China HSR News And Information: Original Translation

[GS Zhou]

yes, you are correct with the highlighted trip. a Frankfurt and Cologne one-way trip costs 73 euro. 59,90 euro as discount price.

The train ticket in Germany is fxxking expensive!!

A similar route in China, Nanjing South Station to Wuxi East Station, a 180km route, 44 minute required for a one-way trip. Guess the price? 84.5 CNY, or 11.5 Euro. But a much slower train in Germany needs 60 Euro, and DB even calls the 60 Euro ticket "discounted ticket"! My god!

I guess DB must be super profitable!! Am I right?

 

[The Eagle]

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[Viet]

The train ticket in Germany is fxxking expensive!!

A similar route in China, Nanjing South Station to Wuxi East Station, a 180km route, 44 minute required for a one-way trip. Guess the price? 84.5 CNY, or 11.5 Euro. But a much slower train in Germany needs 60 Euro, and DB even calls the 60 Euro ticket "discounted ticket"! My god!

I guess DB must be super profitable!! Am I right?
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DB makes indeed good profits after years of losses. the former state owned company still has an army of active employees and inactive pensioners, all need a good salary and pension. all cost money, rising the costs of operating the railways. the problem is although it makes profit DB doesn´t invest much on infrastructure to get it on a modern standard over the years. the worst thing is lack of cleanness and hygiene at stations. but ok, why should I complain.

 

[AndrewJin]

DB makes indeed good profits after years of losses. the former state owned company still has an army of active employees and inactive pensioners, all need a good salary and pension. all cost money, rising the costs of operating the railways. the problem is although it makes profit DB doesn´t invest much on infrastructure to get it on a modern standard over the years. the worst thing is lack of cleanness and hygiene at stations. but ok, why should I complain.

I think investors should be the government not the railway company. HSRs require huge investment, no company alone can handle that.

 

[TaiShang]

Supply train traverses desolate Inner Mongolia to sustain railway employees
By Li Yan (People's Daily Online) 19:49, March 09, 2017


Although its route can't be located on a map, Train 57021/2 transports daily necessities to over 1,000 railway employees on a weekly basis. The railway, linking the cities of Linhe with Ceke, both in Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, stops at more than 30 stations. The rail spans over 400 kilometers, 80 percent of which is desert.

Every Monday, tugging water-tank lorries, trucks and accommodation carriages, the train traverses this "no man's land" to bring drinking water and vegetables to railway employees stationed at these remote outposts. It takes the train 70 hours to make one round trip.

 

[samsara]

A critical issue on this topic is about the difference between Highest speed and Average speed.
The former one is usually grasping front pages but the latter one should be the most concerned number for we passengers.

Quite often railway companies overcharge passengers just because a tiny part of a journey reaches 300+km/h, but the journey as a whole could be covered by slower trains at a similar duration.

The following survey is the most sensible so far, only measuring the average speed which considers the time wasted on speeding up/down and all those sections of low speeds as well as time spent at intermediate stops.


World Speed Survey 2015: China remains the pacesetter

INTERNATIONAL: China remains the pacesetter in the world rail speed race, according to the latest World Speed Survey published in Railway Gazette International on July 1.

Authored by Jeremy Hartill of the UK’s Railway Performance Society, the biennial survey compiles in tabular form the fastest timetabled start-to-stop journeys between different pairs of stations in countries around the world. Most of the fastest timings occur between intermediate stations, where average speeds are not impeded by slow approaches to major city hubs.

This year, the results show a general coalescence where frequency is the main driver of performance on many routes, with maximum speeds reaching something of a plateau at or slightly above 300 km/h. Our survey finds that the ‘blue riband’ award for the world’s fastest point-to-point rail journey is taken by China Railways Corp’s G66/79, which sprint between Shijiazhuang and Zhengzhou Dong in 81 min at an average speed of 283·4 km/h in each direction. Second in the list is a pair of express trains between Beijing and Nanjing, a distance of 1 021·9 km which is covered in 219 min at an average of 280 km/h.

France, Japan, Spain and Taiwan complete the top five countries by fastest point-to-point timing. A notable entry this year is Ouigo 6284, the third-fastest train in Europe which achieves 253·2 km/h on its run between Lyon St Exupéry airport and Marne-la-Vallée-Chessy station on the outskirts of Paris. Ouigo is the low-cost TGV operation launched by SNCF in April 2013.

The world’s fastest international train is a TGV running between Brussels Midi and Aéroport Charles-de-Gaulle, which records an average of 229·7 km/h, while Eurostar ES9010 manages the London – Paris journey in 140 min at an average of 210 km/h.

While the fastest point-to-point timings are often a reflection of fast runs between intermediate stations, journeys between city hubs are usually slower. Nevertheless, plenty of trains manage to break the 200 km/h mark, led by train G66 in China, which records an astonishing average of 250·1 km/h for the 2 001 km between Guangzhou Dong and Beijing Nan stations. Close behind is the AVE service between Madrid and Barcelona, where numerous trains achieve a 150 min timing for the 621 km journey.

Although Britain’s fastest journey is Southeastern’s Stratford International – Ashford service, where seven trains manage averages of 179·6 km/h over High Speed 1, the fastest trains on the East and West Coast main lines both manage averages in excess of 175 km/h. Virgin Trains East Coast manages the fastest city-to-city dash, with its daily 05.40 Edinburgh – London King’s Cross Flying Scotsman achieving 159·3 km/h. But the 110 km/h of Amtrak’s fastest Acela Express over the 735 km between Washington Union and Boston South show how far the USA still has to go in keeping pace with its peers elsewhere in the world.

Hartill suggests that in years gone by, a handful of express trains making high speed sprints used to capture the headlines, and stand out at the top of any comparative table. ‘Today, rather than running a few select trains, more and more railways are offering a consistent service, with large numbers of regular fast trains throughout the day’, he writes. This change is very apparent in the survey results, where many of the entries would once have been a single, often named, train.

‘Now the entries are increasingly being listed as “several trains” — in some cases up to 10 or more per hour. This suggests a significant shift in railway operating practice, with routes that were once considered premium targets for lavish express trains now regarded as fast commuter corridors’, he concludes.

The complete survey appears in the July issue of Railway Gazette International, which will be available to subscribers in our digital archive. It can also be purchased as a single issue via our tablet app, available in both the Apple iTunes store and on Google Play.

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Very good, eye-opener explanations for many readers. Often some distorted headlines brag about the Highest/Fastest Speed of some HSR in some nations but they keep quiet about the Average Speed of operating HSR.

The Average Speed in Regular Operational Stage (NOT just the lab, trial or testing track) is what relevant to passengers and the associated train fare! The rest is just numerical record.

I think investors should be the government not the railway company. HSRs require huge investment, no company alone can handle that.

The laissez-faire capitalistic economic system there may make it not possible for state to "interfere" in this kind of investment. Btw I'd love to see the German's state within the next 10 years (at the longest) with the migrant flux, wonder how those factors interact... plenty to witness later

 

[TaiShang]

Work begins on PPP high-speed rail
Xinhua, March 10, 2017

A CRH train is ready for examination in EMU (electronic multiple unit) Center. [Photo by Chen Boyuan / China.org.cn]

Construction of a new high-speed rail link between East China's cities of Hangzhou and Wenzhou began on Thursday and is expected to be complete by 2021.

The Hangzhou-Wenzhou line stretches about 331 km and is China's first public-private partnership PPP funded high-speed railway project by the National Development and Reform Commission, with the private sector having holding status.

Upon completion, travel time between two cities will be more than halved from 2.5 hours to about one hour. Passengers can also transfer to Beijing and South China's Guangdong province via the new line.

The Wenzhou-Hangzhou high-speed railway is part of a national initiative to establish a modern, integrated transportation system laid out in the country's 13th five-year plan (2016-2020).

China has the world's largest high-speed rail network, stretching more than 22,000 km, while its total rail network is over 124,000 km.

By 2020, the length of high-speed railways in operation is expected to be around 30,000 km, connecting more than 80 percent big cities.

 

[AndrewJin]

New Intercity Trains for Changsha-Zhuzhou-Xiangtan Intercity HSR

@jkroo
3 doors one car
1800 passengers max.

 

[yusheng]

http://weibo.com/tv/v/Ez1u4zOK4?fid=1034:cbe72e558e70c7c807523c75986ffa49

Chinese HSR collision testing

 

[samsara]

http://weibo.com/tv/v/Ez1u4zOK4?fid=1034:cbe72e558e70c7c807523c75986ffa49

Chinese HSR collision testing

I watched this testing segment in CCTV 4 中文国际 broadcast about China's HSR, aired in two episodes, fully subtitled in English, there the testing engineer mentioned China has been applying the more stringent testing standard than the rest of the world, the tests were carried out at higher speed than what the international safety standard dictated. They are quite confident on the safety standard of the China's HSR.

The replays can be watched here (with EngSub), "Across China" series:

Running out of the world's highest speed
《走遍中国》 20161110 跑出世界最高速 | CCTV-4

(this episode has the testing segment)

Miracle like this does happen
《走遍中国》 20161114 奇迹这样发生 | CCTV-4

 

[GS Zhou]

http://weibo.com/tv/v/Ez1u4zOK4?fid=1034:cbe72e558e70c7c807523c75986ffa49

Chinese HSR collision testing

微博打不开。有其他链接吗？谢谢！

 

[AndrewJin]

Nanpanjiang High-speed Railway Bridge
Kunming-Nanning HSR
Southwest China

 

[yusheng]

微博打不开。有其他链接吗？谢谢！

try this:

https://v.qq.com/x/page/t0378w1eqwv.html

http://v.ifeng.com/news/society/201703/0119cdce-ac9f-4ea4-a218-ba1ec64d3cf2.shtml

 

[samsara]

http://weibo.com/tv/v/Ez1u4zOK4?fid=1034:cbe72e558e70c7c807523c75986ffa49

Chinese HSR collision testing

微博打不开。有其他链接吗？谢谢！

The Weibo link is just fine, I can open it in PC [using any web browser that supports flash, MSIE, Chrome, Opera, etc], but not sure if from android gadgets. But I can not grab an offline copy from the flash-based video link

Here's a more recent series about China's HSR from CCTV 4 中文国际, consists of 5 episodes, all come with EngSub.

EP 1: [Across China] 《走遍中国》 20170213 5集系列片《了不起的高铁》（1）踏地而飞 | CCTV-4

EP 2 - 20170214: youtu.be/EZ5dUYMZ2G8
EP 3 - 20170215: youtu.be/jICu6mrshjc
EP 4 - 20170216: youtu.be/lIZ3Wf6VL9o
EP 5 - 20170217: youtu.be/R0-l9bvFCHc

 

[AndrewJin]

The Weibo link is just fine, I can open it in PC [using any web browser that supports flash, MSIE, Chrome, Opera, etc], but not sure if from android gadgets. But I can not grab an offline copy from the flash-based video link

Here's a more recent series about China's HSR from CCTV 4 中文国际, consists of 5 episodes, all come with EngSub.

EP 1: [Across China] 《走遍中国》 20170213 5集系列片《了不起的高铁》（1）踏地而飞 | CCTV-4

EP 2 - 20170214: youtu.be/EZ5dUYMZ2G8
EP 3 - 20170215: youtu.be/jICu6mrshjc
EP 4 - 20170216: youtu.be/lIZ3Wf6VL9o
EP 5 - 20170217: youtu.be/R0-l9bvFCHc

Thanks for the links