China HSR News And Information: Original Translation

[Offshore]

Great news keep coming from China!!!

Key To build Great Civilization is Science and Technology!

By the end of Century! We will Dominate this world

 

[JSCh]

Train capable of 400 km/h ready to boost region's connectivity by 2020
By OUYANG SHIJIA/LIU MINGTAI/ZHONG NAN | China Daily | Updated: 2017-05-03 06:43

China is working on next-generation bullet trains with a maximum operational speed of 400 kilometers per hour that will be ready by 2020 for markets linked to the Belt and Road Initiative's vision, the country's top railway vehicle maker said.

"We will apply new materials in the research and production of the future high-speed trains, such as carbon fiber and aluminum alloy, which will help reduce weight and enhance energy efficiency," said Qiao Feng, a senior engineer at the CRRC Changchun Railway Vehicles Co, a subsidiary of China Railway Rolling Stock Corp.

The new trains will be available in Belt and Road Initiative markets, and will be able to reduce per passenger energy consumption by 10 percent compared with high-speed trains that can run 350 km/h. The CRRC will be the manufacturer and exporter, according to Qiao.

Once available, by around 2020, the new trains are expected to promote regional connectivity and create new business for China and overseas economies through the Belt and Road Initiative, Qiao added.

Feng Hao, a rail transportation researcher at the National Development and Reform Commission, said that the 400 km/h high-speed train project would help many heavily populated countries change their commuter transportation from a long dependence on automobiles.

"Because many markets along the Belt and Road Initiative, especially in Central Asia, Southeast Asia, the Middle East and Eastern Europe countries, are planning to build high-speed rail lines or to upgrade their existing systems, they are eager to gain technological support from China to assist in daily operations, maintenance and staff training."

China will test the new bullet train alongside a portion of the Beijing-Shenyang high-speed railway line, Qiao said. The test railway line is to be completed by 2019.

Liu Youmei, an academician at the Chinese Academy of Engineering, said it is still not cost-effective to run a high-speed train at 400 km/h domestically because elements such as bearings, electric contacts and track must be replaced more often.

But, he said, with new railway lines and lower costs for parts and service, it will not be a problem.

In the past decade, China has built the world's largest high-speed rail network and become a leader in offering high-speed train products and services. The country has passenger train services running at operational speeds of 200 to 250 km/h and currently has the technology to produce trains with a top speed of 350 km/h, according to the National Railway Administration.

Qiao said that once the project is completed and with improvements in technologies and equipment, China can also adopt the new technology at home.

As China already made a breakthrough in high-strength bearings made by Taiyuan Iron and Steel (Group) Co earlier this year, the country will be able to supply parts and equipment to domestic and foreign railway service operators in a more cost-efficient way.

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

Great.
Then after the new-generation 350km/h standardised train, we will see another generation at higher speed.

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But can these trains at 400 km/hr run on current tracks?

Also, isn't the speed of the highest commercial HSR limited to 300 km/hr?

 

[AndrewJin]

But can these trains at 400 km/hr run on current tracks?

Also, isn't the speed of the highest commercial HSR limited to 300 km/hr?

No.

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

No.

No to both?

 

[AndrewJin]

Railways along Sino-Korea Border
Dandong-Dalian Railway & Dandong-Dalian High-speed Railway

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

No.

If the these proposed trains can't run at current tracks, don't you think it will be a huge waste to build new tracks?

 

[Han Patriot]

If the these proposed trains can't run at current tracks, don't you think it will be a huge waste to build new tracks?

Genius, you are back!

You see we Chinese can't think like you smart Indys, we can't logic and we have no common sense. That's how we built the second largest economy and uplifted the largest population out of poverty. That's also how we created the fastest supercomputers, the fastest train, those gleaming wasteful express highways, those empty ports who happen to be the world's largest and busiest. We are onlee like this, while smart Indys have found out that the best strategy is actually to remain idle and do critical thinking, let those stupid Chinis do this and that which are wasteful. LOL

 

[TaiShang]

Genius, you are back!

You see we Chinese can't think like you smart Indys, we can't logic and we have no common sense. That's how we built the second largest economy and uplifted the largest population out of poverty. That's also how we created the fastest supercomputers, the fastest train, those gleaming wasteful express highways, those empty ports who happen to be the world's largest and busiest. We are onlee like this, while smart Indys have found out that the best strategy is actually to remain idle and do critical thinking, let those stupid Chinis do this and that which are wasteful. LOL

You really summed it up.

Some of this people's mentality is "unpresidented (DT)." They give you the impression that they are simply waiting for that moment of being great in an instant without wasting too much time and effort in a long historical cycle of development.

It is like poor guy standing idle and commenting on the deficiencies of the rich guy who works hard everyday.

Doing nothing is the surest way of making no mistake, in that sense, those people/countries do never err．

Isn't it wonderful that they simply stay idle and throw random criticism at us as if what has been accomplished so far has been accidental and we have had no input in them.

@Sinopakfriend , hard to understand this mentality. I do not want to paint an entire group of people with the same brush, but some people do really excel at unconstructiveness.

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

Genius, you are back!

You see we Chinese can't think like you smart Indys, we can't logic and we have no common sense. That's how we built the second largest economy and uplifted the largest population out of poverty. That's also how we created the fastest supercomputers, the fastest train, those gleaming wasteful express highways, those empty ports who happen to be the world's largest and busiest. We are onlee like this, while smart Indys have found out that the best strategy is actually to remain idle and do critical thinking, let those stupid Chinis do this and that which are wasteful. LOL

I can't even begin to start listing the amount of logical fallacies that you commit here. And your use of ad hominem attacks is rather legendary.

First, you didn't answer my question which is very legit. Are you going to build completely new lines? How much of an infrastructure is needed? What happens to old lines?

Perhaps you should answer my questions rather than engaging in smear jobs and ad hominem attacks.

Also, a person can grow fast and yet do mistakes, both small and large. Look at Japan. It was growing extremely fast until late 80s, when things tipped over.

Criticism is necessary for rational policy.

 

[Dungeness]

Genius, you are back!

You see we Chinese can't think like you smart Indys, we can't logic and we have no common sense. That's how we built the second largest economy and uplifted the largest population out of poverty. That's also how we created the fastest supercomputers, the fastest train, those gleaming wasteful express highways, those empty ports who happen to be the world's largest and busiest. We are onlee like this, while smart Indys have found out that the best strategy is actually to remain idle and do critical thinking, let those stupid Chinis do this and that which are wasteful. LOL

Unfortunately, the "Critical Thinking" is not their forte, it is more like "critical mouthing".

Actually, his questions are legitimate. China lowered down her HSR network top operating speed from 350KM/H to 300KM/H right after 2011 accident, and it was a political decision. I would love to know when China will resume 350KM/H operation.

 

[shadows888]

If the these proposed trains can't run at current tracks, don't you think it will be a huge waste to build new tracks?

if you don't build new tracks you get shit like this.. i.e. cargo and passenger share same tracks.. limiting speed and having to stop to wait for cargo trains to pass (because the owners say so).

 

[Dungeness]

Also, a person can grow fast and yet do mistakes, both small and large. Look at Japan. It was growing extremely fast until late 80s, when things tipped over.

If you think China will go down Japan's path, don't hold your breath. China and Japan may share the culture and work ethic to some degree, but they don't share the political system at all.

Being an one-party system, CCP doesn't have to worry about opposition parties, therefore, it can afford to have a very long term strategic planning even if it is not popular at the moment, and by default they have the policy continuity that is not something you can expect if you have to change the entire government every 4-5 years. Top it off, Chinese are very good at executing set plans. We submit results, not excuses.

By the way, in Chinese culture, "boasting" is almost a "sin". That's why Chinese members love to ridicule all your outrageous claims and "plans". Many of you guys are almost "sinful". You are an exceptional Indian though.

 

[Stuttgart001]

I can't even begin to start listing the amount of logical fallacies that you commit here. And your use of ad hominem attacks is rather legendary.

First, you didn't answer my question which is very legit. Are you going to build completely new lines? How much of an infrastructure is needed? What happens to old lines?

Perhaps you should answer my questions rather than engaging in smear jobs and ad hominem attacks.

Also, a person can grow fast and yet do mistakes, both small and large. Look at Japan. It was growing extremely fast until late 80s, when things tipped over.

Criticism is necessary for rational policy.

Sorry for my countrymen's irrationality.
High speed train could not share the old track with the ordinary train.
Japan's depression is another story which's the masterpiece of US.

 

[Han Patriot]

I can't even begin to start listing the amount of logical fallacies that you commit here. And your use of ad hominem attacks is rather legendary.

First, you didn't answer my question which is very legit. Are you going to build completely new lines? How much of an infrastructure is needed? What happens to old lines?

Perhaps you should answer my questions rather than engaging in smear jobs and ad hominem attacks.

Also, a person can grow fast and yet do mistakes, both small and large. Look at Japan. It was growing extremely fast until late 80s, when things tipped over.

Criticism is necessary for rational policy.

You already know the answer yet you ask it. The original tracks are designed for 350km/h....use some Indy logical operand here, the trains are designed for 400km/h. You only have two options:

1) Upgrade the old tracks to 400+km/h
2) Build new tracks for new service line for new places. It's not like the Chin* are so dumb to abandon billions worth of 350km/h lines just to increase the speed to 400km/h, isn't it? Common sense, aren't Indys the smartest people on earth?

Sorry for my countrymen's irrationality.
High speed train could not share the old track with the ordinary train.
Japan's depression is another story which's the masterpiece of US.

You don't have to say sorry bro....they are typically irritating, you don't see a Pakistani asking such question, they would ask like this <are you going to build new 400km/h lines instead of don't you think it's wasteful if you use 400km/h train.>