China mocks India's democratic system

[indianBong]

BEIJING: Deriding India's democratic system, official Chinese media here on Thursday defended ruling Communist Party's monopoly on power, saying if China had opted for democracy it would have become another India "where around 20 per cent of the world's poorest live".

"Hindsight shows us that the Western political system, which is not inherently problematic and was designed to encourage freedom, would have been incompatible to a country where efficiency has driven remarkable economic growth and social development," state-run Xinhua news agency said in a commentary.

"Further, China's feat of becoming the first developing country to halve its population living in poverty would have never been accomplished. Half of the 1.3-billion population may have been recipients of foreign aid, making it a huge burden on the world," it said.

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"At best, China would have been another India, the world's biggest democracy by Western standards, where around 20 per cent of the world's poorest live and whose democracy focuses on how power is divided," the commentary said, mocking the democratic political system in India.

"In 2014, India registered a per capital GDP equal to a mere quarter of China's GDP," it said. State-run China Daily which carried Xinhua's commentary as editorial omitted references to India.

"Or, China could have become certain African democratic country that has struggled with civil wars, military junta, coup d'etats and the curse of resources for decades following the end of Western colonial rule in the 1960s," it said.

"The ongoing annual session of the National People's Congress (NPC) China's top legislature, provides a suitable backdrop to reflect upon the country's 61-year-old fundamental political system," it said.

It shrugged off the image of a rubber stamp parliament for its 3,000-strong member NPC for its routine adoption of bills put forward by the ruling Communist Party of China (CPC). NPC is currently holding its 10-day annual session.

"Seemingly endless political bickering, inherent in the Western model, would have resulted in political dysfunction, which in turn would have had catastrophic repercussions for a nation with a population four times as large as the United States," the Xinhua commentary said.

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"Should China have adopted a system that facilitated lobbying among interest groups, it would have been caught in a self-perpetuating cycle of endless debates.

"Should China's mainstream political parties have been fiscally irresponsible and pursued interventionist policies globally, like in the United States, the People's Liberation Army (PLA) would have received an inflated military budget — at the expense of development projects.

"This situation would have fed nationalist sentiment, and wars would be imminent. This would have only been good news for opportunists and arms dealers, who would have rushed to cash in on the unrest," it said.

A system that allows plurality is fertile ground for election rigging, vote buying and the silencing of minorities.

In a country as ethnically and geographically diverse as China, the fires of opposition would have been stoked and divided the nation, it said.


China mocks India's democratic system - The Times of India

Well grapes are sour......

 

[rcrmj]

only few trips to india to know how the country runs in daily life you'd know its an incoherent country has nothing to do with modern sense of fair and justice````

but those dwellers delusion is way beyond others comprehension
India is more like those feudal societies we learnt from books

 

[indianBong]

Looks like insecurity of China will never change. After all the mainland real Chinese people were ruled by midget nations , small traders etc for only god knows how long they were been slaved . So now with lots of money and with bullying small nations or even playing as a big brother for failed states China trying to reassure it's people that those days are long gone. But as people use to say . " You can't straighten a dog's tail"

Insecure Chinese establishment know :

-it's people want to have more Accountability ,
- freedom to live a life of their choice,

- More justice to a common man
More over accountability in Military Spending .

Now this is the problem . There are lots of dirt under Communist Party . With democracy and human rights China will be shattered in to many different countries. So China compares with 2014 GDP of India . Which really under performed but what CPC will say in 2015-2016 when Chinese GDP will be reduced to 6%_7% when Indian GDP to exceeds 7.5% as per the IMF itself . Many have predicted a sustainable growth of 8-10 % for the next few decades for India . As new investment are pouring in after the new government took over in the mid 2014 . India already surpassed China in Service Industry . With new push for make in India Chinese will be just another country residing next to the Fastest growing economy , peaceful and prosperous world's largest independent democracy . Power of democracy is more powerful than dictatorship .

Same old Tortoise and Rabbit Race .

Conclusion : Slow and steady democracy of India is much heavenly than Fast and Steroids boosted Bubble Economy with No FREEDOM or democracy . Basic Human instinct is to be free . So one day or other this create armed revolution in China if GDP keeps sinking.

well maybe that system suits them.... for us democracy is only solution... India has numerous different culture, language, religion, provinces... we need democracy to keep them together.....compared to china where ethnicity language are common almost....

 

[A$HU]

China mocks,america humiliates Europeans are calling us all rapist hmm is it some sort of a global conspiracy against india?or maybe it is that we are indeed "wrong"and India is not so perfect as we pretend it to be?

Get a life false flag.You have already been busted.Still shameless.

So, now your AAP wants Communism?

who says India is perfect ? It is people like you who feel great when China mocks,america humiliates , Europeans call us rapists, boz you are apologetic of being Indian

He is a false flag.He has already been busted in another thread.

 

[thesolar65]

Still I can call my PM CM BC MC and get away with!!

 

[Ind4Ever]

Regarding accountability, how do you define it?

Being we are both developing nations, we face, or faced some of the same problems, like electricity availability, free running water, transportation systems, cleanliness, pollution, social security, corruption, progressive laws and more.

If we are to look at accountability in terms of how these are tackled.

India is not actively pursuing a stronger environmental agency and rule of law in this area, while China is shutting down factories, combining state owned companies to reduce redundancies, planting trees and grass to combat sand storms, and more enforcement power to the environmental agencies while also actively taking suggestions and talking about the problem, as well as signing deals with the world to reduce pollution.

In terms of cleanliness, massive hirings of street cleaners, building more modern restrooms and placing more garbage cans.

in terms of social security, we are spending more and more on health care, currently 95% have access to a plan and there are monthly visits to remote areas by the PLA medical teams to provide medical care.

In terms of rule of law, now courts answer to the next level up instead of direct party apparatus, gay rights, women's rights, and other rights have been implemented. One child policy is relaxed and will soon become a three child policy. Reducing red tape, experimental Free trade zones for less red tape and less restrictions.

In terms of needs for a modern life, electricity generation and per capita as well as running water are being provided at a astonishing rate and reaching deep into the poor central China regions.

In terms of transportation...Enough said.

In terms of corruption, I'm not saying India is worse, but would you be willing to bet your life India's corruption problems are being handled in a way that's making a dent? Chinese corruption drive has been hailed as successful, though much much work is still needed. To date, hundreds of thousands of party officials are either warned, jailed, or executed. With better rule of law, more transparency being implemented as we speak.


So once again, accountability. What do you mean exactly. What actions would be defined as accountable to you?

See don't play the victim card here. Let's call black a black so don't beat around the bush . China can't say anything about corruption in India . Because after the new government India actually now trailing China in corruption as per the Internal Anti corruption Agency. More over the corruption getting exposed are very minimum in China. Can you say there is now secret defence projects which involves zero corruption ? How many of you (people of China) knew about secret Russian projects for Chinese defence forces . And how much do you think China paid to the Russians ? Any accountability ? Some times I feel that this whole hysteria of war is just a camouflage for more kickbacks and more corruption . And legally binding to do more unaccounted defence projects. Don't you think it just take some amount to the official to select underperformed weapons of private company in large numbers ?

And some (many) private companies with no regards to the Chinese environment where given clearance ? Which in turned 20-30% of agricultural soil into a poison ?

Let's not beat around the bush . Let's go in a high way. Let's not fool ourselves anymore. Corruption still thriving in Chinese society very nuk and corner .

Atleast the top level corruption is been put to an end India . Before we also had some priks in government bodies bought dumb shit weapon systems like artillery , choppers , fighters , even in Coffin of the soldiers and Housing for the Brave hearts widows. But the only difference is our democracy

Did you see my point. Now since we have democracy every single scam will get exposed as opposition looking for some sort of mugs to throw at ruling party. So the law will take its own course . Who is opposing Communist in China ? Will they ever survive after challenging the Chinese top authority ?

I guess not . So its high time people of China will look towards India . The world's largest democracy with largest diversity and harmony than any country in the world. 1.2 billion people elect our leaders . In future our people be more educated and it will result in electing very capable leader. If there were democracy in China . These bullying would had been stopped and friendship and peaceful rise of China will be seen as more responsible . Since you don't have democracy where all give there opinion in the interest of their people . Instead in China if any one of a dictator is crazy or rogue or very much less capable then China can in deep trouble. But why ? Due to some communist leader wanted to . In this case u already on this path . You made any enemies than friends. This is not even a good strategy . Super powers and great military actions are carried under deep secrecy until the day has come. But shouting like We will attack you or we will strike you or invade will make your enemies even more stronger.

 

[ManavKalia]

It is tiring to repeat the same thing over and over. But, since you seem to be genuine, I'll try again.

First of all, the "everyone has a say" is one of the most misleading cliche used by democracy radicals. It is never true. It is only "those with money and connections have a say".

Secondly, if by "everyone has a say" you mean everyone can vote, then 1/1,100,000,000 is as good as zero. Indians invented the concept of zero, you should have no problem understanding the significance of that number. Do you really believe that you "Koovie" personally can change anything your government is doing? Think zero then you get the right answer.

Thirdly, everyone is not a politician. In the modern world, for a country as vast and complex as India, one man one vote is precisely what you do NOT want. You need real capable leaders, not actors or talkers. Finding such leaders is extremely difficult. And it's made even harder by the Bollywood style elections that allow every layman to participate. That's why in 60+ years of independence India has never found a truly great politician who has the extra-ordinary (but required) vision and courage to lead your country (Modi remains to be seen).

Finally, and this is the real kicker. The concept of "everyone has a say" creates an elusion that things are fair, and you are "free". This is very detrimental to your improvement. The voters may not like their incompetent leaders but they are okay with the process because they feel the system is "fair". The elected leaders always feel they are entitled because they represent "the people". So if things don't work, everyone just blame the leaders and fancy electing another group of leaders in the next election. No one will think of fixing the "system". It's like drug, when it's time you have to take it.

you're missing the moot point here.. democracy is not prefect, and has it's own share of problems..

but it is far better than dictatorships and communism, regardless of wealth or health of the economy.. human life is meant to be free, and the average democratic citizen is much more free than their communist counterparts..

Chinese are not free to choose their own government, not free to criticize their own government, not free in even basic human right to reproduce as they want to, which right even animals have..

apart from pitying them this absence of basic freedoms, I don't think anyone should waste much time in arguing with them, the average Chinese citizen is super frustrated, and it will implode their political system one day.. it is just a question of how many Tiananmen squares it'll take..

 

[Ind4Ever]

well maybe that system suits them.... for us democracy is only solution... India has numerous different culture, language, religion, provinces... we need democracy to keep them together.....compared to china where ethnicity language are common almost....

Definitely not . We are wrong . Even there were lots of languages in China. You will be surprised to know that the similarities between India and China is so interconnected . Like all sort racial discrimination , ethnic riots , fight between mainland people and the rest, Hong Kong vs rest. Etc. More over The number of individual languages listed for China is 297. All are living languages. Of these, 15 are institutional, 23 are developing, 100 are vigorous, 127 are in trouble, and 32 are dying . Many smaller communities are been suppressed by the Govt. What do you think about military rule could be that too under Communist ? If they decide to kill you there is nothing will stop them . As whole system will legaly support it. In the name of patriotism.

 

[Screambowl]

It is tiring to repeat the same thing over and over. But, since you seem to be genuine, I'll try again.

First of all, the "everyone has a say" is one of the most misleading cliche used by democracy radicals. It is never true. It is only "those with money and connections have a say".

Secondly, if by "everyone has a say" you mean everyone can vote, then 1/1,100,000,000 is as good as zero. Indians invented the concept of zero, you should have no problem understanding the significance of that number. Do you really believe that you "Koovie" personally can change anything your government is doing? Think zero then you get the right answer.

Thirdly, everyone is not a politician. In the modern world, for a country as vast and complex as India, one man one vote is precisely what you do NOT want. You need real capable leaders, not actors or talkers. Finding such leaders is extremely difficult. And it's made even harder by the Bollywood style elections that allow every layman to participate. That's why in 60+ years of independence India has never found a truly great politician who has the extra-ordinary (but required) vision and courage to lead your country (Modi remains to be seen).

Finally, and this is the real kicker. The concept of "everyone has a say" creates an elusion that things are fair, and you are "free". This is very detrimental to your improvement. The voters may not like their incompetent leaders but they are okay with the process because they feel the system is "fair". The elected leaders always feel they are entitled because they represent "the people". So if things don't work, everyone just blame the leaders and fancy electing another group of leaders in the next election. No one will think of fixing the "system". It's like drug, when it's time you have to take it.

The policy to implement infrastructural development has been ignored. This is where India lacks. Thus the boost in economy is slow. I hope this government will fix the bugs and put more effort on establishing the infrastructure.

 

[Manindra]

Chinese should also put achievement of pre Deng Xiaoping era communist rule of China.

 

[indianBong]

Definitely not . We are wrong . Even there were lots of languages in China. You will be surprised to know that the similarities between India and China is so interconnected . Like all sort racial discrimination , ethnic riots , fight between mainland people and the rest, Hong Kong vs rest. Etc. More over The number of individual languages listed for China is 297. All are living languages. Of these, 15 are institutional, 23 are developing, 100 are vigorous, 127 are in trouble, and 32 are dying . Many smaller communities are been suppressed by the Govt. What do you think about military rule could be that too under Communist ? If they decide to kill you there is nothing will stop them . As whole system will legaly support it. In the name of patriotism.

Ya i know how communism works.. had them in power for 30yrs in WB..
On topic:...if in india we had a military regime many more bangladesh would have been created..... we are inheritedly against any autocratic govt....wheras whole china was ruled by dynasties...

 

[SrNair]

Another genius we have here.

China's GDP is so much larger than India's that even if they grow at 5% and India at 7%, China is still adding more in GDP per year than India. Growth rates mean nothing.

I can say an appreciation in that article .Around two decades ago we had 70% poverty .Now its is just reduced to 20%.
Now guys in here can judge whether it is good or bad.

On topic :For the first time I can sense a fear or insecurity in the Chinese establishment when they compared with India .Democracy is slow but it is superstable and combined with nationalism.it is invincible.
We Indians cant allow an authoritarian regime like that in Chinese in here.Our basic nature wont allow oppression.

If some one gives me a choice of authoriatarian and Democracy .I would opt democracy .US could survived two wars and recession because of its democracy.
Here by writing these self consoling article Chinese just revealed their fear the success of India with its democratic way.

Says the travel ban on your fanatical leader that was placed on him for more than a decade.

Cry me a river

Dont cry like this.
And who told you that we didnt had any visionary leaders.Yes we had .the PM who started ISRO,BARC.Another PM that decimated our rival in to two.Yes we had visionary leaders.

It is tiring to repeat the same thing over and over. But, since you seem to be genuine, I'll try again.

First of all, the "everyone has a say" is one of the most misleading cliche used by democracy radicals. It is never true. It is only "those with money and connections have a say".

Secondly, if by "everyone has a say" you mean everyone can vote, then 1/1,100,000,000 is as good as zero. Indians invented the concept of zero, you should have no problem understanding the significance of that number. Do you really believe that you "Koovie" personally can change anything your government is doing? Think zero then you get the right answer.

Thirdly, everyone is not a politician. In the modern world, for a country as vast and complex as India, one man one vote is precisely what you do NOT want. You need real capable leaders, not actors or talkers. Finding such leaders is extremely difficult. And it's made even harder by the Bollywood style elections that allow every layman to participate. That's why in 60+ years of independence India has never found a truly great politician who has the extra-ordinary (but required) vision and courage to lead your country (Modi remains to be seen).

Finally, and this is the real kicker. The concept of "everyone has a say" creates an elusion that things are fair, and you are "free". This is very detrimental to your improvement. The voters may not like their incompetent leaders but they are okay with the process because they feel the system is "fair". The elected leaders always feel they are entitled because they represent "the people". So if things don't work, everyone just blame the leaders and fancy electing another group of leaders in the next election. No one will think of fixing the "system". It's like drug, when it's time you have to take it.

 

[Ind4Ever]

Ya i know how communism works.. had them in power for 30yrs in WB..
On topic:...if in india we had a military regime many more bangladesh would have been created..... we are inheritedly against any autocratic govt....wheras whole china was ruled by dynasties...

If we had military regime we might had annexed more Bangladesh . To be frank. Resources will poured in for weapons and strength will be increased for the future goal.

 

[Steakhouse]

China government just told the world to shove democracy up the malnourish Indian @ss then ask the Indian how after 64 yrs of democracy work out for them, 20 percent of the world women malnourished are Indian, democracy couldn't afford to feed the Indian women over 64 yrs, why on earth China should follow democracy way of government?

 

[Ind4Ever]

China government just told the world to shove democracy up the malnourish Indian @ss then ask the Indian how after 64 yrs of democracy work out for them, 20 percent of the world women malnourished are Indian, democracy couldn't afford to feed the Indian women over 64 yrs, why on earth China should follow democracy way of government?

Yes yes Un democracy China has became super power . AND no Chinese are poor now. All having shares in micro soft and other companies

Poor Indians don't have food to feed it's population ...

Whaaaaat !!!