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[Infra_Man99]

I agree with you. I think it's a national trait of Vietnam, to be honest. Their willful ignorance and stubbornness is useful when you have to fight American B-52s with spears covered in poop. But when your own doctors say your country is full of starving dwarf children it's probably time to acknowledge that fact and try to fix it rather than focus on the one "starving China kid in bin blah blah blah" as your only comeback.

Keep in mind that Vietnam only successfully defended against US control, because Vietnam received tremendous support from both the Soviet Union and China. The massive support came in the form of military weapons, military training, espionage, political assistance, economic aid, and some military personnel. Even then, Vietnam's military and civilian casualties were huge, and their land was heavily damaged and poisoned.

Going back on topic, the Hong Kong protesters are being exposed as useful idiots for the US. They are struggling to gain the support of most of Hong Kong.

 

[Jlaw]

talking about common sense``lol you little viets are really amazing creatures, I just used the same mechanism you applied to draw a hideous conclusion in post #7, do you want me to tell you more stories i heard in the U.K regarding viets`?

Please do.

are you kidding right`` the successful vietnamese I met in the U.K were ethnically Chinese, and they didnt want to be called viets```except the first Summer vacation job I had in Briton like 15 years ago, the owner was very nice, and he told me he was Chinese, but on the last day, before i was moving to London for Uni, i found out he was vietnamese, really nice person though

Yup that is what majority of Vietnamese tell me also while in school. They claim to be Chinese also.

 

[Rechoice]

Please do.

we will tell you too.

 

[Jlaw]

Old story, We kicked them back home already, now, they r coming and burning your house....China is on the verge of collapse. Mr. Xi cant do nothing but to sit and cry for losing HK

Hansome Joshua Wong will become HK chief

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Hey NiceGuy, do you have a hard on for Joshua Wong? You post his pics on every thread?

 

[key-CN]

American toys , throw the kind of tired .

 

[Jlaw]

Keep in mind that Vietnam only successfully defended against US control, because Vietnam received tremendous support from both the Soviet Union and China. The massive support came in the form of military weapons, military training, espionage, political assistance, economic aid, and some military personnel. Even then, Vietnam's military and civilian casualties were huge, and their land was heavily damaged and poisoned.

Going back on topic, the Hong Kong protesters are being exposed as useful idiots for the US. They are struggling to gain the support of most of Hong Kong.

It's funny because every HKers know this saying 聰明人出口笨人出手 but still get tricked for being pawns

 

[libertad]

Every US embassy in the world is a 5th column. They are dens of sedition. Haven't countries learnt already? The US government plots coups out of their embassies. From Iran to Venezuela, from Ukraine to Libya.

 

[henry he]

it is ok for us!! it doesn't make nay sense, as a chinese saying goes : if you want someone to die ,make him crazy first!

 

[key-CN]

Idiots

 

[CHN Bamboo]

香港应该在澳门前感到羞愧。
Feel shamed!HK people are poorer than those in Macao

 

[beijingwalker]

China is Hong Kong’s future – not its enemy
Protesters cry democracy but most are driven by dislocation and resentment at mainlanders’ success

• 
• • Martin Jacques
  • The Guardian, Tuesday 30 September 2014 19.45
  • The upheaval sweeping Hong Kong is more complicated than on the surface it might appear. Protests have erupted over direct elections to be held in three years’ time; democracy activists claim that China’s plans will allow it to screen out the candidates it doesn’t want.
    
    It should be remembered, however, that for 155 years until its handover to China in 1997, Hong Kong was a British colony, forcibly taken from China at the end of the first opium war. All its 28 subsequent governors were appointed by the British government. Although Hong Kong came, over time, to enjoy the rule of law and the right to protest, under the British it never enjoyed even a semblance of democracy. It was ruled from 6,000 miles away in London. The idea of any kind of democracy was first introduced by the Chinese government. In 1990 the latter adopted the Basic Law, which included the commitment that in 2017 the territory’s chief executive would be elected by universal suffrage; it also spelt out that the nomination of candidates would be a matter for a nominating committee.
    
    This proposal should be seen in the context of what was a highly innovative – and, to westerners, completely unfamiliar – constitutional approach by the Chinese. The idea of “one country, two systems” under which Hong Kong would maintain its distinctive legal and political system for 50 years. Hong Kong would, in these respects, remain singularly different from the rest of China, while at the same time being subject to Chinese sovereignty. In contrast, the western view has always embraced the principle of “one country, one system” – as, for example, in German unification. But China is more a civilisation-state than a nation-state: historically it would have been impossible to hold together such a vast country without allowing much greater flexibility. Its thinking – “one civilisation, many systems” – was shaped by its very different history.
    
    In the 17 years since the handover, China has, whatever the gainsayers might suggest, overwhelmingly honoured its commitment to the principle of one country, two systems. The legal system remains based on English law, the rule of law prevails, and the right to demonstrate, as we have seen so vividly in recent days, is still very much intact. The Chinese meant what they offered. Indeed, it can reasonably be argued that they went to extremes in their desire to be unobtrusive: sotto voce might be an apt way of describing China’s approach to Hong Kong. At the time of the handover, and in the three years I lived in Hong Kong from 1998, it was difficult to identify any visible signs of Chinese rule: I recall seeing just one Chinese flag.
    
    Notwithstanding this, Hong Kong – and its relationship with China – was in fact changing rapidly. Herein lies a fundamental reason for the present unrest: the growing sense of dislocation among a section of Hong Kong’s population. During the 20 years or so prior to the handover, the territory enjoyed its golden era – not because of the British but because of the Chinese. In 1978 Deng Xiaoping embarked on his reform programme, and China began to grow rapidly. It was still, however, a relatively closed society. Hong Kong was the beneficiary – it became the entry point to China, and as a result attracted scores of multinational companies and banks that wanted to gain access to the Chinese market. Hong Kong got rich because of China. It also fed an attitude of hubris and arrogance. The Hong Kong Chinese came to enjoy a much higher standard of living than the mainlanders. They looked down on the latter as poor, ignorant and uncouth peasants, as greatly their inferior. They preferred – up to a point – to identify with westerners rather than mainlanders, not because of democracy (the British had never allowed them any) but primarily because of money and the status that went with it.
    
    Much has changed since 1997. The Chinese economy has grown many times, the standard of living of the Chinese likewise. If you want to access the Chinese market nowadays, why move to Hong Kong when you can go straight to Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Chengdu and a host of other major cities? Hong Kong has lost its role as the gateway to China. Where previously Hong Kong was China’s unrivalled financial centre, now it is increasingly dwarfed by Shanghai. Until recently, Hong Kong was by far China’s largest port: now it has been surpassed by Shanghai and Shenzhen, and Guangzhou will shortly overtake it.
    
    Two decades ago westerners comprised the bulk of Hong Kong’s tourists, today mainlanders account for the overwhelming majority, many of them rather more wealthy than most Hong Kong Chinese. Likewise, an increasing number of mainlanders have moved to the territory – which is a growing source of resentment. If China needed Hong Kong in an earlier period, this is no longer nearly as true as it was. On the contrary, without China, Hong Kong would be in deep trouble.
    
    Understandably, many Hong Kong Chinese are struggling to come to terms with these new realities. They are experiencing a crisis of identity and a sense of displacement. They know their future is inextricably bound up with China but that is very different from embracing the fact. Yet there is no alternative: China is the future of Hong Kong.
    
    All these issues, in a most complex way, are being played out in the present arguments over universal suffrage. Hong Kong is divided. About half the population support China’s proposals on universal suffrage, either because they think they are a step forward or because they take the pragmatic view that they will happen anyway. The other half is opposed. A relatively small minority of these have never really accepted Chinese sovereignty. Anson Chan, the former head of the civil service under Chris Patten, and Jimmy Lai, a prominent businessman, fall into this category, and so do some of the Democrats. Then there is a much larger group, among them many students, who oppose Beijing’s plans for more idealistic reasons.
    
    One scenario can be immediately discounted. China will not accept the election of a chief executive hostile to Chinese rule. If the present unrest continues, then a conceivable backstop might be to continue indefinitely with the status quo, which, from the point of view of democratic change, both in Hong Kong and China, would be a retrograde step. More likely is that the Chinese government will persist with its proposals, perhaps with minor concessions, and anticipate that the opposition will slowly abate. This remains the most likely scenario.
    
    An underlying weakness of Chinese rule has nevertheless been revealed by these events. One of the most striking features of Hong Kong remains the relative absence of a mainland political presence. The Chinese have persisted with what can best be described as a hands-off approach. Their relationship to the administration is either indirect or behind the scenes. Strange as it may seem, the Chinese are not involved in the cut and thrust of political argument. They will need to find more effective ways of making their views clear and arguing their case – not in Beijing but in Hong Kong.
    
    
  • China is Hong Kong’s future – not its enemy | Martin Jacques | Comment is free | The Guardian

 

[terranMarine]

The writing is on the wall, the movement is a sign of the desperateness of the US.
In the face of a rising China, the China pivot has not delivered the desired effect the Americans had dreamed of. So what are they currently after? Instability. I have to wonder whether the US is naive into believing it will succeed or just trying to slow China down as much as possible. Democracy/Freedom is just the superficial farce and nothing more than that, if these Westerners wish HK to become like Singapore which separated from Malaysia then they can keep on hallucinating. Trying to put a hold on HK's economy will not harm China's development, if at all, as the protest won't last that long. These brainwashed students will eventually resume class. Besides HK is not even the core of Mainland's economy, it's like a mosquito trying to sting though the tough elephant skin.

The western media has always enjoyed portraying Chinese government suppressing its own people. Since HK police has used tear gas, which is quite rare in HK demonstrations , the focus by these foreign medias is again suppression. For example UK and Japan have already expressed some concerns yet they know damn well it's a domestic issue. But you don't see these foreign leaders raising any issue if it happened in the US. We saw how peaceful Occupy crowd got smacked by cops using those nasty sticks. So did UK, Japan or any of its stooges raised their voices about Freedom/Democracy? These US dogs remained silent

Sadly it's American business to sow chaos if any country is not some US dog. Well mighty China is not Libya, Iraq, Thailand, Ukraine where US can topple our government with accusations or bribe money. Just as Russia we are the Beast from the East, no one wants to fight us militarily.
Bribe money? Nah, it might work on Ukraine with Nuland's boasting of of $5 bln so called "investments"
Student protest? Pfff just how many % is that of the total Chinese population?

Face it, it's not feasible because it is unrealistic. Witness the ascension of the Mighty Dragon along with the Russian Bear.

 

[ayachyan]

Times for u guys to say your last words before your beloved China going down and collapse wt HK

Begging for US's help in 1979 is one of your most stupid mistake, and now, u guys r paying for it.

GDP of Hong Kong by 1997 was 177.353 billions dollars, and by 2013 was 274.013 billions dollars.
absolutely HK economy has been growing since handover 1997.
while mainland GDP by 1997 was 952.653 billions dollars and by 2013 that was 9.24 trillions dollars. (it is trillion level !)
mainland grows almost 10 times but HK just twice.
it is not HK stop growing, it is mainland grows too damn rapidly !

PS: just for fun let's see our viet friends' data, it is 26.844 billions dollars by 1997 and 171.392 billions dollars by 2013.
by the way, the GDP for Guangxi province(one of the provinces in China and also viet's good neighbor ) was 210.178 billions dollars by 2012. Guangxi is not the richest province in China though.
viets, i give you some words, "find the right enemy before fighting".

 

[Infra_Man99]

The US arm, supply, and train the protesters and rebels in Syria, Ukraine, an Libya. The US media corporations and government agencies train and support the protesters in Hong Kong.

In the US, Occupy Wall Street and Michael Brown protesters are arrested or forced to go home.

Rev. Osagyefo Uhuru Sekou was arrested in Ferguson Monday night as he rallied ministers calling for the arrest of Darren Wilson, the officer who shot Mike Brown.

I'm predicting the more China challenges the US petrodollar for international exchanges and reserves, the more China acquires precious metals and buys up natural resources, the more China trades with the world, and the more successful China becomes, the more desperate the Zionist West will act toward China. They frantically search for any domestic and international weaknesses to destabilize China.

 

[Muzits]

GDP of Hong Kong by 1997 was 177.353 billions dollars, and by 2013 was 274.013 billions dollars.
absolutely HK economy has been growing since handover 1997.
while mainland GDP by 1997 was 952.653 billions dollars and by 2013 that was 9.24 trillions dollars. (it is trillion level !)
mainland grows almost 10 times but HK just twice.
it is not HK stop growing, it is mainland grows too damn rapidly !

PS: just for fun let's see our viet friends' data, it is 26.844 billions dollars by 1997 and 171.392 billions dollars by 2013.
by the way, the GDP for Guangxi province(one of the provinces in China and also viet's good neighbor ) was 210.178 billions dollars by 2012. Guangxi is not the richest province in China though.
viets, i give you some words, "find the right enemy before fighting".

oh plz don't take GX to compare with the shit VN,it's a shame of GX.GX is like one of the most backward province of China.and Guangxi has only half ppl of VN,GX's economy is much larger than VN,and GX's annual growth is about twice as VN,so the economy distance between GX and VN could only gets larger and larger.and even the most backward province of China,Guizhou's personal capital GDP is several times of VN,so plz don't take any province of China to compare with that piece of shit. = =