China mega-tech drives Bangladesh mega highway

[Destranator]

We need decentralisation stat, people wouldn't need to visit Dhaka for even the most mundane of government related tasks then.


Heard a whole dedicated secretariat is being built on a char in Chittagong, which is welcome news, alot of ministries will be transferred here including the ones related to trade, export, industry and the sorts...


Let's see how it goes.

We need decentralisation stat, people wouldn't need to visit Dhaka for even the most mundane of government related tasks then.


Heard a whole dedicated secretariat is being built on a char in Chittagong, which is welcome news, alot of ministries will be transferred here including the ones related to trade, export, industry and the sorts...


Let's see how it goes.

That could be a start but we need at least one self sufficient industrial zone (spread out over districts) in each division - people should not have to leave their division to obtain any essential services. We also need at least one internationally certified trade/vocational + English Language training institute in each upazilla.

Bangladesh is primed for heavy industrialisation - we just need to unleash the potential by fixing shitty road infrastructure, governance, urban planning and skills shortage.

 

[Bilal9]

I think it should be ok and this is just a bypass road to allow traffic to travel from Chittagong to Sylhet without going through Dhaka

The whole Sylhet district has just 13-14 million people.

Industries are mainly natural gas extraction, farming and tourism. There are a few IT parks that have been built or will be built.

The government is widening the current 2 lane road to a 6 lane highway from Dhaka to Sylhet that I think should be ready by 2024/2025.

Little by little the government is implementing the plan to have a world-class infrastructure system in place by 2036.

I'd agree with @UKBengali bhai.

Even in the US (and EU/UK as well) not all highways outside of major urban areas are more than 4-lane for normal traffic (not talking about Urban access-controlled freeways in the US or in the UK "M" motorways which sometimes have six lanes on each side).

But all highways in developed countries do have extra parking space on the side almost equal to a third lane for disabled vehicles. Which is the case here.

 

[AmiEktaKharapChele]

That could be a start but we need at least one self sufficient industrial zone (spread out over districts) in each division - people should not have to leave their division to obtain any essential services. We also need at least one internationally certified trade/vocational + English Language training institute in each upazilla.

Bangladesh is primed for heavy industrialisation - we just need to unleash the potential by fixing shitty road infrastructure, governance, urban planning and skills shortage.

lol... Kanglus have more interest in learning Hindi by watching Bollywood than learning to speak English well...


I have a lot of young people in my extended family and all of them are more intent on learning Hindi than brushing up their English.


I speak Hindi fluently (written as well) and English too, obviously.... Never in my time in Bangladesh has someone asked me to help them with their English or converse with them in English but everyone wants me to teach/translate/speak to them in Hindi...



Just about shows you where our people's priorities lie... Fucking clowns.




Should ban all sorts of Indian/Hindi media.

 

[Bilal9]

Routing everything through Dhaka makes a hub and spoke topology which is why there is heavy congestion in Dhaka. It's a moronic design. Someone from Satkhira trying to go to Chittagong must go to Dhaka first and then go to Chittagong, just try to visualize it in the map.

There are geological issues too. Meghna during the monsoon is 12 miles from shore to shore. You cannot go from Satkhira to Chittagong by road, you have to travel by river, then by sea (marine vessel) which is much more direct. There are ferries all over the world that do this, closest example is an island nation like Indonesia.

Like @Destranator bhai said, we can also build tunnels to ease the travel from say Chandpur to ManikGanj, then to places like Barisal and Satkhira. But that has to make Business Sense. Just to build things for hundreds of millions of dollars when there is no industry needing that logistics boost is pointless.

It's like those idiots screaming, "Fenitey Int'l airport chai!". What the hell for??

Infrastructure is not some "Murir Moa" that whomever wants it, will get it.

It has to make business sense, now and into the future.

 

[BananaRepublicUK]

There are geological issues too. Meghna during the monsoon is 12 miles from shore to shore. You cannot go from Satkhira to Chittagong by road, you have to travel by river, then by sea (marine vessel) which is much more direct. There are ferries all over the world that do this, closest example is an island nation like Indonesia.

Like @Destranator bhai said, we can also build tunnels to ease the travel from say Chandpur to ManikGanj, then to places like Barisal and Satkhira.

Is a tunnel not feasible?

 

[Destranator]

Is a tunnel not feasible?

Tunnels yes, bridges no.

 

[BananaRepublicUK]

Tunnels yes, bridges no.

I think BD should build more tunnels. Good way to save land. Especially on bypass and approach roads.

It’s more expensive in short term but we need to save land.

 

[Destranator]

I think BD should build more tunnels. Good way to save land. Especially on bypass and approach roads.

It’s more expensive in short term but we need to save land.

Choosing tunnels over bridges won't save you land. You need proper approach infrastructure to avoid congestions and flooding of tunnels during monsoon.
What BD needs is planned infrastructure growth. Unplanned residential and commercial infrastructure should be demolished if they get in the way of transportation systems.
Agreed that tunnelling is more expensive to build per km compared to bridges but they are more secure structurally (lower seismic load compared to bridges) and less obstructive to river navigation.

 

[BananaRepublicUK]

Choosing tunnels over bridges won't save you land. You need proper approach infrastructure to avoid congestions and flooding of tunnels during monsoon.
What BD needs is planned infrastructure growth. Unplanned residential and commercial infrastructure should be demolished if they get in the way of transportation systems.
Agreed that tunnelling is more expensive to build per km compared to bridges but they are more secure structurally (lower seismic load compared to bridges) and less obstructive to river navigation.

In NY parts of their subway is literally few meters below ground. Ditto some of their bypasses.

Above ground, nice and clean open space.

 

[Destranator]

In NY parts of their subway is literally few meters below ground. Ditto some of their bypasses.

Above ground, nice and clean open space.

City/suburban underground rail ("subways", etc.) and cross river tunnels are completely different ball games.

 

[BananaRepublicUK]

City/suburban underground rail ("subways", etc.) and cross river tunnels are completely different ball games.

I think we are agreed - we need more tunnels.

 

[Bilal9]

Is a tunnel not feasible?

They are, but depends on ROI.

One has to see the return, now and in the future.

Tunnel under the English channel made eminent business sense. Look at how many people avoid the hovercraft trip or air-trip which can depend on the fickleness of bad English weather.

So did the Karnaphuli tunnel which connected North Chittagong coast to South Chittagong coast where KAFCO, large shipyards and Korean EPZ are, on the way to Dohazari and CXB down the line (where Matarbari port is). These are all new industrialization EPZ areas.

Where are the industrial areas in Satkhira or ManikGanj? If Patuakhali or Satkhira EPZ's develop, they will all have Payra port to export containers from. Same with ManikGanj which may have a river container port built at some point.

You don't need a tunnel just for connecting to Dhaka. Dhaka even has a inland river container port which is hardly saturated.

Padma Bridge will help for now, at some point a tunnel will be built to connect Khulna, Mongla etc. upriver from there, to take advantage of low cost labor near Mongla EPZ etc. Mongla EPZ containers can leave from Mongla Port as well, which are being expanded.

For a small country - we have built plenty of infra and have Tons of shipping and industrialization options......

I think we are agreed - we need more tunnels.

We will have feasibility studies done before building them and we will have them when the Return on Investments (ROI) make sense.

 

[Bengal71]

There are geological issues too. Meghna during the monsoon is 12 miles from shore to shore. You cannot go from Satkhira to Chittagong by road, you have to travel by river, then by sea (marine vessel) which is much more direct. There are ferries all over the world that do this, closest example is an island nation like Indonesia.

Like @Destranator bhai said, we can also build tunnels to ease the travel from say Chandpur to ManikGanj, then to places like Barisal and Satkhira. But that has to make Business Sense. Just to build things for hundreds of millions of dollars when there is no industry needing that logistics boost is pointless.

It's like those idiots screaming, "Fenitey Int'l airport chai!". What the hell for??

Infrastructure is not some "Murir Moa" that whomever wants it, will get it.

It has to make business sense, now and into the future.

We don't need bridges and highways connecting every city but the country can be roughly divided into four, north-west, north-east, south-west and south-east and there should be direct connectivity between them instead of everything going through Dhaka. It will make business sense if we did not have a Dhaka centric development model. If we setup industries (even SEZs) in the south-west part of the country, their poroducts must go through Dhaka to reach Chittagong to be exported. If there was a bridge or tunnel connecting south-west and south-east then they can simply bypass Dhaka, it will also reduce congestion.

As a high-level topology this image should work. Those lines where going over rivers need tunnels or bridges, over land need highways.