I'd rather watch the show as Indians pretend to be nicey nice to the Chinese while burning up with jealousy and frustration.
You're doing more than just 'watching'. Take your own advice.
The average Indian living in India knows what India is, they live in it. We have many more hurdles to overcome but we have taken immense strides. India is optimistic, we are a nation that is trying and we have something to show for it.
The US/Russian posturing in 1971 was strictly for show. Neither superpower was going to get directly involved in the war. From Ayub's time, we knew the US was not a reliable ally and had no serious expectations from them.
So you're saying that Pakistan hasn't gone crawling to the Islamic nations or the Chinese for help during a war?
With 7x the resources, India has always had a stronger military.
True that. And to think that we weren't the ones to start a war in 1999 that too AFTER nuclear weapons were tested. Nice. So who's the aggressor here again?
Yes, let's not. Seeing as that's when India begged Israel to come bail them out in Kargil.
Yes, India knows how to maintain its strategic relations. We have had some fantastic diplomatic victories recently in case you haven't noticed.
You better thank your stars that Israel gave India the laser guided munitions needed to dislodge the PA. The GoP did not have the courage to admit that the soldiers were its own. Had India not succeeded, the war could have spread beyond Kashmir and before you knew it Pakistan could have been held responsible for initiating NUCLEAR war in the subcontinent.
what the hell were they thinking? does someone not understand how nuclear weapons work? how can any sane person think that India is the aggressor? Do you not realize how dangerous and stupid Kargil was? does the war in '65 (also initiated by Pakistan) not ring a bell?
Pakistan has more than enough resources to be self-sufficient, if only the leaders have the guts to remove corruption and enforce taxation.
I don't care about Pakistan's potential, what does Pakistan have to show for itself? There hasn't been an ounce of stability in Pakistan, there have been no reforms, society has become more and more conservative while no one has to guts to challenge the Mullahs. Pakistani society has done nothing to reform itself. I don't mean to be overly critical, but it surprises me as to how you don't see this.
India has its problems, but people challenge and sideline the loonies. You ever read about that underwear incident?
BBC NEWS | South Asia | Underwear protest at India attack
Pakistanis still seemed confused. Read some of the posts here.
I know enough to know that Pakistan exists despite India's refusal to come to terms with our existence.
Yeah, let it out. There, there.
Stop with the victim card already. Pakistan has been far more reckless than India. Although I admit, India has been far more successful. Like you said, we're stronger.
India has done its share of meddling in Pakistani affairs, from East Pakistan to Balochistan and FATA.
You can start the war but you can't decide its course.
Bangladesh was mishandled by Pakistan, although India took advantage of a bad situation. And we notice how India has never dared to try and bully us since we went nuclear (like it does the smaller neighbors).
'Mishandled'? I would call all those deaths more than just 'mishandling'. Shows your mindset nonetheless.
If Pakistan/Pakistanis can initiate war thrice, India can start a war or two of its own.
did you also notice how dangerous and idiotic kargil was? India has shown immense restraint, something Pakistanis always seem to miss. In fact, from your statement, it seems to encourage you.
It's called vigilance. We remember Siachen all too well.
Then your memory isn't long enough. Don't forget about '65, '47 and the insurgency in Kashmir
You must not be paying attention in this forum and elsewhere where we debate Pakistan's internal problems quite candidly. But that doesn't mean that we will ignore the threat next door.
Well has Pakistan done anything to taken on the Mullahs yet, or is it still fighting the symptoms as opposed to the causes?
The diversity of views in Pakistan media is a breath of fresh air compared to the jingoistic tripe that passes for Indian media.
I think Bollywood is improving. I'm glad society is opening up. But the media does seem to be a bit overly dramatic. Its pretty stupid. We do have some good shows though, Compare Karan Thapar to Zaid Hamid and you'll have your answer.
You mean like letting the perpetrators of the Punjab 1984 and Gujarat 2002 massacres go unpunished?
Or stationing 400,000 thugs to terrorize, rape and kill unarmed civilians in 'restive' areas like Kashmir?
Or keep ignoring a violent Naxalite insurgency burning up 20 out of 28 states?
Maoists are about be dealt with. ~80,000 troops are going to be deployed. They're fighting them with propaganda, military and money. They hide in the jungles, there aren't any 'Swats'.
Gujrat:
INDIA Landmark judgement leads to convictions in Gujarat massacre case - Asia News
400,000 thugs! Pakistan doesn't give two hoots about 'Kashmiri independence'. No one buys that.
once again, you're one to talk.
