It was J10 vs F22, and now you're looking at J20 (which is inferior to the American counterparts) against NGAD.
Gap is exponential, not linear. The difference between F22 and J10 is insane. The difference between F35 and F22 is insane. The difference between NGAD and F-35 is insane. Even though they're produced not very far apart in terms of time.
Again, Chinese 6th gen will probably be a true rival to American 5th gen aircraft. J20 is, and I quote, "nothing to lose sleep over".
well now you are going completely on your own assumptions about performance making claims you could have no way of knowing or backing up. in short, worthless presumptions.
first,
sure, it was j-7 then j-10 facing f-22s, huge gap i can agree, however, if counting from first flight, there was 14 years of this before the j-20. counting operational status there was a 12 year gap. i see no reason to think the chinese 6th gen they are working on right now is going to be 12 years later than NGAD.
then you claim "insane" difference between f-22 and f-35. i have heard better performance out of the f-35 electronically, but never "insane". i dont think anyone would claim that 999 out 1000 times the f-35 would beat the f-22 if all else equal, because that's the kind of gap or greater we can expect from j-10 vs f-22.
then you claim NGAD is "insane" yet again compared to the f-35, yet the NGAD is unfinished, and no spec of any kind is release, all we know is that it should be better. are you going to claim you have insider secret knowledge?
then you claim the j-20 is inferior to american counterparts. there is no way to know, hence why i always say within ballpark of each other, if there is a gap, you have no idea how much is the gap.
and on that point, all that the f-35 has, we see the j-20 has also, including DAS which you seem to think is some kind of a miracle wunder weapon, or rather, sensor system. the j-20 also has a bigger nose for a bigger radar, the j-20 is also powered by two engines with a higher combined thrust than the single f-135 on the f-35 without the any of compromises that the f-35 has to make to accommodate the F-35B. and all serious attempts to look at its shaping shows it to be a credible stealth design. in short, the j-20 is faster, more maneuverable, sees farther and by virtue of the pl-15, shoots farther than the f-35 based on what we can know. you'll probably claim american radars or ram is better, well maybe, i wouldn't be shocked at that that but i doubt the difference is "insane".
then you make an absolutely ridiculous claim that the future Chinese 6th gen is somehow only going to be comparable to american 5th gens (f-22, f-35), when all we know is that its pretty much going to be a flying triangle like all 6th gen concepts everywhere
you pretty much assume each new jet in the us is an entire generation or more better than the last jet (f-22 vs f-35) while also assuming each new generation(generation not just jet) of chinese jets is actually just 0.5 generations better than the last one. these are bad assumptions without anything to back them up other than prejudice, which is all that you have shown so far.
in contrast to you, my points are simple and doesn't require basically making things up
j-8/j-7 is 3rd gen.
j-10 is 4th gen
j-20 is 5th gen
china had to use 3rd/4th gens to face us 5th gens for 12+ years(depending counting in service or first flight)
china is unlikely to have to use 5th gens to face us 6th gens for the same or greater amount of time.
hence the gap has been closed.
in fact we can go farther back too, to show that it isnt something new. how long did china have to face us 4th gens with 3rd gen fighters? then how long did china use 4th gens to face american 5th gens. yet right now, we see the us without any generation advantage over china, that shows clear progress which you keep pretending like it didnt happen.
and lastly, talk is cheap, china is the greatest threat in the universe when the USAF needs funds. yet wholly incapable and ready to fall apart at any second when the us wants to tell the world the USAF is the best or when they needs to reassure allies or just slander china.
whats not cheap is action. and the us already has aggressor squads dedicated to act as PLAAF flying f-35s
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