last three hundred years, examine its roots, and present your argument that said country must be ashamed of itself for forging a new national identity. By your reasoning, Canadians must be deeply ashamed of themselves, eh?
 
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I get called a false flag because of what? I am a christian pakistani currently studying in germany and am one of the rare few who are not disillusioned by the fanfare. I studied in an indian school in dubai with a whole lot of pakistanis who, like me never harboured the hate. I would call "chinese dragon" a typical pakistani with knowledge of chinese history and politics. Do not accuse me of anything without tangiable evidence.
 
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But if there is no directive from the International courts on them we are free to host them.....

Yes you are free to host them, just like you have done for the past half century.

Next time you wonder why China and India don't get along with each other, you can recall this point.

And here is an interesting quote from the I Ching.... "Kang long you hui". :azn:
 
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I get called a false flag because of what? I am a christian pakistani currently studying in germany and am one of the rare few who are not disillusioned by the fanfare. I studied in an indian school in dubai with a whole lot of pakistanis who, like me never harboured the hate. I would call "chinese dragon" a typical pakistani with knowledge of chinese history and politics. Do not accuse me of anything without tangiable evidence.

I'm not the one who said that. Ask your Pakistani fellows why they call you a false flag, if you want to know their rationale.
 
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dont be such an ignorance and a troll how many vietnamese live around yr neck of wood? 3 or 5 families? and you telling me they represent the opinion of the vietnamese. have you ever been to vietnam?i myself been to vietnam many times i even have relatives in saigon.Vienamese admire chinese many of them consider an honor to have their sons or daughters marrying into a chinesse family.for yr info too classical vietnamese is just a translation of cantonese.
Sonny...You are really pushing beliefs over the cliffs here...:rolleyes:...

Chinese Man Spends 35K For ‘Obedient’ Vietnamese Wife – chinaSMACK
Summary: A Nanjing man surnamed Dai remarried after only spending 35,000 yuan to “find” a wife from Vietnam. “Not greedy, not lazy, not too open, not arrogant, not money-worshiping, is young, pretty, hard-working, kind-hearted, and key is obedient”, netizens have used “best quality product” to describe Dai’s wife. “Going to Vietnam to find a wife” has in recent years become the choice for a portion of bachelors, but there are also netizens who are questioning this kind of “buying a wife” method.
There are plenty of sorry tales of young Viet girls who were effectively 'sold' or seduced into marrying Chinese or Korean men, only to have lives of lies and of abuse and misery in their husbands' countries.

Do Vietnamese women really long to marry Chinese men? | CNNGo.com
It is true that women from poor areas of Vietnam have been known to marry Chinese, Korean or Taiwanese men, but to say Vietnamese women long to marry them would be news in Vietnam as well. Usually foreign "wife buyers" are poorer, older men from rural areas who cannot land a mate at home. And what respectable woman would long for a man that can't find a woman except by purchasing one?

“We hate Chinese men,” says bank worker P. Ha, 28, on behalf of herself and her friend. But she concedes that marrying into a better life is an opportunity that some find hard to pass up. Seated opposite central Hoan Kiem Lake where many young Vietnamese couples come to walk in circles hand in hand, she explains: “Many Vietnamese girls need money. They have to escape hardship so they get married for money. I feel so sorry for them.”

She relates the same sordid tales of abuse and exploitation that have been circulating in local and foreign media for years, the ones that may force the government to begin regulating the foreign marriage market racket. That will be especially important if, by 2020, China has 24 million excess bachelors, as has been reported, who will be looking overseas to find partners.
Between middleclass me and a millionaire Chinese businessman in Viet Nam looking for a wife, I will have more picking than your fellow Chinese. You may be able to pass this tripe somewhere else but not here.
 
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The right wing chinese attitudes expressed in the article and this thread should be a wake up call. It is kind of remeniscent of pre WWII Japanese attitudes. Currently the Chinese military is held in check by the Government. But if they ever in the future exert control watchout.
What's wrong with being right-wing or left-wing?
Nothing 'wrong' about it but the political label is quite revealing -- That as China increases economic and military strength in Asia, China will begin to assert racialist attitudes similar to the Yamato.
 
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Yuan and Qing were Chinese. They were just not Han Chinese. The Manchu were fully assimilated by late Qing Dynasty.

You do not get to claim what belongs to the Mughals because Republic of India is not a successor state to the Mughals. PRC is a successor state to Republic of China. Republic of China is a successor state to the Qing Dynasty.

By that logic
Marathas & Sikhs succeeded the Mughals,the British succeed the Marathas & Sikhs and Republic of India succeeded British India.

So we inherit what belonged to British India?
I don't think so,since we"ll end up having Nepal,Bhutan also more parts of Aksai Chin,though not Arunachal Pradesh.
 
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Yuan and Qing were Chinese. They were just not Han Chinese. The Manchu were fully assimilated by late Qing Dynasty.

You do not get to claim what belongs to the Mughals because Republic of India is not a successor state to the Mughals. PRC is a successor state to Republic of China. Republic of China is a successor state to the Qing Dynasty.


Qing(Manchus) and Yuan(Mongols) where the equivalent to the British or the Timur empire to India. These are nomadic tribes that were considered aliens to the Hans. And you know this.
 
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Qing(Manchus) and Yuan(Mongols) where the equivalent of the British or the Timur empire to India. These are nomadic tribes that were considered aliens to the Hans. And you know this.

Manchus and Mongolians who have roots in China are now considered "Chinese".

They are two of the 56 recognized ethnic groups in Zhong hua min zu.

And if you met a Manchu in China, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
 
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Manchus and Mongolians who are in China are now considered "Chinese".

They are two of the 56 recognized ethnic groups in Zhong hua min zu.

And if you met a Manchu in China you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.



I understand that in the present.
 
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I understand that in the present.

You're right, at one point they were considered barbarians. However the Tian xia worldview saw everyone outside the center as barbarians anyway.

Just tell me this, if you met a Manchu in China, how would you be able to tell the difference from the Han? They all speak Chinese now, they wear the same clothes and follow the same culture.

Manchus may have conquered China once, but in the end the Manchus were assimilated into the Chinese culture.
 
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Just tell me this, if you met a Manchu in China, how would you be able to tell the difference from the Han? They all speak Chinese now, they wear the same clothes and follow the same culture.

Manchus may have conquered China once, but in the end the Manchus were assimilated into the Chinese culture.

Chinese-Dragon I understand that in the present.
 
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