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When it comes to bargaining chips, President Xi Jinping is hedging his bets. The leader of China and the chairman of the country’s ruling Communist Party made that crystal clear last week when he stressed that increasing semiconductor production had become a priority.

As the trade dispute with the United States develops into a battle of technology, the world’s second-largest economy is being forced to revamp its small domestic chip sector or face being frozen out of the market.

If that happened, the consequences for the country’s high-tech industries, and Xi’s cornerstone ‘Made in China 2025’ policy, would be catastrophic.

To underline the problem, Xi talked openly about the enormous challenges during a visit to inspect integrated circuit assembly lines at the Xinxin Semiconductor Manufacturing Corporation in Wuhan.

“No matter how big a person is, he or she can never be strong without a sound and strong heart,” he said, using a typical home-spun metaphor to urge domestic tech companies to strive for major breakthroughs in semiconductor technology.

The task will be daunting. A glance at the global industry illustrates how far behind the nation is when it comes to chip manufacturing, and research and development.

Last year, revenue from the semiconductor sector in the US edged close to US$250 billion compared to China’s miserly $24.7 billion, statistics from IEK, which is part of the government-sponsored Industrial Technology Research Institute in Taiwan, showed.

Technological powerhouse
With such a disparity, it is hardly surprising that Chinese companies have to import about $200 billion worth of chips from the US each year.

In turn, this has left Beijing exposed, threatening the whole concept of Xi’s plan to turn China into a technological powerhouse and putting at risk ‘smart’ companies such as ZTE, Huawei and Xiaomi.

Even online giants like Baidu, Alibaba and Tencent, or the BAT grouping, as well as JD.com, could feel the aftershocks if the supply of semiconductors dried up.

For China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation, it would also seriously curtail its satellite and space programs.

While this is strictly a ‘doomsday scenario,’ it cannot be ruled out as President Donald Trump’s team prepares to visit China in the next seven days for tough trade talks in Beijing.

“Chinese companies have a large task ahead, given their talent and capability gaps, the high bar for global leadership, and the need for the country’s global champions to be the top one or two players in their segments,” Christopher Thomas, a principal at global consulting firm McKinsey in Beijing, said in a report back in 2015.

“The more segments and technologies in which China attempts to be number one, the more diffuse industry and government efforts will be. The more companies that attempt to become the Chinese champion for a certain segment, the more the best talent will be spread across too many teams,” he added.

Three years later, very little has changed. Data from Bloomberg showed that Intel, Broadcom and Qualcomm, the US suppliers of semiconductors for smartphones and computers, had at least 10 times the market value of China’s biggest chipmaker Shenzhen Huiding Technology.

As for processors used in high-end electronic products, American companies dominate the landscape. Chinese chips tend to be used in low-end items such as bank and key cards.

“The gap is still huge and the semiconductor industry is capital- and labor-intensive” Dai Ming, a money manager at Hengsheng Asset Management in Shanghai, told the South China Morning Post. “It requires massive investment and technology accumulation. In the short term, it’s difficult for China to catch up with the US.”

In a move to address the problem, The National Integrated Circuitry Investment Fund, or “Big Fund,” plans to roll out new investment opportunities to boost local chip production and R&D.

Backed by the Chinese government, NICIF announced it was close to closing a 120 billion yuan ($18.98 billion) investment round for a second fund to support the industry, Reuters news agency reported.

Indeed, urgency has become the buzzword around Beijing’s corridors of power after the US Justice Department started investigating Huawei for suspected violations of export sanctions to Iran.

Last week’s decision came after fellow tech conglomerate ZTE was barred in April from buying US-made components, such as semiconductors, for seven years.

Spooked Beijing
The incidents have spooked Beijing and are seen by Xi’s administration as an attempt to wreck the country’s booming high-tech sector.

“Following the ZTE incident, China has basically reached a consensus to develop its own chip technology,” Zhang Lili, a research fellow with the Pangoal Institution, a public policy think tank in Beijing, said in an opinion piece for Global Times.

“However, making semiconductors is very complicated, involving more than 50 industries and 2,000 to 5,000 processes. Some observers have said that mere enthusiasm alone won’t lead to success and China may not achieve chip breakthroughs on its own,” he added in the state-owned newspaper.

Finding partners in any ’semiconductor war’ with Washington might be difficult as the other major players, Japan, South Korea and Taiwan, would probably be reluctant to break ranks with the US in an industry which generated more than $420 billion last year, Statista, an online statistics portal, revealed.

They will be hoping that cooler heads prevail before the broader trade dispute escalates into a trade war. Yet hopes of a quick settlement appear to be fading, judging by the rhetoric from both sides.

“High technology is the core competitiveness of the US, but with China’s development getting more attention in recent years, the US fears losing its advantages and may adopt stricter measures against China,” Zhang wrote. “We need to prepare mentally for this.”

Still, in this particular game of ‘cold war trade’ poker, China holds very few chips.

http://www.atimes.com/article/china-has-too-few-chips-to-play-in-high-stakes-tech-game/
 
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u.s will also lose as china is buyer of their semiconductor chips.china should focus on indigenous chips and until it chip making industry booms they should reduce production of products with high quality chips and increase production of other products to balance revenue loss
 
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u.s will also lose as china is buyer of their semiconductor chips.china should focus on indigenous chips and until it chip making industry booms they should reduce production of products with high quality chips and increase production of other products to balance revenue loss
China should dump all semiconductor prices. Yay to cheap electronics. Damn to all monopolies and cartels.
 
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The truth of the matter is, neither China nor the US can really scare each other in this. The way forward is through trade and cooperation, not trade wars and protectionism. That is true for both sides.
Why is US happy they just shot themselves and are threatning to decrease their exports?
 
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Why is US happy they just shot themselves and are threatning to decrease their exports?

Right now we are still at the posturing level really (from both sides). The current US executive was brought to power partly via a pledge to revert what they call "horrible, one-sided bilateral trade" with the rest of the world. And getting tough on China polls extremely well with the voting base currently.

A real (not in words, actions) trade war would be extremely detrimental to both countries, and to the World Economy at large. Both sides know this.
 
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Americans in 1990: China will never be able to compete with US manufacturing.

Americans in 2000: China will never be able to match US supercomputers.

Americans in 2018: China will never challenge US superiority in semiconductor.

Okay then, you Americans should have nothing to worry about.
 
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Chip Wars: Tech rivalry underlies US-China trade conflict

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In this April 10, 2018, file photo, China’s President Xi Jinping prepares to deliver his opening speech at the Boao Forum for Asia Annual Conference in Boao in south China’s Hainan province. Chinese and American officials will be trying to defuse tensions pushing the world’s two largest economies toward trade war in meetings in Beijing beginning Thursday, May 3, 2018. Analysts say that chances for a breakthrough seem slim given the two sides’ desperate rivalry in strategic technologies such as semiconductors that underlies the dispute.


by Kelvin Chan | AP May 3 at 1:11 AM

HONG KONG — Chinese and American officials will be trying to defuse tensions pushing the world’s two largest economies toward trade war in meetings beginning Thursday where analysts say chances for a breakthrough seem slim given the two sides’ desperate rivalry in strategic technologies.

Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and other U.S. officials including Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross and U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer arrived Thursday for the talks in Beijing. Liu He, President Xi Jinping’s top economic adviser, is heading the Chinese side in the talks.

President Donald Trump said he expected relations with Beijing to remain smooth.

“Our great financial team is in China trying to negotiate a level playing field on trade!” he said on Twitter late Wednesday. “I look forward to being with President Xi in the not too distant future. We will always have a good (great) relationship!”

Regardless of the huge U.S. trade deficit often decried by Trump, Chinese companies are struggling to overtake western industry leaders in advanced technologies, especially for semiconductors, the silicon brains required to run smartphones, connected cars, cloud computing and artificial intelligence.

Under Xi, a program known as “Made in China 2025” aims to make China a tech superpower by advancing development of industries that in addition to semiconductors includes artificial intelligence, pharmaceuticals and electric vehicles. The plan mostly involves subsidizing Chinese firms. But it also requires foreign companies to provide key details about their technology to Chinese partners.

Beijing looks unlikely to cede any ground on that strategic blueprint.

“The Made in China 2025 industrial policy concerns China’s long-term development plan, so the overall direction won’t change at all,” said Yu Miaojie, professor at Peking University’s National School of Development. Yu says China would rather cut the trade deficit by importing high-tech products from the U.S. that are currently tightly restricted.

U.S firms gripe that Chinese policies compel them to share technologies in order to gain market access. Those complaints bely Beijing’s decades-long, still unsuccessful struggle to catch up, especially in the area of semiconductors.

Washington’s recent decision to ban Chinese telecom gear maker ZTE from importing U.S. components in a sanctions-related case drove home to Beijing its costly vulnerability to foreign sources for advanced microchips.

The Trump administration’s efforts may actually spur China to ramp up efforts to develop its domestic industry as it strives to fulfill Xi’s vision, said Jian-Hong Lin, an analyst at research firm TrendForce.

China will be even more determined “to realize self-reliance in semiconductor technology,” he said.

The “Made in China 2025” plan calls for domestic producers to supply 70 percent of the country’s chip demand.

China now consumes nearly 60 percent of the world’s semiconductors but supplies only about 16 percent, according to PWC. The country spends more than $200 billion a year on foreign-made semiconductors, which in 2015 surpassed crude oil as the country’s biggest import.

Experts say increasingly high technological hurdles and a meager talent pool are hindering the effort to catch up with dominant U.S., Japanese, South Korean and Taiwanese manufacturers.

They say Chinese chipmakers are five years behind their U.S. and Asian rivals when it comes to leading edge chip technology, and have made no progress in recent years. Those advanced chips are highly complex to make because of their increasingly tiny “nodes,” measured in nanometers, that make them faster and more power-efficient.

And even as Chinese researchers and chipmakers strive to catch up, the technology is evolving, with new materials transforming the future landscape of the electronics industry.

Larry Kudlow, Trump’s economic adviser, is among those due to join the meetings in Beijing. He has acknowledged it would take time to persuade China to let U.S. companies compete in the Chinese market without being forced to surrender their technological know-how.

Still, Beijing is backing up its towering ambitions in the semiconductor sector with money and tax breaks. The government set up the National Integrated Circuit Industry Investment Fund in 2014, seeded with 140 billion yuan ($22 billion) in capital to invest in chip companies. A second round of fundraising for as much as 200 billion yuan is underway, Chinese media report.

The state-controlled Tsinghua Unigroup project, associated with Tsinghua University — China’s equivalent of MIT — emerged as a national champion after buying two Chinese chip design firms, Spreadtrum and RDA Microelectronics in 2013. It’s building two massive memory chip factories, including a $30 billion facility in Nanjing that will churn out 100,000 wafers a month and is expected to exert a “siphon effect,” drawing microchip industry suppliers and experts to the area.

It’s unclear how successful those efforts will be.

One of Beijing’s strategies, acquiring overseas chipmaking-related firms, has faced resistance from foreign regulators. Washington has scuppered multiple China-linked bids for semiconductor-related firms — a trend that began about the same time that a White House advisory panel urged in January last year, before President Donald Trump took office, more protections for the industry because of China’s industrial policies.

Market leaders like Samsung and Intel each command about 14 percent of the global memory chip market, according to Gartner research. Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing, South Korea’s Hynix, Micron Technology and Qualcomm of the U.S. and Japan’s Toshiba also are major chipmakers.

“Even though they’ve committed a lot of money to the investment fund, the reality has sunk in that it’s harder than just throwing money at the problem. The Samsungs of the world, the TSMCs have a large head start,” said Alexander Wolf, an economist at Aberdeen Standard Investments. “Certain products, you can’t really reverse engineer.”

While some companies like Huawei and ZTE are avidly pursuing advanced semiconductor technology, experts say overall Chinese research and development spending is a fraction of the multibillion-dollar budgets of the big players. That’s one reason Beijing’s success is anything but a given.

“These things are built from thousands of engineers of different disciplines pulling it together,” said Christopher Thomas, a Beijing-based partner at consulting firm McKinsey, who estimates it will take a decade for China’s efforts to result in any meaningful shift. “You’ve got to solve all the complexity to catch up. You can’t just solve one thing.”

AP writer Gillian Wong and researcher Yu Bing contributed to this report from Beijing.
 
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The truth of the matter is, neither China nor the US can really scare each other in this. The way forward is through trade and cooperation, not trade wars and protectionism. That is true for both sides.
Apparently yankees think they should be winner of everythings!
 
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This is getting really dumb. China CAN manufacture chips. China CAN manufacture photolithographic machines. The US is indeed slightly ahead, but the difference is not as big as it thinks and economically and commercially it makes sense for Chinese companies to buy American chips because they are cheaper and a generation ahead of Chinese designs. However, in case of a trade war, it is not a huge deal for Chinese consumers to use chips of slightly older design. It is basically iPhone 6 v. iPhone X issue. The iPhone 6 still gets the job done. If Chinese companies invests more on chips they CAN and WILL catch up.

No doubt that American sanction will knock China back a few years, but it can only delay China's progress by a few years. On the other hand, US companies will permanently lose the Chinese market, which, by the way, was $240 billion last year.

Lastly, the US cannot manufacture latest chips by itself, either. Companies like Lam Research only make certain types of chip machines. ASML is a dutch company, and it sells to Intel, Taiwan Semiconductor, and Samsung, and Chinese companies make some of the best Etching machines. Huawei HiSense is already one of the leading chip designers, and Chinese military chip designers are already 100% domestic (military chips usually use older and more reliable technology than civilian chips). The chip making ecological system is complicated and frankly no country in the world can do it all alone.
 
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I'm not expert. My feelings is like, get a design software, train yourself the design trick, and send it to foundry. Isn't it that easy?
 
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I'm not expert. My feelings is like, get a design software, train yourself the design trick, and send it to foundry. Isn't it that easy?
Not that easy my freind.
Design is already difficult enough!
For manufacturing,China has its own manufacturers,currently speaking they have no last technologies may be 25nm or 20nm they are not that popular,while TSMC and Samsung has 15 nm,10nm or even 7 nm and 3 nm techs...

For low end or low requirement chips,China has no problems at all.

The main issue now is that US yankees is afraid of China and is trying to stop China from climbing to the high end field in order to maintain their economical hegemony!
That is why those dirty works revealed!
 
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This is getting really dumb. China CAN manufacture chips. China CAN manufacture photolithographic machines. The US is indeed slightly ahead, but the difference is not as big as it thinks and economically and commercially it makes sense for Chinese companies to buy American chips because they are cheaper and a generation ahead of Chinese designs. However, in case of a trade war, it is not a huge deal for Chinese consumers to use chips of slightly older design. It is basically iPhone 6 v. iPhone X issue. The iPhone 6 still gets the job done. If Chinese companies invests more on chips they CAN and WILL catch up.

No doubt that American sanction will knock China back a few years, but it can only delay China's progress by a few years. On the other hand, US companies will permanently lose the Chinese market, which, by the way, was $240 billion last year.

Lastly, the US cannot manufacture latest chips by itself, either. Companies like Lam Research only make certain types of chip machines. ASML is a dutch company, and it sells to Intel, Taiwan Semiconductor, and Samsung, and Chinese companies make some of the best Etching machines. Huawei HiSense is already one of the leading chip designers, and Chinese military chip designers are already 100% domestic (military chips usually use older and more reliable technology than civilian chips). The chip making ecological system is complicated and frankly no country in the world can do it all alone.

I agree with you.

BTW, They said that ZTE is the one who hurt most in the import ban by the US. And that ban has already has seal the fate of 1500 Qualcomm employees. But why we haven't read / find any article / news about "ZTE decrease their workforce"? They should fire a lot of their employees, aren't they? to avoid the problem that caused by the ban?

Looking at this, Qualcomm is hurt more than ZTE, it seems.
 
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