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The boss always need hard working slave, but when slave become lazy and bad, the boss have no choice, but to teach that bad slave a hard lesson.

So, stop violating 'human rights' in HK or u will lose ur jobs in Foxconn :pop:
do vietmonkeys have any rights at all in your vietcong controlled and ravaged Zoo?
 
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No need to apply any harsh measures. Chinese Govt. is handling pretty well. Its just a game of nerves. People will eventually get tired of sitting there and sloganeering. A violent reaction on government part will close this thing sooner but will also result in bad PR. I dont think there is any need to resort to that for now.
Bro, Kids like Joshua Wong never feel tired coz they dont have wife-kid to take care of, remember Tienanmen protest made by students ??

we should Never underestimate those kids.
 
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Four Russian banks plan to issue dim sum bonds in Hong Kong

Four Russian lenders plan dim sum bonds in Hong Kong as Western sanctions on Moscow accelerate move away from dollar settlements
Toh Han Shihhanshih.toh@scmp.com


PUBLISHED : Monday, 29 September, 2014, 3:58am
UPDATED : Monday, 29 September, 2014, 3:58am

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Russia is the fourth-largest trading partner of China. Photo: AFP

At least four Russian banks will issue up to 2.5 billion yuan (HK$3.1 billion) in dim sum bonds in Hong Kong by early next year, as Western sanctions against Russia accelerate a switch by the country's lenders from US dollars to the mainland and Russian currencies.

International financing has tightened for Russian banks, after the US government announced on September 12 restrictions on six Russian state-owned banks including the largest, Sberbank.

Three Russian banks plan to issue 2 billion yuan of dim sum bonds in Hong Kong early next year, said Elena Trofimova, chief executive of International Bridge for Cooperation, Development & Investments (ICDI), declining to name them. A fourth, RosinterBank, has announced similar plans.

ICDI, a Russian partly state-owned firm that connects Russian companies with international firms, is advising the banks on their Hong Kong bond issue.

RosinterBank, the first mid-sized Russian lender to issue dim sum bonds, hopes to make a private placement worth 500 million yuan by early November, said its deputy chairman Konstantin Vorobiev.

Although the 500 million yuan bond was not a large amount, it was part of RosinterBank's strategy to explore Asia's financial markets, Vorobiev added. "Other Russian banks are keeping an eye on this deal. If this deal is successful … it will become a trend."

RosinterBank also hopes to list in Hong Kong in three years and raise possibly US$100 million, Vorobiev added.

More than 90 per cent of the settlement between Russia and China is conducted in US dollars, but in five to 10 years, most of it will be in yuan and roubles, Vorobiev predicted.

This could mean US$100 billion of US dollar transactions may switch to the two currencies in the coming years, given that Xinhua reported trade between China and Russia is expected to rise to US$100 billion this year from US$88.16 billion in 2012.

As China and Russia switched from the US dollar to the yuan and rouble, the US dollar would depreciate, Vorobiev said. "This is why we urge our clients to move from US dollars to RMB."

Most of RosinterBank's clients are Russian companies, some of which do business in China.

This currency shift will be globally significant only if the settlement between Russia and China is mostly in yuan and it becomes convertible, said Charles Dumas, chairman of Lombard Street Research, a London economic research firm.

Xu Chenggang, an economics professor at Hong Kong University, said the shift from US dollars to the rouble and the yuan will help the bilateral trade between China and Russia.

"The major impact of this bilateral trade is to reduce the effect of the economic sanctions against Russia. Other than this, its general impact to world trade will be limited," Xu said.

China is Russia's top trade partner while Russia is the fourth-largest trading partner of China, and economic ties between both nations "will become closer", Vorobiev said.
 
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Please SPARE ME and the other friends who can read Hanzi here from opening google translation everytime we need to read your posts guys.
I'm sorry, because Chinese than English fast and effective to use too much, so I can't help but want to speak in Chinese. I hope you can understand.

People r watching China going to collapse due to student protest again like in Tienanmen square. So pls dont drag VN in. We wont collapse like u :pop:
Strange why do you like to take the tiananmen incident and the American agents to provide some students weapon, let they burned alive the people's liberation army soldiers, why your media did not report? Falun gong destroyed many Chinese families you why not reported in the press? Tibetan compatriots get preferential policies in xinjiang with far more than the Chinese han nationality, why didn't you report?

In trying to protect national culture language, China set up the many terms help each nation's culture alive, why didn't you report? China only limit we han Chinese, family planning, ethnic minorities have more reward, why do you haven't reported? If not, welcome to China! Please don't speculating before the facts! Thank you very much!
 
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Lool you always win at the end? What's that suppose to mean bro? How many battles/things have you won at the end? Lol
The ability of the U. S to be able to influence/finance/instigate protests globally against its rivals, is a show of just how powerful and influential it is. In fact China (and to a lesser extent even Russia ) ar still lplaying a defensive game, not because they want but because they are very weak and vulnerable unlike what many of us think.
In fact even Iran is more /less more successful in thwarting any foreign influence in its country than China /Russia. There are no xijiang like regular terrorists bombings /stabbings etc in Iran, nor are there are any Chechen like terrorists groups roaming the country commiting suicide bombings /fighting the government etc.

As far as China and Russia can't even handle their internal issues /problems (which I must confess our governments /intelligence agencies have a hand in.. 8-)), then how do they even think they can even challenge us(west/U.S)?o_O Lol

As for the protests and U. S/U.K involvement, of course I don't find anything wrong in that. As I said any established powers will always try and undermine any upcoming one, irregardless of the country. So no surprise in that, only the naive /stupid who don't understand geo politis will find it immoral /illegal /hegemoistic. :lol: politics is not a fairy tale and never will be :D




Lool Even if we did financed the protests , so what? lol this is the law of the jungle, if you can't survive /retaliate then stay silent and hide :sniper::wacko:


comes from the country that lost almost 40% of its territory, you had to manipulate the vote results in order to win the scotland referendum. The UK will be very easy in the coming years to destabilize. North Ireland wont be forever separated as borders and EU integration will water down these barriers and scotland was your save place but just in a decade you got a separation movement from no where which also wont go away while argentinia is still grooming for your falkland islands.

UK is now always near collapsing, you used to project power but now your irrelevant and collapsing any moment. Of course your big bro America will do the job but will he make it for your interrests there? haha keep dreaming
 
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Nah-ah, my friend Beidou. There is something called diplomatic immunity that exempts foreign diplomats from all of the local laws; just read up on the political firestorm that came of Raymond Allen Davis' incident in Pakistan.

Diplomatic immunity doesn't stop you from ejecting people you don't want. You can't throw them in jail, but you can send them home.
 
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Lool you always win at the end? What's that suppose to mean bro? How many battles/things have you won at the end? Lol
The ability of the U. S to be able to influence/finance/instigate protests globally against its rivals, is a show of just how powerful and influential it is. In fact China (and to a lesser extent even Russia ) ar still lplaying a defensive game, not because they want but because they are very weak and vulnerable unlike what many of us think.
In fact even Iran is more /less more successful in thwarting any foreign influence in its country than China /Russia. There are no xijiang like regular terrorists bombings /stabbings etc in Iran, nor are there are any Chechen like terrorists groups roaming the country commiting suicide bombings /fighting the government etc.

As far as China and Russia can't even handle their internal issues /problems (which I must confess our governments /intelligence agencies have a hand in.. 8-)), then how do they even think they can even challenge us(west/U.S)?o_O Lol

As for the protests and U. S/U.K involvement, of course I don't find anything wrong in that. As I said any established powers will always try and undermine any upcoming one, irregardless of the country. So no surprise in that, only the naive /stupid who don't understand geo politis will find it immoral /illegal /hegemoistic. :lol: politics is not a fairy tale and never will be :D




Lool Even if we did financed the protests , so what? lol this is the law of the jungle, if you can't survive /retaliate then stay silent and hide :sniper::wacko:

After the protests die down, the Chinese government will bring the hammer down in ruthless and uncompromising fashion on all the protesters and its foreign financiers which include foreign NGO's, USAID, foreign media, foreign religious groups, foreign academics and foreign embassies and consulates.

This protest was the excuse China needed to shut down the foreign financiers. Just like the Snowden revelations was the excuse China needed to dismantle the spine of foreign tech companies in China which is currently underway.

The harder you push against the CPC, the more ruthless response will be. Hong Kong will lose pretty much all of its freedoms after this protest movement ends.

China will do what it wants, when it wants in Chinese territory.

The Communist Party of China is judge, jury and executioner.

End of story! :coffee:

Nah-ah, my friend Beidou. There is something called diplomatic immunity that exempts foreign diplomats from all of the local laws; just read up on the political firestorm that came of Raymond Allen Davis' incident in Pakistan.

China can always sign a law that says any foreign diplomats that are a threat to China's national security will lose diplomatic immunity and will face prison time or execution under Chinese law.

China being a powerful country can do whatever it wants, when it wants. It's one of the privileges of being a big and powerful country.
 
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I have these concerns that I like to address with serious curiosity:

1. I was wondering what are the long-term consequences if the Hong Kong protesters keep locking down the city for another couple of weeks or so?

2. If these "Hong Kongers" or Hong Kongese" protesters completely choose their own city leaders as they demanded without consent from Beijing, I speculate that these new independent leaders would secretly work on a way to make Hong Kong more separated from Beijing and not closer by 2047. In other words, with each new open election in Hong Kong after 2017, a new or incumbent leader would continue to transition Hong Kong away from mainland China during each office term, away from Beijing because these elected leaders do not answer to Beijing. I suspect these are the ulterior motives of the protesters in a desperate attempt to save their "democracy" long enough after 2047. Thus, they will try to make Hong Kong further away and not closer to being absorbed by the mainland between now and 2047.


What are your thoughts?
 
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Tear gas is a pretty old method.

I've heard US or Israel using stink technology to give an unbearable smell.
I've heard of noise technology where they can put out incredible deafening noises.
I've heard of electric shock technology that gives burning sensations that burns your organs.

China needs to update its technology.
 
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The following need to be kicked out of Mainland China, Hong Kong and Macau:
1) USAID.
2) foreign NGO's.
3) foreign media and all their journalists.
4) foreign religious groups.
5) foreign academics and lawyers that support anti-China activities.
6) foreign companies that engage in anti-China activities.

And severe restrictions must be placed on foreign embassy and consulate personnel.
 
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NGOs need to be kicked out, HK police is more than enough to handle this.

The following need to be kicked out PERMANENTLY:
1) USAID.
2) foreign NGO's.
3) foreign media and all their journalists.
4) foreign religious groups.
5) foreign academics and lawyers that support anti-China activities.

And severe restrictions must be placed on foreign embassy and consulate personnel.
 
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1. The protest is already over. Although HK get a bit of recession during the day.

2. Yup! US is democracy. And democracy is coming to HK. Democracy will rule HK, and Beijing need to ask them for permission for HK matter. Everyone know it.

I'd like to hear a more academic , pragmatic answer from some of our well known Chinese members.

@SinoSoldier , @Chinese-Dragon , @Genesis , @Raphael , @TaiShang , @sahaliyan , @Okemos , @ChineseTiger1986

You didn't mention about me?

All you mentioned above are Communist.

Decedent of Russian.

The following need to be kicked out of Mainland China, Hong Kong and Macau:
1) USAID.
2) foreign NGO's.
3) foreign media and all their journalists.
4) foreign religious groups.
5) foreign academics and lawyers that support anti-China activities.

And severe restrictions must be placed on foreign embassy and consulate personnel.

More Talk Less Action! = CCP!

You can talk about it, but it does nothing to the reality.

Frustrating...
 
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1. The protest is already over. Although HK get a bit of recession during the day.

2. Yup! US is democracy. And democracy is coming to HK. Democracy will rule HK, and Beijing need to ask them for permission for HK matter. Everyone know it.



You didn't mention about me?

All you mentioned above are Communist.

Decedent of Russian.


That was my fault for forgetting, accept my sincere apologies.

@Kolaps
 
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