China invades "Japanese" territorial waters

[Zero_wing]

1,000 Chinese boats headed for Senkakus

Well organized fleets......looks like ants going going for the elephant

They keep coming.........

For the story:1,000 Chinese boats headed for Senkakus: report | The Japan Times Online

Wow now you admit its called senkaku and that small fleet will be short work for Japan's subs and planes man i wish we have those subs and planes but were only getting three subs and 12 planes and other 12 in 2015 it suck but still its good knowing that if you chinese are going to attack the Japan America and Japan will send those cheap made ships down below as artificial reefs oh wait the fish my get tetanus or poisoning because of the chemicals hahahahaha easy for your ships to fight especially now we are going to get whose 10 Italian ship all complete with full armaments and equipment

 

[Zero_wing]

And that is how the Japanese **** industry became so successful.

Maybe because of the atrocities, the Chinese deserve receiving those islands back from the Japanese, as those islands are the only piece of territory that the Japanese managed to keep from its expansion in Asia, only to keep Communist China in check.

Yup because you men have the smallest guns in Asia

 

[SinoChallenger]

China's invasion is unstoppable!

Japan protests as Chinese ships enter disputed waters | Reuters

Govt to object to China's bid to extend shelf : National : DAILY YOMIURI ONLINE (The Daily Yomiuri)

Diaoyu Islands become hunting grounds for unmanned Chinese drones

 

[Bond]

once Uncle sam chips in- dragon will go n hide under the stone it came from...

China's invasion is unstoppable!

Japan protests as Chinese ships enter disputed waters | Reuters

Govt to object to China's bid to extend shelf : National : DAILY YOMIURI ONLINE (The Daily Yomiuri)

Chinese drones to monitor territories

 

[shuttler]

once Uncle sam chips in- dragon will go n hide under the stone it came from...

your uncle's hands are full with an american autumn. dont expect them to help the japanese other than signing lucrative arms sales contracts with them

Yup because you men have the smallest guns in Asia

you have watched too many in house japanese military drills

 

[Bond]

Well, time only will answer that.. let us see if Chinese are willing to invade a country for these islands...

your uncle's hands are full with an american autumn. dont expect them to help the japanese other than signing lucrative arms sales contracts with them



you have watched too many in house japanese military drills

 

[SinoChallenger]

Playing Chicken in the East China Sea

Over the past two weeks, one of the largest naval standoffs in recent years played out between China and Japan. Off the disputed Senkaku Islands (called Diaoyu in China), up to 20 Chinese maritime surveillance vessels were shadowed by 50 Japanese Coast Guard cutters, as the Japanese waited tensely for a reported 1,000-ship fishing flotilla to arrive from China. Although the private armada never materialized, this is the latest in a string of face-offs that increase the likelihood that confrontation will erupt, due as much to chance as to calculation.

The Senkakus are the farthest outreach of Japanese-claimed territory, anchoring the Ryukyu Island chain that stretches southwestward from Kyushu, one of Japan's home islands. Strategic planners in Tokyo have begun to refer to this chain as the "southwestern wall," a string of Japanese-held outposts that could be used to block Chinese maritime access to the western Pacific Ocean. While Beijing and Tokyo have sparred over the Senkakus before, most recently in 2010, the latest contretemps began when Tokyo purchased these islands from their private owners this month.

This is not only a matter of a military standoff. Street demonstrators attacked Japanese businesses in at least 85 cities. Major Japanese manufacturers in China such as Honda and Toyota suspended their operations. Japan Airlines slashed the number of flights between the two countries, while large retailers like Aeon department stores closed down their China branches.

Fueling the fire, an adviser to China's Ministry of Commerce called for Beijing to dump its $230 billion of Japanese government bonds. Meanwhile, Japanese exporters report that China is delaying the acceptance of Japanese goods at customs ports around the country, and rumors are beginning to circulate that Beijing will once again squeeze the supply of rare earths to Japan, which are vital for industrial production.

The Chinese believe that Japanese nationalism ignited the crisis. They argue that Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda upended the status quo by nationalizing the islands in response to Tokyo Governor Shintaro Ishihara's plan to purchase them. Mr. Noda has also played the economy card, warning Beijing that its actions may scare away foreign investors, thus weakening China's already slowing growth

In such a situation, it is naïve to assume the two sides will successfully avoid coming to blows. Sure, both Tokyo and Beijing may currently be playing chicken over the East China Sea and may not have any intention of sparking hostilities. But the way nationalist passions have been stoked in both countries, particularly China, the possibilities of accident or miscalculation are rising. Tensions in the East China Sea have become bad enough for both America's Secretary of Defense and China's leading military commissar to warn that war could break out. Washington has implored both nations to solve the dispute peacefully.

But back in 2010, the U.S. made a similar request, and clearly that hasn't been heeded by either Tokyo or Beijing. Neither side can find a way to resolve the issue diplomatically. They won't surrender their claims, and they're increasingly letting domestic opinion drive their policies.

Beijing has a history of fanning nationalism through the bogey of militaristic Japan. But the stakes to Japan's security are indisputably high. If it fails to protect its administrative control over the Senkakus, then it will have put at risk all its disputed island territories, not merely in the East China Sea, but also those in the Sea of Japan and the northern Pacific. Further, a surrender would mark the ascension of China over Japan as the region's major power and also encourage more Chinese pressure on Japan's water space.

What if Tokyo decides tougher measures are needed against Chinese ships? That could bring into play both countries' navies, which so far have not been deployed in this crisis. This is a numbers game Japan can't win, since its roughly 50 frigates and destroyers would face nearly 200 PLA Navy destroyers, frigates and guided missile boats, not to mention 65 submarines and hundreds of fighter and attack aircraft. Japan may have a qualitative edge, but that would be worn down by China's ability to flood a combat zone with ships, subs and planes. Tokyo would be forced to turn to the United States for support under the mutual security treaty.

That would cause a great-power crisis unseen since the days of World War II, with untold economic fallout, not to mention the possibility of ever-widening military operations. Washington will have to decide how to deal with its treaty ally. Leaving Japan to face China alone would destroy America's global alliance system, while allowing China to redraw boundaries in Asia would simply hasten the decline of American influence.

This is the dilemma posed by China's increasingly aggressive rising power and is a foretaste of more tension to come. The long-term solution here is for the U.S. to lead its allies in maintaining a credible military presence in Asia's waters to oppose any attempts at unilaterally changing boundaries. That starts with drawing some inviolable red lines in the waters off the Senkakus to keep the peace.

Michael Auslin: Playing Chicken in the East China Sea - WSJ.com

once Uncle sam chips in- dragon will go n hide under the stone it came from...

LOL at the indian begging for his master's help.

When we are done with Diaoyu Island..... then Andaman & Nicobar Islands are easy pickings

 

[anon45]

Playing Chicken in the East China Sea

Over the past two weeks, one of the largest naval standoffs in recent years played out between China and Japan. Off the disputed Senkaku Islands (called Diaoyu in China), up to 20 Chinese maritime surveillance vessels were shadowed by 50 Japanese Coast Guard cutters, as the Japanese waited tensely for a reported 1,000-ship fishing flotilla to arrive from China. Although the private armada never materialized, this is the latest in a string of face-offs that increase the likelihood that confrontation will erupt, due as much to chance as to calculation.

The Senkakus are the farthest outreach of Japanese-claimed territory, anchoring the Ryukyu Island chain that stretches southwestward from Kyushu, one of Japan's home islands. Strategic planners in Tokyo have begun to refer to this chain as the "southwestern wall," a string of Japanese-held outposts that could be used to block Chinese maritime access to the western Pacific Ocean. While Beijing and Tokyo have sparred over the Senkakus before, most recently in 2010, the latest contretemps began when Tokyo purchased these islands from their private owners this month.

This is not only a matter of a military standoff. Street demonstrators attacked Japanese businesses in at least 85 cities. Major Japanese manufacturers in China such as Honda and Toyota suspended their operations. Japan Airlines slashed the number of flights between the two countries, while large retailers like Aeon department stores closed down their China branches.

Fueling the fire, an adviser to China's Ministry of Commerce called for Beijing to dump its $230 billion of Japanese government bonds. Meanwhile, Japanese exporters report that China is delaying the acceptance of Japanese goods at customs ports around the country, and rumors are beginning to circulate that Beijing will once again squeeze the supply of rare earths to Japan, which are vital for industrial production.

The Chinese believe that Japanese nationalism ignited the crisis. They argue that Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda upended the status quo by nationalizing the islands in response to Tokyo Governor Shintaro Ishihara's plan to purchase them. Mr. Noda has also played the economy card, warning Beijing that its actions may scare away foreign investors, thus weakening China's already slowing growth

In such a situation, it is naïve to assume the two sides will successfully avoid coming to blows. Sure, both Tokyo and Beijing may currently be playing chicken over the East China Sea and may not have any intention of sparking hostilities. But the way nationalist passions have been stoked in both countries, particularly China, the possibilities of accident or miscalculation are rising. Tensions in the East China Sea have become bad enough for both America's Secretary of Defense and China's leading military commissar to warn that war could break out. Washington has implored both nations to solve the dispute peacefully.

But back in 2010, the U.S. made a similar request, and clearly that hasn't been heeded by either Tokyo or Beijing. Neither side can find a way to resolve the issue diplomatically. They won't surrender their claims, and they're increasingly letting domestic opinion drive their policies.

Beijing has a history of fanning nationalism through the bogey of militaristic Japan. But the stakes to Japan's security are indisputably high. If it fails to protect its administrative control over the Senkakus, then it will have put at risk all its disputed island territories, not merely in the East China Sea, but also those in the Sea of Japan and the northern Pacific. Further, a surrender would mark the ascension of China over Japan as the region's major power and also encourage more Chinese pressure on Japan's water space.

What if Tokyo decides tougher measures are needed against Chinese ships? That could bring into play both countries' navies, which so far have not been deployed in this crisis. This is a numbers game Japan can't win, since its roughly 50 frigates and destroyers would face nearly 200 PLA Navy destroyers, frigates and guided missile boats, not to mention 65 submarines and hundreds of fighter and attack aircraft. Japan may have a qualitative edge, but that would be worn down by China's ability to flood a combat zone with ships, subs and planes. Tokyo would be forced to turn to the United States for support under the mutual security treaty.

That would cause a great-power crisis unseen since the days of World War II, with untold economic fallout, not to mention the possibility of ever-widening military operations. Washington will have to decide how to deal with its treaty ally. Leaving Japan to face China alone would destroy America's global alliance system, while allowing China to redraw boundaries in Asia would simply hasten the decline of American influence.

This is the dilemma posed by China's increasingly aggressive rising power and is a foretaste of more tension to come. The long-term solution here is for the U.S. to lead its allies in maintaining a credible military presence in Asia's waters to oppose any attempts at unilaterally changing boundaries. That starts with drawing some inviolable red lines in the waters off the Senkakus to keep the peace.

Michael Auslin: Playing Chicken in the East China Sea - WSJ.com



LOL at the indian begging for his master's help.

When we are done with Diaoyu Island..... then Andaman & Nicobar Islands are easy pickings

The weakest dogs bark the loudest, the Great Dane USA is watching you.

 

[SinoChallenger]

China continues to invade "Japanese" territorial waters! Japan and USA watch but are too afraid challenge our bullying!

Chinese surveillance ships show up again near islets | The Japan Times Online

Three Chinese surveillance vessels intruded into Japan's territorial waters around the Senkaku Islands in the East China Sea on Wednesday, according to the coast guard.

The three ships entered the waters of the Japan-controlled Senkakus between 12:30 p.m. and 12:50 p.m., ignoring demands by the coast guard that they turn back, the 11th Regional Coast Guard Headquarters in Naha, Okinawa Prefecture, reported.

The surveillance vessels and another Chinese craft were spotted in the contiguous zone just outside the islet group's territorial waters earlier in the morning, and they did not immediately respond to instructions to exit Japan's territorial waters, the coast guard said.

At around 9 a.m., three crew members from one of the surveillance ships boarded two Chinese fishing boats in the contiguous zone, apparently to carry out inspections, the coast guard said.

Four Chinese surveillance craft on Tuesday encroached into the territorial waters around the Senkakus, which are claimed by Beijing, and another six entered the contiguous zone the day before.

 

[ahfatzia]

^^^You make China looks bad man! Show your real flag so we know who you really are. Unseen enemy among us is the most treacherous.

 

[SinoChallenger]

China invades "Japanese" territorial waters again! Why doesn't anybody try to stop our bullying? Why do they turn so cowardly when China comes out ready for war?

Chinese surveillance ships enter Japanese territorial waters again

Chinese vessels patrolling Diaoyutai waters: Japanese media

Four Chinese maritime surveillance vessels were spotted in waters near the disputed Diaoyutai Islands Friday, according to Japanese media reports, in what may become a routine occurrence in the near future.

It was the fifth straight day that Chinese surveillance ships entered waters adjacent to what Japan calls its territorial waters, Japan Kyodo news agency said.

A Hong Kong China News Agency report said it may become routine for China's surveillance ships to patrol waters surrounding the Diaoyutai island chain in the East China Sea, which has been under Japan's control since 1972 but is also claimed by Taiwan and China.

Hong Lei, a spokesman for China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, said Wednesday that China's maritime surveillance ships will continue to patrol the Diaoyutais to safeguard its rights.

Citing Japanese Coast Guard authorities, the Kyodo report said crew members aboard one of those Chinese vessels responded to a Japanese order to stay away from the area by saying over a wireless device that they were performing official duties in waters under its jurisdiction.

Meanwhile, the Japanese Ministry of Defense said Thursday that a flotilla of seven Chinese warships were spotted in the open sea between the main island of Japan's Okinawa archipelago and Miyakojima Island that day.

The ministry said the fleet, composed of destroyers, frigates, submarines and disaster relief craft, was navigating in waters some 110 kilometers northeast of Miyakojima when it was spotted.

Japanese media reports said the passage of the Chinese fleet in the area might be aimed at checking the unusual convergence of three U.S. battle groups in the West Pacific in recent days.



Even Japan's "democratic" allies have abandoned it!

In the final analysis, Japan can look to its U.S. allies, but America is unlikely to relish the idea of armed conflict with China, especially over some uninhabited islands even if there are significant natural resources in the sea area around them.

The economic implications of any further escalation of the dispute are potentially serious for Japanese industry and trade. The Japanese economy is still suffering from deflation as Japan's population starts to decline. Japanese nationalists who close their eyes to these implications are making a serious error.

Japanese politicians and the Japanese electorate should not allow these disputes to escalate further. If they do, they will forfeit support from other democratic countries and will damage Japan's long-term political and economic interests.

Diplomatic procedures for the settlement of disputes have not been exhausted. Some form of compromise, including possibly joint exploitation of any natural resources in the area, should at least be considered

Hugh Cortazzi -- Britain's ambassador to Japan from 1980 to 1984



As a Japanese American who is one of the members of Congress serving on the Congressional-Executive Commission on China, I think it is imperative we keep this conflict from escalating. That doesn't mean we take sides.

In sensitive situations like this, biasing one party helps little in de-escalating potentially violent conflict. It does mean, however, that we need to understand both perspectives before mediating a way forward.

Why should America engage? Not simply because we said we would as we pivoted our foreign relations focus toward the Asia Pacific but because it's in our financial and diplomatic interests.

First, with economies slowing in China and Japan and shipping routes affected, the effect will be felt soon in the United States.

Second, this is a preventable conflict and a third party is needed before bluster becomes bombings.

So what does engagement look like? For China, these are the "Diaoyu" islands. They were in China's hands long before Japan laid claim to the islands in the late 1800s. For Japan, these are the "Senkaku" islands. Their recent purchase by the Japanese government from a private owner has sparked protests. This conflict is primarily about historic grievances, identity and nationalism.

The U.N. General Assembly would have been the best forum for a conversation on how the U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea might apply, but it was not used.

The United States, however, along with several of its European Union allies, is well positioned to convene a constructive conversation on resolving this conflict. If China objects to having the United States do the convening, then Washington can help find another interlocutor. Either way, the dispute is not going away.

If the United States is going to take sides, it would be wise to take both sides.

Rep. Mike Honda, D-San Jose

 

[SinoChallenger]

Our invasion is unstoppable!!

China Patrols Continue Near Disputed Islands - Japan Real Time - WSJ

Ever since the Japanese government announced last month it would buy three islets, known as Senkaku in Japanese and Diaoyu in Chinese, the presence of Chinese government boats near the islands has become a daily occurrence.

Experts say that’s precisely China’s strategy.

“There’s the risk that the Japanese mass media is going to get used to this, and it will be taken as the norm,” said Yoshihiko Yamada, professor at the School of Marine Science and Technology at Japan’s Tokai University, adding that a complacent attitude would be “dangerous” for Japan.

The Chinese boats have sailed mainly in the “contiguous zone,” a band of sea just outside of the territorial waters around the islands, but have entered territorial waters five times since Sept. 14, bringing it to a total of eight for the year. That compares with only once in 2011, according to the Japan Coast Guard.

The ships have been either China Marine Surveillance, under the State Oceanic Administration, or Fisheries Law Enforcement Command vessels, under the Ministry of Agriculture. They represent two of five non-military Chinese government bodies with maritime law enforcement responsibilities.

Alessio Patalano, lecturer in war studies at King’s College London explained that the vessels helped China’s goal of creating “a condition by which their presence there is accepted as a matter of fact.”

“Sovereignty at the sea is at heart about functional rights,” Dr. Patalano said. “By protecting fishing activities in the area, Chinese law enforcement agencies are providing evidence of the fact that there is a dispute and of the fact that the other party is not in control.”

 

[SinoChallenger]

Nobody can stop our bullying and invasion

Chinese boats near disputed islands: Voice of Russia

Three Chinese patrol vessels entered the area near the islands of the Senkaku (Diaoyu) Islands which Tokyo considers its territorial waters.

Japanese patrol boats used radios to demand that they leave the area however the situation is still at a standstill.

In connection with the incident the office of the Prime Minister of Japan has formed a crisis group.

The last time the Chinese patrol boats approached directly Senkaku October 3.

 

[SinoChallenger]

Chinese patrol vessels test 'authority' near Senkakus | The Japan Times Online

NAHA, Okinawa Pref. — Chinese surveillance vessels on Thursday entered Japan's territorial waters around the Senkaku Islands for the first time in three weeks, the Japan Coast Guard said.

The government lodged a "strong protest" over the intrusion with China through diplomatic channels.

Three Chinese surveillance vessels moved into the waters near Minamikojima, one of the five main islets in the Senkaku group, at around 6:30 a.m., the coast guard said. About an hour later, another surveillance vessel entered the territorial waters, according to the 11th Regional Coast Guard Headquarters in Naha, Okinawa Prefecture.

A patrol boat warned the vessels to leave, but one replied via radio that the area "is China's," the coast guard said.

It is the first time since Oct. 3 that Chinese surveillance vessels have entered Japan's territorial waters around the islets, known as Diaoyu in China, which claims them as its territory.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said the ships were conducting a "regular patrol for maintaining authority" and a "normal official activity that asserted (China's) jurisdiction."

 

[SinoChallenger]

Japan gets bullied again! Why can't they stop China when China is ready for war?

Japan says four Chinese ships in disputed waters ? Japan Today: Japan News and Discussion

TOKYO —Four Chinese maritime surveillance ships were spotted in territorial waters around disputed Tokyo-controlled islands on Sunday, Japan’s coast guard said.

The ships were earlier sailing in the contiguous zone near the island chain but entered Japan’s 12-nautical-mile territorial waters around the East China Sea islands at around 1 p.m., the coast guard said.

This was a different Chinese fleet from that which spent several hours on Thursday in territorial waters around the islands, claimed by both Tokyo and Beijing, and provoked a strong protest from Japan, it added.