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China local brands brace for onslaught from abroad | Reuters

China local brands brace for onslaught from abroad
BEIJING | Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:39pm IST

(Reuters) - China's homegrown car makers unveiled a host of new models amid glitzy lights and blaring music at the Beijing auto show this week - but also under growing uncertainty about their future.

Indigenous auto upstarts such as Chery CHERY.UL, . (0175.HK) and Great Wall (601633.SS) grew spectacularly in 2009 and 2010 but began struggling last year following the government's decision to scrap vehicle purchase incentives that favoured their small cars.

Their share of China's auto market dipped to 27.8 percent at the end of March, a drop of about 3 percentage points from the 30.9 percent peak at the end of 2010 - an all-time high, according to the China Association of Automobile Manufacturers.

A more fundamental cause of their struggle, however, is pressure from low-cost cars from global auto makers. Those cars, such as the Chevy Sail subcompact, have been designed to compete head-on with the no-frills models from China brands, priced around 60,000-70,000 yuan.

"This is not a joke. It is a top priority for us to make sure Geely doesn't fail under pressure" from the foreign rivals, said Zhejiang Geely Holding Group Co Chairman Li Shufu in an interview earlier this month. Geely needs to do everything it can, Li said, to weather the pressure, including gaining some technology from Sweden's Volvo, which Geely acquired in 2010.

China's auto market has long been divvied up between homegrown and foreign car makers, which have both been able to thrive by serving different customers. Mostly throughout the last decade, global car makers have targeted the richer elites, while domestic makers including Chery Automobile Co, Geely, and BYD Co (1211.HK) have catered to consumers on a budget.

Those days are coming to an end. Now, in a trend that has been building for a few years, the two groups are headed for a collision in many segments as global auto makers like GM (GM.N) move in on indigenous China brands' territory: people who are just becoming affluent enough to afford their first car.

Pressure from this expansion is making some of those auto upstarts with names like Anhui Jianghuai Automobile Co (600418.SS) (also known as JAC Motors) and Great Wall Motor Co., as well as more well-known and bigger Geely, Chery and BYD vulnerable.

One source of uncertainty is an overall slowdown of China's once red-hot market. The market began softening last year after a decade of breakneck growth. Many analysts and industry executives believe annual growth rates could slow to 7-8 percent on average through 2020, compared with sales surges over the past decade by as much as 46 percent, the rate recorded in 2009.

What's worse, this slowdown is happening as more new entrants appear in the market and as existing competitors add to their offerings, making survival in China, the world's biggest auto market since 2009, even more tenuous.

"When there is enough water in the lake, the boats will float. But when the water level comes down, not all the boats will be able to float," said William Russo, head of Beijing-based consulting company Synergistics.

NO-FRILLS

U.S. consulting firm Alix Partners says the number of households in China with annual income of more than 60,000 yuan - a level considered as sufficient for a family to buy a no-frills car - will likely nearly double to 65.6 million by about 2015.

GM's Chevy Sail, which was launched in 2010, sells for 56,800 yuan, while Volkswagen (VOWG_p.DE) and Nissan (7201.T) also have several models that sell in the 70,000 to 80,000 yuan range.

Further heightening the pressures on Chinese brands is China's own industrial policy.

As part of its effort to nurture domestic auto makers, the country's policymakers have been encouraging global companies and their Chinese joint-venture partners, mostly large state-owned auto makers such as SAIC Motor Corp (SAI.N) (600104.SS), to establish joint China-only brands.

In most cases, those brands that have already been launched - Baojun from GM and its partner SAIC, as well as Venucia, which is operated by Nissan and Dongfeng Motor Group Co (0489.HK) (600006.SS) - use older technology the foreign auto makers retired recently while using more Chinese-designed and -produced components to cut costs.

Use of older technology means those China-only, foreign-Chinese co-brands could sell their cars with relatively low price tags, putting further pressure on China's indigenous brands - a source of worry for many indigenous auto makers.

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The Venucia D50 compact car, based on the previous-generation Nissan Tiida, sells for as little as 67,800 yuan, compared with the 100,000 yuan for the most affordable version of the redesigned Tiida.

The Baojun 630, a compact sedan built on the underpinnings of a retired GM model, is 5,000 yuan cheaper than the Venucia D50.

In the case of the Chevy Sail, GM went back to the drawing board in 2005, simplifying older vehicle underpinnings among other cost-reduction efforts and pulling from the company's global parts bin to shave costs and create a rival to cars such as Geely's King Kong, a 56,000-yuan sedan.

China brands are fighting back by investing in technology to upgrade the quality of their no-frills cars. In some cases, they're also trying to take on their global rivals with more upscale cars, but the effort has mostly been unsuccessful.

Many analysts and industry executives believe big state-owned companies such as SAIC and Dongfeng, with strong ties with foreign auto makers, are likely to fare relatively well, while those without strong backing, such as Jianghuai Auto and BYD, might struggle.

BYD's F3, for example, China's best-selling car in 2009 and 2010, has dropped out of the top-10 list, giving way to new low-cost cars like the Chevy Sail and Volkswagen's Bora, according to the China Association of Automobile Manufacturers.

Geely and others with foreign ties, meanwhile, appear well-positioned to weather the foreign assault. Geely Chairman Li, who is also chairman of Volvo, said the two companies agreed recently to share some Volvo technology with Geely.

Geely desperately needs Volvo technology, Li said, to deal with this "life or death matter".

The plight of China's domestic brand auto industry is just an example of the struggles that Chinese corporations face as they try to move up the value ladder.

America, German, Japanese and Korean automakers has successfully prevented China from becoming an auto export power by bringing the auto war to China itself, ensuring that Chinese automakers don't get strong enough to challenge them overseas.
 
Local brands lag as tech-heavy foreign cars zoom ahead in China - Hindustan Times

Local brands lag as tech-heavy foreign cars zoom ahead in China

The grille is from a Chevrolet, the headlamps from Jaguar, the interiors of a Hyundai, the suspension borrowed from Mercedes and the engine copied from Ford and you have a Chinese car at half the price of all these cars.

This lack of ingenuity has started to hurt local brands such as Chery, Geely and BYD in China, with their share in the domestic market slipping to below 30% this year. At the same time the prospects of them going big in overseas markets remain as bleak as ever.

"I do not believe the local cars are world class yet but they are learning and improving," said John Edwards, global brand director, Land Rover. "In times to come some of them would be able to export to developed markets and make a name for themselves. Maybe in a decade or so."

While China remains firmly in the driver's seat as far as its market size is concerned, the heat is on its local brands to catch up with foreign carmakers. Traditionally, global heavyweights like VW, GM, Ford, Toyota, Nissan, Hyundai and Honda have concentrated on the big spender's fetish for sedans and SUVs leaving the budget category of small cars for the local brands. But now, even they are bringing in low-cost compact cars threatening the future of local companies.

"It is our top prority to make sure we don't fail under pressure," said Li Shufu,co-chairman, Zhejiang Geely Holding Group in an interview last month.

What works against these firms is that unlike Japan and Korea, China's car buyers are not as nationalistic and do not mind buying a Chevrolet Sail over a Geely or Chery.

To answer the call for technology some of them may get active in the M&A space. Geely, for example, bought Volvo in 2010, and may use some of its technologies. Others may look to do the same. All are investing in technology but have not been able to match their global counterparts.

Chinese auto brands getting killed by foreign brands at home, with Chinese brand's market share standing at 27% and falling fast. China's not following the footsteps of Japan and Korea before it.

Just because Japan and Korea did before doesn't mean China too could.
 
stop aligning your inferior nation with Germany, Japan
It was not I who did that but the Goldman Sachs Chairman and Merrill Lynch asset management head.

if you still have a heart of humiliation
I have a heart of arrogance and belittlement.

So what do Germans think of this?

"Hyundai is one of the most agile and dangerous competitors in the global mass market car industry today" - Stefan Bratzel, Director of the Center of Automotive Management in Bergisch Gladbach, Germany.
 
"Hyundai is one of the most agile and dangerous competitors in the global mass market car industry today" - Stefan Bratzel, Director of the Center of Automotive Management in Bergisch Gladbach, Germany.

Hyundai is basically garbage. Japan has been limiting the sale of advanced precision machine tools to Hyundai, how can you make good cars?
 
Japan has been limiting the sale of advanced precision machine tools to Hyundai, how can you make good cars?
Hyundai is the most vertically integrated corporation in auto business, the only one that makes its own robots and runs a steel mill. The reason Hyundai Veloster is bigger yet lighter than Honda CR-X is because of custom steel from Hyundai's internal steel mill.
 
And who are you to say that? Some sweatshop worker?

Your labor is far cheaper than Korean labor.

I am not considering it's an insult. you said the truth and we are proud of working hard and earn fair wages.

but, at least our Size is so much better than Your 9 cm, not-so-cheap-Korean-labors sticks plus record holder in that department.
 
At least India has a self-reliant indigenous auto industry in the process of nurturing, while China is getting plowed by foreigners.

do you have market shares of the various different brands in india?

That is the passenger cars segment about the combined foreign car sales being above the domestic ones. Need to have details on the comparison. I am also interested in finding out the source which I have read about China's own commercial car sales is still in pole position.

Hyundai is basically garbage. Japan has been limiting the sale of advanced precision machine tools to Hyundai, how can you make good cars?

how, by hand or your Korean cheap labors? funny indeed.

the false-flagger is not korean. s/he is a deeply frustrated indian in hk following the path of hk right wings!
 
do you have market shares of the various different brands in india?
No. 1 : Maruti Suzuki : 38%
No. 2 : Hyundai : 15%
No. 3 : Tata

Everybody else are minor players.

but, at least our Size is so much better than Your 9 cm, not-so-cheap-Korean-labors sticks plus record holder in that department.
Yet you don't seem to have much luck with your endowment, while not a day passes by without some paparazzi photo shot of some drunk Korean moviestar in some embarrassing pose at clubs with Japanese actresses/models on Japan's tabloid, which in turn inflames Japan's rightwingers.

At least I haven't heard of a Pakistani moviestar getting busy with Japanese ladies.
 
Hyundai is basically garbage. Japan has been limiting the sale of advanced precision machine tools to Hyundai, how can you make good cars?

how, by hand or your Korean cheap labors? funny indeed.

Never be arrogant and never , ever under-estimate your rivals :

Some images from Hyundai's India factories

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@ korean"

No. 1 : Maruti Suzuki : 38%
No. 2 : Hyundai : 15%
where is the indigenous-india coming from? all car sales in foreign brands in China are JVs of local car makers with foreign brands just like Maruti/Suzuki! So why China-made car sales in China are less INDIGENOUS and SELF RELIANT than indian made!
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@ harpoon

Thanks even though its 2010 data!
 
Tata owns Jaguar-Land Rover and M&M owns Ssangyong. Unlike Chinese purchase of MG Rover, Indian acquisitions are doing very well.

China's auto market is the largest in the world unlike india where the top selling brands are top super compact cars like M suzuki/tata etc. you thinking sucks and dont have a clue of what indigenous means - oh may be if indians are involved only in paint jobs then you still call it indigenous india too!

List out ALL the brand names that are produced in india and look for all the brand names that are made in China. Give me the figures then we talk! China also owns Volvo via Geely!
 

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