China local brands brace for onslaught from abroad

[Korean]

Give me the figure then we talk! China also owns Volvo via Geely!

And Geely is $10 billion in debt from the deal and is drowning from debt.

 

[oct605032048]

Geely is only a small company in China's 20 million automobile industry.

SAIC FAW Chang'an BAIC are the real players.

 

[Secur]

Geely is only a small company in China's 20 million automobile industry.

SAIC FAW Chang'an BAIC are the real players.

Whatever helps some sleep at night Ignore and move on !

He started a thread about the Chinese automobile industry and somehow India came in between

 

[Korean]

SAIC FAW Chang'an BAIC are the real players.

Who manufactures millions of cars for foreign OEMs, while their own brand cars sell a few hundreds and languish in the market.

 

[shuttler]

^ do you know what is a JV?

is india your native country's mode of operating their car manufacturing buz much different from China?

Only that we are larger and better!

And you need also to get you figures on Commercial Vehicles for a complete comparison, kiddo!

 

[Sashan]

^ do you know what is a JV?

is india your native country's mode of operating their car manufacturing buz much different from China?

Only that we are larger and better!
And you need also to get you figures on Commercial Vehicles for a complete comparison, kiddo!

Mate - While you can claim you are larger I am not sure about the better portion - I would suggest look at the below top selling cars in both China and India. China has an indigenous car starting at 16 (though there are controversy around it), India has 4 indigenous cars in the top 15. As for commercial vehicles, I do not have time to get the statistics but I know the Tata, which holds its own in the indigenous cars section, signed a JV with Marco Polo to expand its global reach and I am not sure about the other one, M&M, though M&M tractors are best selling tractors in the world as far as I know though it started off as JV with Ford but now it holds its own.

Best Selling Cars Around The Globe: Indian Consumers Love Their Bollywood And The Maruti Suzuki Alto | The Truth About Cars

Top 15 best selling models in India in March 2011:
Pos Model Mar
1 Maruti Alto 38,065
2 Maruti Wagon R 14,885
3 Hyundai i10 14,215
4 Maruti Swift 12,114
5 Maruti DZire 10,278
6 Ford Figo 8,926
7 Tata Nano 8,707
8 Mahindra Bolero 8,237
9 Hyundai Santro 8,026
10 Maruti Omni 7,808
11 Hyundai i20 7,655
12 Tata Indigo/Manza 7,197
13 Tata Indica 6,937
14 Maruti Eeco 6,608
15 Maruti Ritz 6,059



The Top 30 best-selling models in China in September 2011:

Best Selling Cars Around The Globe: China, The Only Country In The World Where A Buick Is Number 1 | The Truth About Cars
Model Sept Units Sept Pos YTD Units YTD Pos
Buick Excelle 27,994 1 191,495 1
VW Lavida 23,852 2 176,362 2
Chevrolet Cruze 23,212 3 162,072 4
Chevrolet Sail 20,958 4 135,548 10
VW Bora 20,195 5 148,138 6
Honda CR-V 20,018 6 108,819 18
VW Jetta 19,819 7 166,210 3
Hyundai Elantra Yuedong 18,800 8 151,803 5
VW Passat 18,043 9 119,161 12
Ford Focus 16,369 10 141,578 9
Nissan Sunny 16,113 11 116,005 13
Hyundai Verna 15,963 12 96,883 23
VW Polo 15,624 13 104,043 20
Toyota Corolla 15,548 14 122,098 11
Nissan Teana 15,193 15 111,685 14
Chery QQ 14,769 16 111,677 15
Honda Accord 14,708 17 109,257 17
FAW Xiali N-Series 14,571 18 142,558 8
BYD F3 13,521 19 145,790 7
VW Tiguan 13,387 20 100,709 22
Toyota Camry 13,345 21 106,282 19
Buick Excelle XT/GT 13,221 22 101,309 21
Great Wall Tengyi C30 12,920 23 109,864 16
Kia Forte Furuidi 12,641 24 94,946 26
Nissan Qashqai 12,514 25 77,814 30
Toyota Corolla EX 12,444 26 83,977 29
Nissan Bluebird Sylphy 11,862 27 96,792 24
Citroen C-Quatre 11,727 28 85,927 28
VW Sagitar 11,589 29 95,998 25
Skoda Octavia 11,250 30 94,863 27



Best Selling Cars Around The Globe: China, The Only Country In The World Where A Buick Is Number 1 | The Truth About Cars

 

[faithfulguy]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but its common for Chinese to desire a bigger American made car because of safety reasons?

 

[miss]

Hyundai is basically garbage. Japan has been limiting the sale of advanced precision machine tools to Hyundai, how can you make good cars?

how, by hand or your Korean cheap labors? funny indeed.

thats a very ill informed stmt. hyundai is one of the best cars for the price. it has constatnly improved in qulauty over the last decade. I wil buy one if i get the chance. in fact japanese cars are coming down in quality.

Indian support to hyundai is always there. !!

 

[faithfulguy]

thats a very ill informed stmt. hyundai is one of the best cars for the price. it has constatnly improved in qulauty over the last decade. I wil buy one if i get the chance. in fact jap cars are coming down in quality.

Inidan support to hyundai is always there. !!

Can you stop using derogatory terms? Post reported.

 

[miss]

^ do you know what is a JV?

is india your native country's mode of operating their car manufacturing buz much different from China?

Only that we are larger and better!

And you need also to get you figures on Commercial Vehicles for a complete comparison, kiddo!

both tata and mahindra autos are better than anything china makes

Can you stop using derogatory terms? Post reported.

lol.. what is derogatory ?

 

[Sashan]

Can you stop using derogatory terms? Post reported.

While I do not defend if it is intentional, I think it is unintentional here. Like people unintentionally use the word "Pariah" which is a derogatory term as I know the background of that word.

 

[shuttler]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but its common for Chinese to desire a bigger American made car because of safety reasons?

safety is one but power, comfort, and prestige and quality of the car are also factors to be considered with the purchases.
Also due to much improved quality and lengths of the infrastructual systems, the folks can enjoy their inter-provincial rides nowadays. So the trend of demands are also reflecting the change in lifestyles.

both tata and mahindra autos are better than anything china makes

i am pretty used to indian's self trumpeting. keep it up dude!

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

lol.. what is derogatory ?

"jap" is a derogatory slur for Japanese

 

[shuttler]

Mate - While you can claim you are larger I am not sure about the better portion - I would suggest look at the below top selling cars in both China and India. China has an indigenous car starting at 16 (though there are controversy around it), India has 4 indigenous cars in the top 15. As for commercial vehicles, I do not have time to get the statistics but I know the Tata, which holds its own in the indigenous cars section, signed a JV with Marco Polo to expand its global reach and I am not sure about the other one, M&M, though M&M tractors are best selling tractors as far as I know though it started off as JV with Ford but now it holds its own.

Best Selling Cars Around The Globe: Indian Consumers Love Their Bollywood And The Maruti Suzuki Alto | The Truth About Cars

Top 15 best selling models in India in March 2011:
Pos Model Mar

7 Tata Nano 8,707
8 Mahindra Bolero 8,237
12 Tata Indigo/Manza 7,197
13 Tata Indica 6,937


The Top 30 best-selling models in China in September 2011:

Best Selling Cars Around The Globe: China, The Only Country In The World Where A Buick Is Number 1 | The Truth About Cars
Model Sept Units Sept Pos YTD Units YTD Pos
Chery QQ 14,769 16 111,677 15
FAW Xiali N-Series 14,571 18 142,558 8
BYD F3 13,521 19 145,790 7
Great Wall Tengyi C30 12,920 23 109,864 16

I have screened off the cars that are produced by JVs. Our local made cars are selling much better than yours obviously. In respect of the overall perspective for passenger cars, we are attracting a whole lot more major top brands to build their factories in China than their presence in india. We are not bragging our indigenous auto industry is the best. But in view of the wide spectrum of foreign auto technologies that are engaging in co-operative production with us plus our own R n D, I am pretty confident a late starter like China can catch up on the fastest lane!

Also on another note, we are contributing a lot more to the revival of the world's economy!

 

[miss]

"jap" is a derogatory slur for Japanese

oic.. didnt know that.. but why is a chinse getting khujli