China issues normal visas to J&K journalists

[Tractor]

You gotta be joking right?

India wasnt united by a commone culture before the British? Have you completely lost it?

So what you're suggesting is that a bunch of Indians came together post independence and set a rule of cultural, moral, religious values that were imposed on the people....
So the march for independence happened because people did not believe in the concept of India, but because the British told us that we were one?

Please explain....Im very interested to see how you as a chinese came to this conclusion....

Indian people different from each other but be considered as a whole one because all features from appearances to cultures no see in else where except those people from northeast India.Of course first of all India as a historical concept include whole subcontinent.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

An Indian teaching a Chinese brought up in HK about his indentity? Trying to convince CD that he is not Han while CD insisted he is?

Come on, Ray!

It is like someone convincing you that you were adopted while the fact is that you were produced by your mother.

Well, I believe only you have the nerve to go that far in helping we Chinese to figure out the real indentity of ourselves.

Ray is not particularly interested in the facts. (Anyone who wants to know the facts, can take a look at the Hong Kong government census).

His goal, is to undermine Chinese unity wherever he possibly can.

We in Hong Kong have always considered ourselves 中国人.

If you try to tell a Hong Kong Chinese person that they are not Chinese, they will laugh in your face.

 

[jdme]

Maybe you're taking my discussions with Ray too seriously.

Anyway, when did the people who live in India start to embrace the concept that they were "Indians"? When did they start to consider themselves as "one people", under the identity called "Indian"?

Even today, Indians consider themselves to be of different ethnic groups and different cultures. The concept of unity is a political one, a shared identity of belonging to the nation-state of India, which only came into existence in 1947.

The Chinese had a shared concept of belonging to the same nation of China, the "Middle Kingdom" (Zhong guo) for thousands of years.

I think you are making a case for letting Tibet go

 

[jdme]

That is true, cultural identities have always been fluid.

When did you guys become "Indians"? Only after the creation of British India, before that you were not united by a common culture or ethnicity.

When did European immigrants become Americans? When did the Germanic migrants to the British isles become British?

Well British didn't coin the word "India" or "Indian" Even today India doesn't have common ethnicity or even "culture". Thing that binds Europe binds us too.

 

[thinkingcap81]

More positive news:

The Hindu : News / National : India to end freeze on high-level defence exchanges with China

A high-level Indian military delegation will visit China in June as part of defence exchanges, thus ending the suspension of such excahnges following the stapled visa row.

After a pause, India is set to restore full defence cooperation with China, with a high-level military delegation to visit the country expectedly in June and an in-principle agreement reached for setting up a mechanism for consultations and coordination on border affairs.

The decisions were arrived at during a 50-minute meeting between Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and President Hu Jintao here where the Indian leader also voiced concern over the growing trade imbalance in favour of China, evoking an assurance that it would be addressed.

During the “very productive, warm and friendly” meeting, Dr. Singh and Mr. Hu launched the ‘Year of India-China Exchanges in 2011’, National Security Adviser Shivshankar Menon told reporters.

As part of the measure, there will be a series of visits including by an Indian military delegation to China besides exchange of visits by senior political leaders, holding of strategic economic dialogue, official consultations and people-to-people contacts, he said.

“It has been agreed that a multi-command Indian military delegation will visit China later this year,” Mr. Menon said.

Sources said the delegation could visit as early as June and is expected to be headed by a Corps Commander level officer of the rank of Lt General.

The decision to send a military delegation to China marks an end to the freeze on high-level defence exchanges by India after the then Northern Army Commander Lt. Gen. B.S. Jaswal was denied a proper visa in July last year for travel to Beijing because he served in Jammu and Kashmir.