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China expects Bangladesh will not join Quad

Pakistan obviously does, but I don't think BD does.

If India does decide to annex BD like you've said, this will be very late into the future, they simply cannot right now.

Plus Pakistan itself acts as a deterrent for BD. India cannot think of annexing BD with her main adversary sitting next door.
India will swallow down sri lankar and BD without China’s presence in the region, they will not give a glance to Pakistan when they do it. Barhatis greed for land is notoriously well known, they are rogue.

USA will tolerate India as long they perceive China as number one enemy.
 
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India will swallow down sri lankar and BD without China’s presence in the region, they will not give a glance to Pakistan when they do it. Barhatis greed for land is notoriously well known, they are rogue.

USA will tolerate India as long they perceive China as number one enemy.



India has no ability to "swallow" BD.

You forget that BD has a population of 165 million in a delta criss-crossed by rivers and lakes and India is a fragile multi-ethnic entity.

It needs hundreds of thousands of troops permanently stationed just to hold onto Kashmir and so imagine how many it will need to try to hold onto BD if it manages to take over the country.
 
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What pipe have you been smoking the quad is an alliance to cutting off China shipping sea lanes. This effectively acting against China. Bd is not major player like u.s China will not entertain this and will simply cut off bd, no investments to exports to West. Bd should just stay neutral for long as possible

What? Do try comprehending what I actually said...

Also china does not invest so we can export. There is no altruism at work. If they remain in china where salary is rising the industry will die and move somewhere else. They are simply moving the business to keep going. They come to BD because it is advantageous to do so not because they are doing us a favor.

Chinas investment in our infastructure keeps their people and company employed. Again no altruism simply good business.

BD is not reliant on china and this is the time to get maximum advantage out of all who wants to interact with us.

BD position needs to flexible and ambigious....neutrality may not be a feasible position much longer.
 
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What? Do try comprehending what I actually said...

Also china does not invest so we can export. There is no altruism at work. If they remain in china where salary is rising the industry will die and move somewhere else. They are simply moving the business to keep going. They come to BD because it is advantageous to do so not because they are doing us a favor.

Chinas investment in our infastructure keeps their people and company employed. Again no altruism simply good business.

BD is not reliant on china and this is the time to get maximum advantage out of all who wants to interact with us.

BD position needs to flexible and ambigious....neutrality may not be a feasible position much longer.



I think the poster means that over the long-term any thought of joining the QUAD is a non-starter for BD.

Does BD want to join an alliance with a country like India whose only claim to fame is they have masses of poor people in it?

BD could get sucked into a major war in Asia and then do you seriously think the USA would or could do much as both the Chinese and Pakistanis unleash hell on both BD and India?

India would be hard-pressed to defend itself, let alone provide any help to a weak BD that still has only 8 Mig-29s as the spear of its air-force.

Whatever happens, BD must stay neutral between the US and China and not join any military alliance.
 
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India will swallow down sri lankar and BD without China’s presence in the region, they will not give a glance to Pakistan when they do it. Barhatis greed for land is notoriously well known, they are rogue.

USA will tolerate India as long they perceive China as number one enemy.
India may not directly swallow/annex Bangladesh like they swallowed Sikkim and Hyderabad, because Bangladesh is full of hostile anti India population.

But there are other ways to swallow a country like breaking it into pieces.

India fund separatists of CHT to create their jhoomland.

Also India already culturally annexed Bangladesh. But a process has been started to undone it , as far I can understand.

But you don't get satisfactory answers from most PDF Bangladeshi, as they see the whole fact with pink glasses.

Many of their past assumption related to super powers are proven false now.

I believe more to come after Russia ukraine issue!
 
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BD is not reliant on china and this is the time to get maximum advantage out of all who wants to interact with us.
USA and west will not make cloths for themselves because of their high labour cost.

Benajir Ahmed and gong didn't realize the truth , that's why plotted a drama of buying 100000 piece pillow and bedsheet from Germany , later cancelled the drama!

May say that he wanted to test if Germany give him visa or not,after sanction.

So instead of trying to get benefits from garments selling,we should look other things.

Our major remittance comes from expats and they mostly live in middle east.

Nowadays China also needs manpower for various vocational jobs.

So only shortsighted people and relatives of garments business folks can't see beyond USA and west for economy.

Also the development done by BAL mostly from Chinese loans , mukti zuddher chetona didn't help in development works.
 
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For those who think that West can just stop buying garments from BD, it is not as simple as that.

Yes they can over some years start sourcing from alternative sources, but remember then it will reduce their bargaining power, drive up prices as a massive source of cheap labour is taken out of the supply chain.

BD can well stay neutral and stay on good terms both with the West and China. There is no need to entertain joining the QUAD which is an anti-Chinese alliance.
 
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For those who think that West can just stop buying garments from BD, it is not as simple as that.

Yes they can over some years start sourcing from alternative sources, but remember then it will reduce their bargaining power, drive up prices as a massive source of cheap labour is taken out of the supply chain.

BD can well stay neutral and stay on good terms both with the West and China. There is no need to entertain joining the QUAD which is an anti-Chinese alliance.
Exactly I'm saying so to @mb444 from antiquity. Later he left this matter unsolved! But that's alright.

However I also think we should stay neutral unless it's absolute necessity to join any side.

But I hope with new world order we can choose to remain neutral always.
 
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Exactly I'm saying so to @mb444 from antiquity. Later he left this matter unsolved! But that's alright.

However I also think we should stay neutral unless it's absolute necessity to join any side.

But I hope with new world order we can choose to remain neutral always.


I am not leaving it unresolved. BD obviously needs to stay neutral in terms of action. But that does not mean we do not engage.

Our position should be to engage agressively with both parties and other middle powers. This will prevent us ever explicitly positioning ourselves into a corner.

We need to talk to the quad and participate in maritime exercise. Buy the EFT etc.

At the same time we need to engage with china, pursue belt and road intiative, buy subs and J10 from them.

Simultaneously we need to facilatates economic interaction with japan and korea.

We need to enbrace turkey and buy SAMs and get into JV for ships and drones.

We need to engage GCC and ensure oil and gas keeps flowing and our ppl go there for work and explore if we can bring in investment.

We need to completely work with Russia and continue trading via currency swaps.

We needs to warmly align with EU and increase trade and defense link with france and italy and keep sending workers to relatively newer destination like spain, portugal, poland and romania.

Lastly we need to engage india, increase interconnectivity and trade.

BD does not need to play a zero sum game. We are a maritime trading nation. We need to focus aggresively in economic relationship with all party and pretend to be weak when it comes to defense as we build capacity.

In international scenario every action should be made on a point by point basis rather than following any particular party.

Bottom line we need to balance. Explicit neutrality can no longer suffice... we will give little to everyone based on BDs interest. As we can not satisfy everyone Simultaneously we may need to calibrate to ensure we do not create distance with anyone for any long period.

We need to balance all interest nimbly and pivot often.
 
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Pakistan obviously does, but I don't think BD does.

If India does decide to annex BD like you've said, this will be very late into the future, they simply cannot right now.

Plus Pakistan itself acts as a deterrent for BD. India cannot think of annexing BD with her main adversary sitting next door.
No one annexes anyone nowadays
It's covert regime change, or sometimes a short invasion like in Kuwait, Iraq to replace the government based on phony charges
Like neo Nazis, WMD etc etc
People thinking of long civil wars are living la la land

As first there won't even be a battle to take your sovereignity- likely raw will do a regime change from behind
Are your intelligence agencies powerful enough to handle that threat

And if all else fails - short campaign and regime is what they'd want

India will swallow down sri lankar and BD without China’s presence in the region, they will not give a glance to Pakistan when they do it. Barhatis greed for land is notoriously well known, they are rogue.

USA will tolerate India as long they perceive China as number one enemy.
It's about hostility, you can't afford to make another neighbor hostile when you already have a hostile neighbor on your borders
China isn't as powerful in SA to unilaterally force anything against a powerhouse like India in it's own sphere of influence
If Chinese really think that way than I am sorry, this is delusional
India is a very powerful country especially in south asia, you can't unilaterally "dictate" anything to it in this region, except for if you're a genuine superpower like US- and even that's a maybe
you need massive balls to stand up against it in this region where they are the dominant power
 
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Did you get your degree?
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Finals have been cancelled the university said they’ll do a state exam where they’ll give us a patient case and we gotta solve it, we graduate without the finals
 
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India will swallow down sri lankar and BD without China’s presence in the region, they will not give a glance to Pakistan when they do it. Barhatis greed for land is notoriously well known, they are rogue.

USA will tolerate India as long they perceive China as number one enemy.

USAs toleration for India will alienate 500 million people in South Asia. Probably will hasten Americas decline too. India is good for sucking out american resources and attention, without giving anything significant benefit back.

India is a very powerful country especially in south asia, you can't unilaterally "dictate" anything to it in this region, except for if you're a genuine superpower like US- and even that's a maybe
you need massive balls to stand up against it in this region where they are the dominant power

They are not as powerful as you think.
India only exists because the West and Soviet both has/had interest in keeping it somewhat stronger than its neighbors.

India is a easy country to split up in pieces, if the west wanted to. Let India face the fraction of pressure that muslims and China has faced and you will see it crumble.

India like Israel, albeit to a lesser degree, is a european/western colonial artefact.
 
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