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Indians crying for Muslims in a country over which they have no control but they elect a Hindu-nationalist for PM and they support 700k rapist army in Kashmir. It's very touching to see their concern. :cray:
Same thing can be said about u , despite being islamic country
 
Whats this got to do with ISIS or any ideology? I'm basically saying you cant force people to think some way.

People in the end decide for themselves what news is fake and what is true....or the grey in between.

There is not much hive mind you can impose on them....sorry if you think or feel otherwise. Yeah its a scary world where people can have free thoughts isn't it?

You cant force people to think some way? By your theory, any individual wants to think like a ISIS members or harbor he thoughts of mass murder, we shall let them roam the street and let them enjoy the freedom of human being? So by your theory, Indian prison has zero inmates of ideology prisoners who harbor such thoughts?

You are just selective over your argument. What is wrong with China fighting extremism? It the same thing as US jailed ISIS members, same thing as UK send ISIS suspect under monitoring and re educate to send them on the correct path. What makes suddenly China action different?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3719789/terror-uk-suspects-isis-monitored/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/center...-rehabilitate-young-isis-recruits-11559295002

How come they are everywhere this summer?
These slayer use typical tactics. Fake news that meant cause hatre and they will claim its freedom of media to do that.

Prevent extremism and spread of ISIS which every countries are doing and they will claim its impreach of individual human right and their thinking. I have seen enough such tricks used.
 
You cant force people to think some way? By your theory, any individual wants to think like a ISIS members or harbor he thoughts of mass murder, we shall let them roam the street and let them enjoy the freedom of human being? So by your theory, Indian prison has zero inmates of ideology prisoners who harbor such thoughts?

You are just selective over your argument. What is wrong with China fighting extremism? It the same thing as US jailed ISIS members, same thing as UK send ISIS suspect under monitoring and re educate to send them on the correct path. What makes suddenly China action different?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3719789/terror-uk-suspects-isis-monitored/


These slayer use typical tactics. Fake news that meant cause hatre and they will claim its freedom of media to do that.

Prevent extremism and spread of ISIS which every countries are doing and they will claim its impreach of individual human right and their thinking. I have seen enough such tricks used.

Its not a theory. You cannot force people to think some way. You can constrain their actions or take action yourself after they did something you feel warrants a response....and thus thats the whole basis for a society promoting order and good legal framework and philosophical debate to structure itself (around moral good).

That is very different to the fact you simply cannot force someone in an instant to think how you want them to. You don't own their mind, you don't control the electrons and synapses in it ok?

That's why I said people in the end decide for themselves if a news is fake or not.

You can do nothing to force them to think aye or nay. Got it?

This has nothing to do with the action side that you are meandering to now.
 
one to three million Uighurs are in concentration camps, Uighur's whole population is 10 million,
Wow almost 10% is in concentration camps...Btw everywhere I see it states chinese media stated Turkish president said this and that. Or Chinese president stated Turkish president said this and that....All third person quoting none quoting Turkish president himself?
 
Wow almost 10% is in concentration camps...Btw everywhere I see it states chinese media stated Turkish president said this and that. Or Chinese president stated Turkish president said this and that....All third person quoting none quoting Turkish president himself?
I advise moderator to stay out of discussion to prove your impartial. Your action just proves you are siding which camp which you can never command impartial when moderating

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Wow almost 10% is in concentration camps...Btw everywhere I see it states chinese media stated Turkish president said this and that. Or Chinese president stated Turkish president said this and that....All third person quoting none quoting Turkish president himself?
30% based on western media, you wouldn't see any Uighur healthy adults anywhere in Xinjiang streets.

I advise moderator to stay out of discussion to prove your impartial. Your action just proves you are siding which camp which you can never command impartial when moderating

@WebMaster @Slav Defence
He never is, why bother.
 
Turkist president visits China, and then suddenly the Xinjiang problem pop out every where.
The so called report consist mostly of interviews in Turkist soils, the scenes from Xinjiang it self is next to nothing.
Some roads, some self speak, a view in a school.
The biggest hit is the reporter argue with a man who no one knows if he is a secret service man or just a paid actor without face.
 
I urge mods to delete this thread.this is useless discussion and it will create more hate between Chinese and pakistani members.whatever Chinese are doing is their internal security matter and most articles are baseless allegations.
Hate doesn't come without reason...The mod team is tired of doing Chinese bidding of hiding the elephant.
If Chinese members are going to keep behaving as they are ...they alone are to be blamed for China losing friends in the future.

They can't argue they bash. Once that is done they request to shut down thread after threads...I am sorry this issue has been ignored for far too long...discuss it in a civil manner if you can't leave the thread....
 
Yeah like how you "explained" (or was it dictated?) to those Pakistani members before that Muslims shouldn't pray 5 times a day or grow beards or keep uighur traditional customs...its apparently bad for CPC national cohesion and conformity!

You try too hard pal. These children getting put into camps too, so they grow up forgetting their culture will only prove you lot lost the argument of so called "chinese diversity and tolerance".

I despise any system that seeks to brainwash and eradicate a whole culture.

Political suppression for national unity argument (i.e one party state)...fine.

Suppressing media/flow of information....for same argument....ok fine.

Security intervention for pressing cohesion of the national borders...ok fine.

These are not ideal....but I give the benefit of the doubt to each country (your country, your rules).

But systemic genocide of any kind (people lives, their innate culture) is where I draw the red line. Others can feel free to disagree with that position and state their case why.....but of course some rather use strawmen and whataboutism instead....or just ad-hominem. Nothing quite "wins" an argument for some of your CPC trolls like ad-hominem does. It is actually quite telling to rest of regular people that read this stuff.

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He was one that dragged in my country here in such predictable fashion (when the subject is Uighurs and China)....so its only fair he gets called out on that.
Geopolitics is a pragmatic thing, based upon a nation's interests.

I can say right now, if the despute between Indian and Pakistan didn't exist, along with if Pakistan was as rich as China, heck, forget China, if Pakistan was as rich as India, Pakistan and China would not be friendly.

Alas, geopolitics have thrust Pakistan and China together, and Pakistan must remain silent towards China's actions against the Uigher population.
 
Its not a theory. You cannot force people to think some way. You can constrain their actions or take action yourself after they did something you feel warrants a response....and thus thats the whole basis for a society promoting order and good legal framework and philosophical debate to structure itself (around moral good).

That is very different to the fact you simply cannot force someone in an instant to think how you want them to. You don't own their mind, you don't control the electrons and synapses in it ok?

That's why I said people in the end decide for themselves if a news is fake or not.

You can do nothing to force them to think aye or nay. Got it?

This has nothing to do with the action side that you are meandering to now.
You can say whatever you want. Until ISIS also has their right, if ISIS ideology cannot exist. Your talk about individual right and their freedom to think holds no ground.

No countries accept ISIS and their idea. Isnt that a control of so called freedom? And what makes China fight against extremism different? You are just selective to provoke China.
 
I advise moderator to stay out of discussion to prove your impartial. Your action just proves you are siding which camp which you can never command impartial when moderating

@WebMaster @Slav Defence
We are also members of the forum.
And if we are supposed to stay impartial then you are supposed to give us reason to do so. When you bash, we have to step in and call you a criminal...kapish?
 
You can say whatever you want. Until ISIS also has their right, if ISIS ideology cannot exist. Your talk about individual right and their freedom to think holds no ground.

No countries accept ISIS and their idea. Isnt that a control of so called freedom? And what makes China fight against extremism different? You are just selective to provoke China.
Normal people living their lives, and privately pray to their God doesn't make them ISIS, nor ISIS like.

ISIS calls for and acts upon the death of non-believers; most of the people whom China is going after, do not subscribe to violence or ISIS like behavior and beliefs.

I firmly believe that China is taking the wrong approach, and this is going to back fire. The more your pressure a community, the more resentful they'll become. I believe China is lighting a fire that it cannot extinguish.
 
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You cant force people to think some way? By your theory, any individual wants to think like a ISIS members or harbor he thoughts of mass murder, we shall let them roam the street and let them enjoy the freedom of human being? So by your theory, Indian prison has zero inmates of ideology prisoners who harbor such thoughts?

You are just selective over your argument. What is wrong with China fighting extremism? It the same thing as US jailed ISIS members, same thing as UK send ISIS suspect under monitoring and re educate to send them on the correct path. What makes suddenly China action different?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3719789/terror-uk-suspects-isis-monitored/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/center...-rehabilitate-young-isis-recruits-11559295002


These slayer use typical tactics. Fake news that meant cause hatre and they will claim its freedom of media to do that.

Prevent extremism and spread of ISIS which every countries are doing and they will claim its impreach of individual human right and their thinking. I have seen enough such tricks used.
They only want people to think this way:
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
30% based on western media, you wouldn't see any Uighur healthy adults anywhere in Xinjiang streets.


He never is, why bother.
Listen Chinese member if you can't discuss don't blame it on others. Your posts are on every thread denying the obvious.

Let me remind you:

Muslims pray 5x a day
Chinese concentration camp are govt property so no praying allowed.
Xinjiang Muslims are forced to live in these camps
When you are forced to be in an area where you can't pray 5x...that is oppression in every word


Now call that biased or whatever...when you can't call a spade a spade don't prevent other people from doing so.


As for China's sovereignty it isn't challenged by raising questions. It is however challenged when we see Chinese members incapable of discussing and abuse members or discuss members only...then we think maybe China really isn't what it claims...After all these members are supposed to be educated but despite that the attitude and language speaks the opposite!
 
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