China misread India’s decisions on J&K’s status, says External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar

[beijingwalker]

China misread India’s decisions on J&K’s status, says External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar
After the August 5 decision, Beijing had said that making Ladakh a Union territory was unacceptable.

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File photo of S Jaishankar. | Prakash Singh/AFP

External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar on Wednesday said China had misinterpreted India’s decision to abrogate Jammu and Kashmir’s special status and bifurcate it into Union territories, reported ANI. After the August 5 decision of the Centre, Beijing had said that making Ladakh a Union territory was unacceptable.

“I think the Chinese misread what was happening there,” said Jaishankar, who is in New York City for a United Nations summit. “I went a few days after the legislation to China and explained to them that as far as they were concerned, nothing had changed. India’s boundary had not changed, the Line of Actual Control had not changed.”

Jaishankar reiterated that the Kashmir move has no implications for India’s external boundaries. “We are sort of reformatting this within our existing boundaries,” he added. India and China have a 3,488-km-long border between them. The two countries have so far held 21 rounds of talks between special representatives to resolve the boundary dispute.

Earlier this month, Beijing had said it was following the situation in Jammu and Kashmir closely and opposed any unilateral actions that would complicate matters. In a joint statement with Pakistan, China called for the conflict in Kashmir to be resolved peacefully on the basis of United Nations Charter, relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions and bilateral agreements.

China, a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council and an ally of Pakistan, had sought a “closed-doors” meeting to discuss the developments in Jammu and Kashmir on August 16. The meeting had ended without any outcome or statement from the council.

Tensions between India and Pakistan have ratcheted up since New Delhi revoked Jammu and Kashmir’s special status on August 5. Pakistan, which has fought three wars with India for Kashmir since Independence, did not take the decision well.


Jaishankar on Wednesday accused Pakistan of creating an entire industry of terrorism to deal with the Kashmir dispute. “In my view, it’s actually bigger than Kashmir, I think they have created it for India,” he said. Jaishankar added that India was open to talks with Pakistan but not “terroristan”.

Jaishankar said Pakistan’s reaction to India’s Kashmir move was one of anger and frustration. Asked about the precondition for Kashmir talks with Pakistan, Jaishankar said, “I think we are getting this wrong. First of all Pakistan has to do something for its own good and if it does that, it would enable a normal neighbourly relationship with India, he said.

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[Foxtrot Delta]

This mofo has no idea ... that ladakh and leh are chinese territories. and hence chinese are upset. its not indian territory ladakh is part of tibet province since hundreds of years only british took parts form tibet in 1850s. the border with ladakh is not final and chinese will take all lakes and water bodies of ladakh with qing dynasty territorial claim. boundry has not changed that's the problem,, it should be returned to china asap along with arunachal pradesh.

as soon as india signs a treaty of friendship and hands over chinese land back to chinese like pakistan did and russia did years back. india can be a friend. for now india is occupying chinese land.

 

[IceCold]

Jaishankar on Wednesday accused Pakistan of creating an entire industry of terrorism to deal with the Kashmir dispute. “In my view, it’s actually bigger than Kashmir, I think they have created it for India,” he said. Jaishankar added that India was open to talks with Pakistan but not “terroristan”.

**** You rapistan.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

This mofo has no idea ... that ladakh and leh are chinese territories. and hence chinese are upset. its not indian territory ladakh is part of tibet province since hundreds of years only british took parts form tibet in 1850s. the border with ladakh is not final and chinese will take all lakes and water bodies of ladakh with qing dynasty territorial claim. boundry has not changed that's the problem,, it should be returned to china asap along with arunachal pradesh.

as soon as india signs a treaty of friendship and hands over chinese land back to chinese like pakistan did and russia did years back. india can be a friend. for now india is occupying chinese land.

Kargil belongs to Pakistan

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

Kargil belongs to Pakistan

pakistan and china have a common Map. its in the archieves of communist party of china. they have agreed on a border with pakistan once kashmir is under control of china or pakistan both parties will abide by the map agreed upon in september 1963

according to my knowledge this is qing dynasty 1400s map claim by chinese. but they agreed in 1963 to let go of some of the claims on gilgit baltistan regions like hunza, sakardu etc so new border was formed international border . once pakistan or china controls parts controlled by india they already have a mechanism and maps to agree upon made back in 1963.
you just need to look at qing dynasty map and see chinese claims. taiwan, hongkong, south china sea islands, parts of mongolia, krgystan and tajikistan , india fall into chinese claims. just look at 1400 qing dynasty map u will see what is chinese land.

Even Bangladesh belongs to Pakistan

people decide who belongs to who. bangladeshiz decided for a free country.

let's ask kargil population shall we?

 

[Crixus]

Sure so when are you coming to ask them ?

let's ask kargil population shall we?

 

[zeeshe100]

we lost near to 3% of Kashmir to india in 1971 war

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

Sure so when are you coming to ask them ?

we im just 105 km away but i think indains will ask them , by themselves before we muslims have to come inside indian controlled territory. its better if india asks themselves. that's what we want since 1947. all u have to do is ask them and see the answer they throw at ur black indian faces.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

I asked them they want Pakistan to fight for their liberation but now they are angry as Pakistan is backing out to liberate them , they said fight is only going on Twitter and we don’t want independence only on Twitter .

You Muslims are welcome to ask them.

just FYI during Kargil the locals in Kargil region were the one who revealed the intrusion by Pakistani army

we all have black sheep. some boys gave info who were loyal to india. every society has black sheep. all it takes is 1 person to talk. that's why covert operations should be secret.

 

[Crixus]

Even the people of Kargil were the one who punctured the operation Gibraltor in 1965 , the population of Kargil in mainly Shia and they are even worried about the sunni majority valley and Pakistan .... may be the they ethnic reason to not support Pakistan in their past adventures

we all have black sheep. some boys gave info who were loyal to india. every society has black sheep. all it takes is 1 person to talk. that's why covert operations should be secret.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

Even the people of Kargil were the one who punctured the operation Gibraltor in 1965 , the population of Kargil in mainly Shia and they are even worried about the sunni majority valley and Pakistan .... may be the they ethnic reason to not support Pakistan in their past adventures

Shia sunni crap is for 18 year old kids only... Or arabs and iranians.

We in pakistan are muslims and to us shia in iran or sunni in arabia are equal brothers ... What makes u think shia of kashmir or india are different than to us?

I was born in sunni house hold... People call us sunni i hate the label.... Shia or sunni most of us in pakistan don't care about shia sunni divide only 18 year old kids get worked up about it when fueled...


Go sell that shia crap to arabs or iranians we pakistanz are not primitive minded people... You think of muslims of south asia very pathetic and narrow minded while reality will surprise u.

Also to my observation Shia are more islamic and pro pakistan than sunniz in pakistan and i think it is the same in kashmir... keep watching something big is coming ur way....

U guys believe in karma ... Wait for it.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

pakistan and china have a common Map. its in the archieves of communist party of china. they have agreed on a border with pakistan once kashmir is under control of china or pakistan both parties will abide by the map agreed upon in september 1963

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according to my knowledge this is qing dynasty 1400s map claim by chinese. but they agreed in 1963 to let go of some of the claims on gilgit baltistan regions like hunza, sakardu etc so new border was formed international border . once pakistan or china controls parts controlled by india they already have a mechanism and maps to agree upon made back in 1963.
you just need to look at qing dynasty map and see chinese claims. taiwan, hongkong, south china sea islands, parts of mongolia, krgystan and tajikistan , india fall into chinese claims. just look at 1400 qing dynasty map u will see what is chinese land.


people decide who belongs to who. bangladeshiz decided for a free country.

let's ask kargil population shall we?

Wtf? So give up the people of GB? That is absolutely insane!! That map is unacceptable, the qing empire died, and China is a new country that cant claim its territories, period!

Hell that maps takes part of KPK, I think it's time to bring out maps older then the qing empire, if China wants to play that game. The ancient empire based in KPK controlled Xinjiang thus making Xinjiang Pakistani territory

 

[moweike]

Wtf? So give up the people of GB? That is absolutely insane!! That map is unacceptable, the qing empire died, and China is a new country that cant claim its territories, period!

Hell that maps takes part of KPK, I think it's time to bring out maps older then the qing empire, if China wants to play that game. The ancient empire based in KPK controlled Xinjiang thus making Xinjiang Pakistani territory

The ancient empire based in KPK controlled Xinjiang thus making Xinjiang Pakistani territory-----------------Come on, child

 

[Crixus]

I am not selling anything to you but in Kargil this is the reality , Kargil is 97% Shia and valley is almost 100% sunni .
Kargil might support Iran more then Pakistan not sure about future but in past actions of residents of Kargil were more pro India then Pakistan .
Again question is what Pakistan has done in last 50 days to help Kashmirs other then tweets and Kashmiris know how you sold Taliban during their time of crisis

How you reached to conclusion that I believe in Karma ?

Shia sunni crap is for 18 year old kids only... Or arabs and iranians.

We in pakistan are muslims and to us shia in iran or sunni in arabia are equal brothers ... What makes u think shia of kashmir or india are different than to us?

I was born in sunni house hold... People call us sunni i hate the label.... Shia or sunni most of us in pakistan don't care about shia sunni divide only 18 year old kids get worked up about it when fueled...


Go sell that shia crap to arabs or iranians we pakistanz are not primitive minded people... You think of muslims of south asia very pathetic and narrow minded while reality will surprise u.

Also to my observation Shia are more islamic and pro pakistan than sunniz in pakistan and i think it is the same in kashmir... keep watching something big is coming ur way....

U guys believe in karma ... Wait for it.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

I am not selling anything to you but in Kargil this is the reality , Kargil is 97% Shia and valley is almost 100% sunni .
Kargil might support Iran more then Pakistan not sure about future but in past actions of residents of Kargil were more pro India then Pakistan .
Again question is what Pakistan has done in last 50 days to help Kashmirs other then tweets and Kashmiris know how you sold Taliban during their time of crisis

How you reached to conclusion that I believe in Karma ?

you say shia and sunni as if they are oppsitie forces. in pakistan we don't care for divisions. even if they are sunni or shia we are all muslims. pakistan is for muslims not shia or sunni.. or one group. its for Muslims!

Wtf? So give up the people of GB? That is absolutely insane!! That map is unacceptable, the qing empire died, and China is a new country that cant claim its territories, period!

Hell that maps takes part of KPK, I think it's time to bring out maps older then the qing empire, if China wants to play that game. The ancient empire based in KPK controlled Xinjiang thus making Xinjiang Pakistani territory

don't worry it has already been agreed upon by pakistan and china in 1963 whatever was needed to be given was given and what was to be taken has been taken. now its all about indian controlled territory. chinese made concessions for pakistan and pakistan made concessions for chinese. and Qing dynasty map is the real map of china. Qing Made china. otherwise its just a group of nations who want to be divided and will start fighting again. Qing Dynasty china is the ultimate aim.

pakistan and china have an understanding over this. there is no issue.

Wtf? So give up the people of GB? That is absolutely insane!! That map is unacceptable, the qing empire died, and China is a new country that cant claim its territories, period!

Hell that maps takes part of KPK, I think it's time to bring out maps older then the qing empire, if China wants to play that game. The ancient empire based in KPK controlled Xinjiang thus making Xinjiang Pakistani territory

Xinjiang was chinese all the time. those who differ are fools. Pakistan is a chinese ally and pakistan and china will always look out for each other.

Muslim regions will to Pakistan. Buddist regions go into tibet province of china. india is illegally occupying the land of china and pakistan. its just a british fuckup... british made a mess in the region.

also pakistan and afghanistan techincally were 1 country . had northern indian parts in it. i think history will repeat itself.