China draws red line for USA in the South China Sea: ramming / open fire imminent

[bdslph]

We could have done that if our politicians genuinely cared about the situation of the country, sadly this is not the case as most PH politicians care more about their name, image and their piggy banks.

no i mean in military even
STOP so much with USA
now you guys backing USA to make patrol there like PH dont have anything
PH can do it alone

 

[yugocrosrb95]

Wrong, you got sick of Russian propaganda, so switched over to propaganda your mind is comfortable with , one that you have been force fed ever since you were young, ie American Propaganda

Aj Jazzera is American? lol

 

[BuddhaPalm]

China state-owned media declares second artillery will launch strikes on USN fleet in South China Sea!



美国军舰若闯南沙中国必反制 _手机环球网

美若在南海加注中国应动员二炮 应对危机升级

环球时报 2015-10-15

　　美国防长卡特星期二针对美军舰是否会进入中国在南海的“人造岛礁”12海里提问时表示，美国将在国际法允许的任何地区飞行、航行及活动，南中国海现在不是、将来也不会是例外。他进一步说，美国将自主选择这样做的时间和地点。

　　近来美国和西方媒体不断透风称美军舰将进入那些中国“人造岛礁”的12海里区域，以挑战中国的“建岛”行为和对南沙主权等权益的主张。美太平洋司令哈里斯上将曾表示，美军应该进入这些“人造岛礁”的12海里，并称相关方案已报总统和国防部审批。

　　美国做出准备升级在南海对华施压行动的姿态，中国面临如何回应美方施压的考验。

　　首先我们要厘清所谓“人造岛礁”的问题和美国施压的性质。那些岛礁并非真是人造的，它们原本就存在，中方只是通过陆域吹填，对它们实施了扩建。岛礁的领海领空以及扩建它们所带来的相关权益在国际法上相对模糊，针对这种模糊是否要发起冲突，这首先是大国之间的一种态度。

　　中国迄今没有就岛礁扩建后的领海领空问题专门进行申明，也无意扩大领海领空范围。美国一再说不承认那些岛礁的领海领空，并且威胁要去“闯”它们，这与中方的低调与克制不是一种对等的态度。美方这是在挑衅与胁迫，它要的根本不是南海航行自由，中国已多次表示不会妨碍这些自由，美方是要在南海给中国下马威，强调它在全球的霸权。

　　由此看来，中方决不能允许美方舰机在中国扩建后的岛礁周围和上空肆意妄为，挑战中国的底线。中国海空力量需要做好准备，视美军挑衅的情况予以反制。

　　如果美军只是偶尔出现，在扩建后的岛礁周围做做样子，我们需对其予以警告。如果美方公然反复进入12海里，飞临它们的上空，那么就需坚决予以回击。

　　中国应向南沙调集海上力量，准备在美舰肆意挑衅时与其周旋对峙。如果美军的挑衅是持续性行为，中国只能被迫将建成的岛礁迅速军事化，和前来护岛的军舰协同与美军对抗。一旦美军增加赌注的筹码，那么中国二炮的远程打击力量就应动员起来，应对南沙危机的全面升级。

　　美国自己也清楚，中国在南沙扩建岛礁这一行为不违反国际法，这是华盛顿无法阻止中国扩建岛礁的主因。美军无视中国扩建岛礁的合法性及其提供的国际公共服务功能，对中国采取激进的威胁行动，这是破底线的行为，也是对中国主权的突破，中国决不会无动于衷。

　　五角大楼一再挑衅中国，中方迄今是克制的。但当美军闯进中国核心利益区时，解放军一定会站出来。

　　如果美军一定要证明它在中国近海仍可任意保持自己军事优势的话，那么就让它来试一试好了。这样的尝试不仅将检验美海军在中国周边实施讹诈的硬件能力，还将进一步考验美国究竟有多大的决心和意志，准备为了可以在中国家门口指手画脚放任霸权而不惜任何代价。

　　中国显然不想与美对峙，但如果美国军舰成心对华寻衅滋事，那么中国无处可躲，只有直面。究竟是中国还是美国向南海调集力量的能力更强，为捍卫在南海利益使用力量的决心更大，让世界去看好了。

　　南海不是某些国家随便撒野的地方。南海的规则正在由中国与东南亚国家共同磋商、制定，轮不着美国的军舰前来“一言九鼎”。美国高估了它的那些军舰的威力。

 

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[opruh]

Aj Jazzera is American? lol

Duh, qatari government is a close ally of america, is the economic crisis in croatia already that bad that you can't think properly?

 

[yugocrosrb95]

Duh, qatari government is a close ally of america, is the economic crisis in croatia already that bad that you can't think properly?

Bad? No. Our GDP is growing consistently thus this year will be first year that in every quarter GDP grew.

I don't like Americans, well at least I like them a bit with Obama goverment and his moves that are socialist. I hope Bernie Sanders becomes the president thougth thats a slim chance, but if he was the president of USA then Europe would get even friendlies with USA and China would't be a bitch that loves then hates then loves USA, but just loves USA.

 

[BuddhaPalm]

China warns of ‘firm’ response if the US sends military mission into South China Sea

It's been two weeks and still no action from Mr. Asia Pivot. Come if you dare!

 

[BuddhaPalm]

Now it's officially declared by "China voice," directly from the highest levels of the CCP. China will respond to USA provocation with countermeasures including turning our South China Sea outposts into military bases!

China Voice: U.S. provocations threaten to militarize South China Sea - Xinhua | English.news.cn

BEIJING, Oct. 17 (Xinhua) -- The United States' provocative attempts to infringe on China's South China Sea sovereignty are sabotaging regional peace and stability and militarizing the waters.

The U.S. Navy is reportedly preparing to conduct "freedom of navigation" operations, sending warships within 12 nautical miles of Chinese islands in the South China Sea. The U.S. operations may take place within days, according to reports.

Last month, in his response to China's claim of sovereignty over the South China Sea, U.S. Secretary of Defense Ash Carter said the United States "will fly, sail and operate wherever the international law allows, as we do around the world."

White House Spokesman Josh Earnest said on Oct. 8 that U.S. warships patrolling close to artificial islands built by China in the South China Sea "should not provoke significant reaction from the Chinese."

Let us not forget that in October 1962, when the Soviet Union was building missile sites in Cuba -- not even on U.S. soil -- U.S. President Kennedy made it clear in a televised speech that the United States would not "tolerate the existence of the missile sites currently in place."

What on earth makes the United States think China should and will tolerate it when U.S. surface ships trespass on Chinese territory in the South China Sea?

China will never tolerate any military provocation or infringement on sovereignty from the United States or any other country, just as the United States refused to 53 years ago.

China's stand on the South China Sea disputes is firm and clear. China's sovereignty and claims of rights over Nansha Islands and their adjacent waters in the South China Sea have been formed over the long course of history and upheld by successive Chinese governments, and have adequate and solid historical and legal basis.

Just as Article 15 of the United Nations Convention of the Law of the Sea stipulates, delimiting the territorial seas of China and other countries in the South China Sea shall be in accordance with China's "historic title" to the region.

China has always been, in a constructive and effective manner, a firm upholder of the freedom of navigation as well as peace and stability in the South China Sea. And China has vowed to continue to do so in the future.

China's construction of civilian and public facilities on the Nansha Islands and reefs, which fall within the scope of China's sovereignty, serves not only China but also coastal nations in the South China Sea.

For instance, two lighthouses recently built on reefs in the region have helped guide passing vessels from around the world and significantly improved navigation safety.

Contrary to U.S. claims, it will be the United States, as an outsider, that further provokes tensions in the South China Sea by sending soldiers and warships to Chinese territory in the name of "freedom of navigation."

This is not the first move by the United States to undermine the regional peace and stability that China has worked so hard for.

Over the past several years, the United States has held frequent large-scale drills with its allies in the South China Sea, flexing their military muscles.

According to the website of the U.S. Department of Defense, the country has deployed thousands of civilian and military officials, as well as a huge number of weapons, to the Pacific region.

To destabilize the region and contain China, the United States has deliberately involved non-party nations, such as Japan, in the South China Sea issue and stirred disputes between China and other parties, including the Philippines.

By no means will China let the provocateurs make waves in waters that should be characterized by peace, friendship and cooperation.

Last year, the bilateral trade volume between China and members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) exceeded 480 billion U.S. dollars.

Concerned nations have no alternative but to jointly deal with disputes in the South China Sea that pose a threat to the development and prosperity of parties in the region.

On Sept. 18, in response to remarks made by the commander of U.S. forces in the Pacific on patrolling the South China Sea, a Chinese foreign ministry spokesman said China, like the United States, upholds freedom of navigation in the waters.

However, the spokesman stressed, China opposes any country's challenge, in the name of freedom of navigation, to China's sovereignty and security in the South China Sea.

During a visit to Europe in March 2014, Chinese president Xi Jinping stressed that his country will "never stir up any trouble, but will resolutely safeguard its legitimate rights" when it comes to sovereignty and territorial integrity.

Even though enhancing mutual trust and managing disputes through high-level visits and talks still remains the first option for China, the country will, without any doubt, adopt countermeasures against the United States if it doesn't stop military provocations that infringe upon China.

People with vision in Washington should and must see clearly China's determination in safeguarding national sovereignty and regional security.

 

[Zero_wing]

Now it's officially declared by "China voice," directly from the highest levels of the CCP. China will respond to USA provocation with countermeasures including turning our South China Sea outposts into military bases!

China Voice: U.S. provocations threaten to militarize South China Sea - Xinhua | English.news.cn

BEIJING, Oct. 17 (Xinhua) -- The United States' provocative attempts to infringe on China's South China Sea sovereignty are sabotaging regional peace and stability and militarizing the waters.

The U.S. Navy is reportedly preparing to conduct "freedom of navigation" operations, sending warships within 12 nautical miles of Chinese islands in the South China Sea. The U.S. operations may take place within days, according to reports.

Last month, in his response to China's claim of sovereignty over the South China Sea, U.S. Secretary of Defense Ash Carter said the United States "will fly, sail and operate wherever the international law allows, as we do around the world."

White House Spokesman Josh Earnest said on Oct. 8 that U.S. warships patrolling close to artificial islands built by China in the South China Sea "should not provoke significant reaction from the Chinese."

Let us not forget that in October 1962, when the Soviet Union was building missile sites in Cuba -- not even on U.S. soil -- U.S. President Kennedy made it clear in a televised speech that the United States would not "tolerate the existence of the missile sites currently in place."

What on earth makes the United States think China should and will tolerate it when U.S. surface ships trespass on Chinese territory in the South China Sea?

China will never tolerate any military provocation or infringement on sovereignty from the United States or any other country, just as the United States refused to 53 years ago.

China's stand on the South China Sea disputes is firm and clear. China's sovereignty and claims of rights over Nansha Islands and their adjacent waters in the South China Sea have been formed over the long course of history and upheld by successive Chinese governments, and have adequate and solid historical and legal basis.

Just as Article 15 of the United Nations Convention of the Law of the Sea stipulates, delimiting the territorial seas of China and other countries in the South China Sea shall be in accordance with China's "historic title" to the region.

China has always been, in a constructive and effective manner, a firm upholder of the freedom of navigation as well as peace and stability in the South China Sea. And China has vowed to continue to do so in the future.

China's construction of civilian and public facilities on the Nansha Islands and reefs, which fall within the scope of China's sovereignty, serves not only China but also coastal nations in the South China Sea.

For instance, two lighthouses recently built on reefs in the region have helped guide passing vessels from around the world and significantly improved navigation safety.

Contrary to U.S. claims, it will be the United States, as an outsider, that further provokes tensions in the South China Sea by sending soldiers and warships to Chinese territory in the name of "freedom of navigation."

This is not the first move by the United States to undermine the regional peace and stability that China has worked so hard for.

Over the past several years, the United States has held frequent large-scale drills with its allies in the South China Sea, flexing their military muscles.

According to the website of the U.S. Department of Defense, the country has deployed thousands of civilian and military officials, as well as a huge number of weapons, to the Pacific region.

To destabilize the region and contain China, the United States has deliberately involved non-party nations, such as Japan, in the South China Sea issue and stirred disputes between China and other parties, including the Philippines.

By no means will China let the provocateurs make waves in waters that should be characterized by peace, friendship and cooperation.

Last year, the bilateral trade volume between China and members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) exceeded 480 billion U.S. dollars.

Concerned nations have no alternative but to jointly deal with disputes in the South China Sea that pose a threat to the development and prosperity of parties in the region.

On Sept. 18, in response to remarks made by the commander of U.S. forces in the Pacific on patrolling the South China Sea, a Chinese foreign ministry spokesman said China, like the United States, upholds freedom of navigation in the waters.

However, the spokesman stressed, China opposes any country's challenge, in the name of freedom of navigation, to China's sovereignty and security in the South China Sea.

During a visit to Europe in March 2014, Chinese president Xi Jinping stressed that his country will "never stir up any trouble, but will resolutely safeguard its legitimate rights" when it comes to sovereignty and territorial integrity.

Even though enhancing mutual trust and managing disputes through high-level visits and talks still remains the first option for China, the country will, without any doubt, adopt countermeasures against the United States if it doesn't stop military provocations that infringe upon China.

People with vision in Washington should and must see clearly China's determination in safeguarding national sovereignty and regional security.

Again reality differs from all the unless words in your post.

 

[21stCentury]

I refuse to believe that China can make such an immature statement. Especially considering the level of economic dependency. Surely no Chinese thinks they can really take us on?

Take on the mighty U.S? Sure China did, in 1950..... Not just U.S but the also NATO. That was more than 50 years ago. Surely no white think they are seriously invincible? That notion has been destroyed many times over. Welcome to the 21st century.

 

[dichoi]

South China Sea could be 'deadliest conflict of our time': Malaysia defence chief
"Just because a region appears to be peaceful and prosperous doesn't mean the prospects of conflict do not arise," Malaysian Defence Minister Hishammuddin Hussein says.

• By Jack Board
• POSTED: 30 May 2015 13:46

SINGAPORE: Malaysia's Minister for Defence Hishammuddin Hussein on Saturday (May 30) warned that the South China Sea conflict could become one of the deadliest conflicts the world has ever known.

Mr Hishammuddin addressed defence delegates at the Shangri-La Dialogue, saying new global challenges are emerging from longstanding conflicts, and urging the rule of law be followed in the disputed territory.

"If we are not careful it would escalate into one of the deadliest conflict of our time, if not our history," he said. "Just because a region appears to be peaceful and prosperous doesn't mean the prospects of conflict do not arise."

The United States and China have openly voiced their opposing views on the sovereignty of the South China Sea, with the US describing China's increasing land reclamation, and the possible deployment of weaponry on artificial islands, as deeply concerning, unprecedented and destabilising.

Beijing argues it has acted with restraint and blames the United States for contributing to the rising divisions in the region.

Mr Hishammuddin said all parties must take responsibility to maintain peace and stability. "Inflamed rhetoric and mutual recrimination will do no country any good. It is perhaps too optimistic to believe that we can prevent conflict and its escalation all the time and every time."

He added that countries can act how they see fit in their sovereign areas but should be aware of the consequences of their decisions. "This world cannot afford another global conflict. This world cannot afford more uncertainty, instability, death and destruction."

Mr Hishammuddin also briefly addressed the ongoing Rohingya migrant crisis affecting the region, saying Malaysia is taking leadership on the matter. He said he believed countries would face this issue in the "ASEAN way" but suggested Myanmar had a more leading role to play.

"This issue can only be resolved by a just and comprehensive settlement at the source," he said.

- CNA/kk