‘China has no strategy to strangle India’

[IndoCarib]

As usual india overestimate themselve badly, sorry mate you are not on our radar all the time

Looking at the chinese on PDF, India is on your radar all the time. You guys just dont admit it.

 

[eachus]

if want to have fun and some arguments, yes, talking to Indians has too many topics. But from country strategy level, will you tell me which area they are close other than population? once a while, China and India had similar GDP, now India is out of gas in economic race. similarly on defense budget, with barely $40B, Indians government deficit is in deep red, Rupee deflates, lost 20% value against dollar lately. Chinese spent well over $140B, some Americans suggested maybe $200B. LCA is not finish, J20 is in sky and 2nd stealthy is moving under the sun.

I tried hard to find what Indian can match, please help and let the topic continue.

 

[jbond197]

if want to have fun and some arguments, yes, talking to Indians has too many topics. But from country strategy level, will you tell me which area they are close other than population? once a while, China and India had similar GDP, now India is out of gas in economic race. similarly on defense budget, with barely $40B, Indians government deficit is in deep red, Rupee deflates, lost 20% value against dollar lately. Chinese spent well over $140B, some Americans suggested maybe $200B. LCA is not finish, J20 is in sky and 2nd stealthy is moving under the sun.

I tried hard to find what Indian can match, please help and let the topic continue.

There is no denying China is much ahead of India..

But that BS to say that India is out of gas on economic front.. There are issues world over.. China is faltering as well. Your Factory output has gone down for the past 8 months and India's PMI has only gone up. The economic data that comes out of China is all fake. About currency, Ruppee is freely traded currency unlike Yuan which exists in tight Chinese controls. Also Ruppee is recovering for the past few weeks just let Yuan freely traded then only we will know how will be it's performance.

Defense budget, we don't need to spend $140 billion, our enemies are not the same. We have good enough deterrents against any ill intending nations and that's all we need. India has no issues with Russia/USA who are your competitor and if you compare your defense budget with American who is China's supposed enemy then your budget is just laughable.

LCA is in sky with 8 prototypes, that I know off, already in use. The mass production is supposed to be in 2012. Let me know how many prototypes of J20 are already is use and when the mass production will be started.

Stop living in delusions, every one goes through the cycle of development some comes early some late but only loud mouth can laugh at others when not so long back they were in the same position..

Anyways I can't make any futuristic claims but the fact that India is making good progress year on year that is good enough for us.. As long as India is helping it's poor it's a good sign..

 

[Shatterpoint]

China is basically a bully, they go around beating their chest and making demands and threats to the smaller countries, but as soon as these smaller countries stand up to them, they run away like cowards with their tails between their legs, and that is typical bully behavior, all talk no action.

 

[ChinaToday]

There is no denying China is much ahead of India..

But that BS to say that India is out of gas on economic front.. There are issues world over.. China is faltering as well. Your Factory output has gone down for the past 8 months and India's PMI has only gone up. The economic data that comes out of China is all fake. About currency, Ruppee is freely traded currency unlike Yuan which exists in tight Chinese controls. Also Ruppee is recovering for the past few weeks just let Yuan freely traded then only we will know how will be it's performance.

Defense budget, we don't need to spend $140 billion, our enemies are not the same. We have good enough deterrents against any ill intending nations and that's all we need. India has no issues with Russia/USA who are your competitor and if you compare your defense budget with American who is China's supposed enemy then your budget is just laughable.

LCA is in sky with 8 prototypes, that I know off, already used. The mass production is supposed to be in 2012. Let me know how many prototypes of J20 are already is use and when the mass production will be started.

Stop living in delusions, every one goes through the cycle of development some comes early some late but only loud mouth can laugh at others when not so long back they were in the same position..

Anyways I can't make any futuristic claims but the fact that India is making good progress year on year that is good enough for us.. As long as India is helping it's poor it's a good sign..

india still nothing compare to china period

 

[jbond197]

india still nothing compare to china period

Read the very first line of my post high IQ Chini!!

and then read the rest of the post in context with the post to which i replied back to..

Now, if you consider India as nothing compared to China, you are welcome to step inside Indian territory if you got enough guts to do so. Loud mouths, you can not do anything against Taiwan and small SCS countries.. You can only bully them and after some time back off that's all your worth is..

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

There is no denying China is much ahead of India..

But that BS to say that India is out of gas on economic front..

LOL, there is a reason why India is the ONLY country in BRIC that is getting downgraded left and right.

India's economic fundamentals are shot, India has a far worse budget deficit than even the worst performing developed countries like Portugal and Italy. And at least they are developed, so they can afford to have such bad deficits. India can't.

BBC News - Is the India growth story over?

 

[jbond197]

LOL, there is a reason why India is the ONLY country in BRIC that is getting downgraded left and right.

India's economic fundamentals are shot, India has a far worse budget deficit than even the worst performing developed countries like Portugal and Italy. And at least they are developed, so they can afford to have such bad deficits. India can't.

BBC News - Is the India growth story over?

Here comes the biggest joker of PDF? do you think anybody takes you the troll any seriously here?

There are various kind of headlines in the media

World Bank goes bullish on India’s growth story

Ignore the Alarmist Headlines: The India Growth Story & Opportunity Continues

China’s PMI contracts, while India’s edges up: HSBC

Why Moody’s is not negative on India

GE bullish on India, asks for govt policies to boost growth

Now, do they decide which turn a nation is gonna take or what's going to be the future? I don't know but you genius of PDF may be able to predict something out of your wishful thinking..

And on the contrary to your belief, Indian PMI has constantly remained positive and moved up which is not the case of China.. anyways, think what ever you want to think, it will not impact anyone..

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Here comes the biggest joker of PDF? do you think anybody takes you the troll any seriously here?

LOL, you can't even counter simple facts.

Here is the source:

BRICs Biggest Currency Depreciation Since 1998 to Worsen - Bloomberg

In India, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh is grappling with trade and budget deficits, corruption scandals and fighting in the ruling coalition. The country may become the first among the BRIC nations to lose its investment-grade rating, Standard & Poor’s and Fitch Ratings said this month.

India’s budget gap amounted to 5.8 percent of gross domestic product, compared with 4.2 percent in Portugal and 3.9 percent in Italy, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

India has a far worse budget deficit then even the worst performing developed economies like Portugal and Italy.

Portugal and Italy are at least developed, they can afford to run such a large deficit. India on the other hand is not even close to being developed, yet their deficit is actually worse.

 

[jbond197]

^^^
Read my post again. A big part of it you purposefully ignored so that you can troll further..

Btw, how are the pro-democracy protests in Hong kong going on? Are the locusts doing anything to curb the protests?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

^^^
Read my post again. A big part of it you purposefully ignored so that you can troll further..

Btw, how are the pro-democracy protests in Hong kong going on? Are the locusts doing anything to curb the protests?

LOL, you have tried to avoid the point at least three times so far.

Why should China want to strangle India, when India has worse economic fundamentals than even the worst developed economies like Portugal and Italy, and while both S&P and Fitch are downgrading India, soon to "junk" status?

Calculate what 5.3% of $1.6 trillion is, then tell me how long it will take India to get to China's current GDP, which is $7.3 trillion.

 

[jbond197]

LOL, you have tried to avoid the point at least three times so far.

Why should China want to strangle India, when India has worse economic fundamentals than even the worst developed economies like Portugal and Italy, and while both S&P and Fitch are downgrading India, soon to "junk" status?

Calculate what 5.3% of $1.6 trillion is, then tell me how long it will take India to get to China's current GDP, which is $7.3 trillion.

What the heck?? I think every point of your is already answered in the articles of World Bank and Moody's.. Do you think you hold better credential than World Bank officials or Moody's analysts? Why do you think they have not considered at all the aspects before coming to media? S&P and Fitch had just given the warnings not downgraded already so stop beating your trumpet around it..

Tell me, why should I worry about how long will it take to reach that GDP? Did I mentioned at all about it anywhere in any of my posts?

Now look at China hidden debt, hidden deficit, protests, slowdown in PMI, slowdown in economy

China facing a hidden debt crisis | Video | Reuters.com

Direct local govt bonds halted|Economy|chinadaily.com.cn

A Hidden Problem For China?

China’s budget tricks: hidden deficit

With such a huge amount of Fakery involved, no one can say anything with surety about China. Apart from fake data, there has been pro democracy protests in Hong Kong and other protests all over China.. So even if you people try any hard to hide the real facts, the pain is quite visible and the facts are coming out in open..

But as I said it's none of my problem so would not comment anything on that..

 

[Holmes]

We should never believe this drama, and should rather be focusing on how to tackle the dragon.
We have already seen what the dragon did, in the case of aski chin and AP.

 

[Yeti]

China has become one of the most hated countries around from Africa to Vietnam people see the true face of the dragon.

BBC News - China: Africa's plunderer or growth partner?

 

[Rusty]

China has become one of the most hated countries around from Africa to Vietnam people see the true face of the dragon.

BBC News - China: Africa's plunderer or growth partner?

seriously?
Your rebuttal to hard facts is "but people like me more then you"
What is this? Kindergarten?

Besides, didn't we prove in a thread a few months ago that People actually like China more then Indian?