China deletes data, destroys documents after leaks on Uighur camps

[Beast]

Very good point. @Petrichor, if you want to do something, please go to Gaza, go to Iraq, go to Syria. US and US allies are bombing them, and killing Muslim everyday. Don't be like a coward keyboard warrior, it's easy to say than done.

No, this coward will only pick on China. That is his agenda. Muslim dead or alive is never his concern by the order of his US/Jews master.

 

[IblinI]

Pakistan is not holding people in concentration camps, our forces are not raping woman in those camps and not feeding pork to the men. The women are not being forced to have sex with Han Chinese men without marriage and their children are not taken away from them.
If my country was doing this animal level shit to its citizens or any religious group, I will be the first one to stand against it and speak against it and you won't need to.
I follow a faith that demands morality from me and wants me to speak against a wrong and if I don't I am counted with the oppressor and an eternal punishment waits for me.

So coming back to you, your country is being an oppressor and your regime is being cruel and animalistic to these people with what the reports and leaked clips and images keep showing. And if you are trying to protect that then you are no different than an animal yourself. And if this is true as it looks like, then you Chinese are not progressive but animal level degenerates.
And you can't subject Muslims to that kind of an oppression and expect a smooth sailing with other Muslims. My country might be lead by hypocrties and shemales, and inhabited by many as well, including a shuge population of them on this very forum.
But when you are an oppressor then don't tell me to be silent, and feel better knowing posting here about this issue is all I can do for now and others like me who actually care.
And fear the day when you will have to pay back for everything your regime did and everything you choose to be silent about because it all comes back to us.

All your accusations and this "Communist regime shit", We definitely have nothing in common, bye.
We definitely achieved what we are now by these "African warlord style" if you believe so.

 

[War Thunder]

You really think that by fighting China right now, Uyghurs will earn anything else but extermination and destruction? It is national suicide and the worst time for such a movement.

If we want freedom for Uyghurs, then why go by the timing and dictates of US, Israelis, and Indians? Look what the West is doing in their propaganda against Hong Kong, a rightful part of China. Even Taiwan which is also Chinese territory.

This is not our battle, don't be a pawn in the game of the West. If we have problems with China, we talk to them directly as friends and allies without need to sully the atmosphere by mudslinging.

With the US and its slaves breathing down the necks of Turkey, Iran, and Pakistan, you really want us to commit political suicide by cutting our ties with China, especially over inflated and fabricated claims coming from CIA sources themselves?

Wake up and look around you. How did it work for Syria, Yemen, Libya, and Iraq?

So you want to lecture me on your inability to say something wrong as being wrong? Or how every one needs to act like a shemale and transgender to accomodate the Chinese and their cruelty just because its the need of the hour.
Feel free to take that avatar and feel better in your misery. I can't.

Your sisters are being mass raped in front of other inmates only to teach them a lesson. They are being forced to sleep with chinese men to deprive them of their modesty. The men are being force fed pork and alcohol.

And you want me to be shameless and honorless like you and be ok with it? What level of bullshit has taken over you people that you conjure up this level of bullshit to be fine with all of that without even fearing your Creator?
The fear of your earthly gods america and Israel? The condition of syria and else is only because they feared men over their Creator. You are already setting yourself to the same fate, and you want to tell me to feel fine while being miserably dysfunctional and shameless, and wait for the punsihment of Allah to reach my own home before I realize?


Imam Husain (a.s.) said,

“If you cannot offer your assistance to me you must go far away from this desert so that you may not be able to hear my plaintive cry for help. Because if anyone is to hear our cry for help and does not respond, it would be incumbent upon Allah to throw him in the fire (Hell).”3

Imam Ja’far as-Sadiq (a.s.) says:

“A Jewish scholar was punished with fire maces in his grave with such severity that the flames leapt out from inside. This was because he had prayed without Wuzu and once he was passing by an oppressed person who called for help but he did not respond.”4

The Holy Prophet (S) says:

“It is necessary to help a believer whether he is an oppressor or an oppressed one. If he is an oppressor he should be restrained from oppression and if he is oppressed he should be helped in obtaining his rights. He should not be deserted and left on his own.”5

Imam Ja’far as-Sadiq (a.s.) says:

“He is not a believer who inspite of being capable avoids helping his brother in need; Allah also leaves him on his own and does not help him in this world nor the Hereafter.”


If cozying up to China while knowing what bullshit its doing to Muslims is the need for the hour. Then both the Govt and everyone who agrees to this shit can go to hell. I'm not agreeing to this bullshit.

All your accusations and this "Communist regime shit", We definitely have nothing in common, bye.
We definitely achieved what we are now by these "African warlord style" if you believe so.

Is your regime doing anything wrong if it is actually raping women and forcing people in camps and brainwashing them?

Answer that simple question and we will both know what progress you have achieved as a people?

 

[IblinI]

Your sisters are being mass raped in front of other inmates only to teach them a lesson. They are being forced to sleep with chinese men to deprive them of their modesty. The men are being force fed pork and alcohol.

So you want to lecture me on your inability to say something wrong as being wrong? Or how every one needs to act like a shemale and transgender to accomodate the Chinese and their cruelty just because its the need of the hour.
Feel free to take that avatar and feel better in your misery. I can't.

Your sisters are being mass raped in front of other inmates only to teach them a lesson. They are being forced to sleep with chinese men to deprive them of their modesty. The men are being force fed pork and alcohol.

And you want me to be shameless and honorless like you and be ok with it? What level of bullshit has taken over you people that you conjure up this level of bullshit to be fine with all of that without even fearing your Creator?
The fear of your earthly gods america and Israel? The condition of syria and else is only because they feared men over their Creator. You are already setting yourself to the same fate, and you want to tell me to feel fine while being miserably dysfunctional and shameless, and wait for the punsihment of Allah to reach my own home before I realize?


Imam Husain (a.s.) said,

“If you cannot offer your assistance to me you must go far away from this desert so that you may not be able to hear my plaintive cry for help. Because if anyone is to hear our cry for help and does not respond, it would be incumbent upon Allah to throw him in the fire (Hell).”3

Imam Ja’far as-Sadiq (a.s.) says:

“A Jewish scholar was punished with fire maces in his grave with such severity that the flames leapt out from inside. This was because he had prayed without Wuzu and once he was passing by an oppressed person who called for help but he did not respond.”4

The Holy Prophet (S) says:

“It is necessary to help a believer whether he is an oppressor or an oppressed one. If he is an oppressor he should be restrained from oppression and if he is oppressed he should be helped in obtaining his rights. He should not be deserted and left on his own.”5

Imam Ja’far as-Sadiq (a.s.) says:

“He is not a believer who inspite of being capable avoids helping his brother in need; Allah also leaves him on his own and does not help him in this world nor the Hereafter.”


If cozying up to China while knowing what bullshit its doing to Muslims is the need for the hour. Then both the Govt and everyone who agrees to this shit can go to hell. I'm not agreeing to this bullshit.




Is your regime doing anything wrong if it is actually raping women and forcing people in camps and brainwashing them?

Answer that simple question and we will both know what progress you have achieved as a people?

Appereantly you believe those shit so much so we can not carry on a normal conversation, and according to most of the western medias, Pakistan is hell itself, should I believes every paragraph, every words of it.

 

[War Thunder]

Appereantly you believe those shit so much so we can not carry on a normal conversation, and according to most of the western medias, Pakistan is hell itself, should I believes every paragraph, every words of it.

I asked you a simple question.
Will it be wrong if that was true? Will you speak against your regime?

 

[IblinI]

I asked you a simple question.
Will it be wrong if that was true? Will you speak against your regime?

Please have a look at my first sentance of the previous post.

 

[Sehnsucht]

No, this coward will only pick on China. That is his agenda. Muslim dead or alive is never his concern by the order of his US/Jews master.

You & that viva_zhao idiot should work for those terrorist ISIS recruiters.
Unlike you,I have a brain that I use & sense of morality that I have as a Muslim.
When Allah Subhanahu Ta'ala grants me the chance InshaAllah I'll do my best for my oppressed brethren.Not as those US-sponsored terrorists, but as part of something greater.
Till then I'll pray for them & speak out for them any chance I get.
If that makes me a coward & US agent in your eyes, I'm afraid I simply couldn't care less.

 

[War Thunder]

Very good point. @Petrichor, if you want to do something, please go to Gaza, go to Iraq, go to Syria. US and US allies are bombing them, and killing Muslim everyday. Don't be like a coward keyboard warrior, it's easy to say than done.

If China is an oppressor. Which it pretty much is from all we have seen and observed and from the people from Turkey and Indonesia who visited it.
Then it's time will come too. And there will not be a corner where you can hide my Chinese friend.

I stand with morality and what is right, I don't care what my country and its inhabitants lick up to for their selfish cowardly needs.

 

[DavidsSling]

Bangladesh hasn't spoken out for the Uyghurs either on governmental level.But we don't go to other countries to kill Muslims either. Hence, grey.


You're falling for CCP propaganda too then.
In a country like China where the government constantly monitors it's citizens,let alone a heavily monitored place like Xinjiang, do you think thousands of Uyghurs can just go to be terrorists in faraway countries?
Not saying some of them didn't.Or that they didn't return with extreme ideologies in their heads.And China should rightfully execute those extremists.I wholeheartedly support that.

What my beef with China is that they're committing cultural genocide & atrocities to Uyghurs just because they're Muslims.And it's not just Uyghurs, Hui Muslims too are being targeted recently.

China has done the same thing with Tibet, I guess Pakistan is next on the list because the Pakistanis on this forum are happy being slaves to the Chinese, even when they are raping Pakistani women. No wonder the world is laughing at Muslims.

 

[beijingwalker]

You & that viva_zhao idiot should work for those terrorist ISIS recruiters.
Unlike you,I have a brain that I use & sense of morality that I have as a Muslim.
When Allah Subhanahu Ta'ala grants me the chance InshaAllah I'll do my best for my oppressed brethren.Not as those US-sponsored terrorists, but as part of something greater.
Till then I'll pray for them & speak out for them any chance I get.

You can speak, but I guess that's about it. China grows with western slandering and smearing, Tibet, Falungong, Xinjiang, China' s imminent economic crash...we are so used to their propaganda.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

The Xinjiang regional government in China's far west is deleting data, destroying documents, tightening controls on information and has held high-level meetings in response to leaks of classified papers on its mass detention camps for Uighurs and other predominantly Muslim minorities, according to four people in contact with government employees there.

Top officials deliberated how to respond to the leaks in meetings at the Chinese Communist Party's regional headquarters in Urumqi, Xinjiang's capital, some of the people said. They spoke on condition of anonymity because of fears of retribution against themselves, family members and the government workers.

A guard tower and barbed wire fences are seen around a facility in the Kunshan Industrial Park in Artux in western China's Xinjiang region. People in touch with state employees in China say the government in the far west region of Xinjiang is destroying documents and taking other steps to tighten control on information. Credit:AP

The meetings began days after The New York Times published last month a cache of internal speeches on Xinjiang by top leaders including Chinese President Xi Jinping. They continued after the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists worked with news organisations around the world including The Associated Press to publish secret guidelines for operating detention centres and instructions on how to use technology to target people.

The Chinese government has long struggled with its 11-million-strong Uighur population, an ethnic Turkic minority native to Xinjiang, and in recent years has detained 1 million or more Uighurs and other minorities in the camps.

Xinjiang officials and the Chinese foreign ministry have not directly denied the authenticity of the documents, though Urumqi Communist Party chief Xu Hairong called reports on the leaks "malicious smears and distortions".

The Xinjiang government did not respond to a fax for comment on the arrests, the tightened restrictions on information and other measures responding to the leaks. The Chinese Foreign Ministry did not have an immediate comment.

Xinjiang's government had already mandated stricter controls on information in October, before the news reports, according to three of the people, all Uighurs outside Xinjiang.

They include orders for community-level officials to burn paper forms containing sensitive personal details on residents in their area such as their detention status, and for various state offices to throw away computers, tighten management of classified information, and ensure all information related to the camps is now stored on databases disconnected from the internet in special, restricted-access rooms to bar hackers, the Uighurs said.

"They became much more serious about the transfer of information," one said.

Publication of the classified documents prompted the central government in Beijing to put more pressure on Xinjiang officials, several of the Uighurs said.

Restrictions on information appear to be tightening further. Some university teachers and district-level workers in Urumqi have been ordered to clean out sensitive data on their computers, phones and cloud storage, and to delete work-related social media groups, according to one Uighur with direct knowledge of the situation.

In other cases, the state appears to be confiscating evidence of detentions. Another Uighur who had been detained in Xinjiang years before said his ex-wife called him two weeks ago and begged him to send his release papers to her, saying eight officers had come to her home to search for the papers, then threatened she'd be jailed for life if she couldn't produce the papers.

"It's an old matter, and they've know I've been abroad for a long time," he said. "The fact that they suddenly want this now must mean the pressure on them is very high."

Some government workers have been rounded up as the state investigates the source of the leaks. In one case an entire family in civil service was arrested. Abduweli Ayup, a Uighur linguist in exile, said his wife's relatives in Xinjiang - including her parents, siblings, and in-laws - were detained shortly after the leaks were published, although Ayup said they had no relation to the leaks as far as he was aware. Some people in touch with relatives outside China were also investigated and seized, Ayup said.

It is unknown how many have been detained since the leaks.

Earlier this week, a Uighur woman in the Netherlands told a Dutch daily, de Volkskrant, that she was the source of the documents published by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists. The woman, Asiye Abdulaheb, said that after she posted one page on social media in June, Chinese state agents sent her death threats and tried to recruit her ex-husband to spy on her.

The leaked documents lay out the Chinese government's deliberate strategy to lock up ethnic minorities even before they commit a crime, and to rewire their thoughts and the language they speak. They reveal that facilities Beijing calls "vocational training schools" are forced ideological and behavioral re-education centres run in secret.

The papers also show how Beijing is pioneering a new form of social control using data and artificial intelligence. Drawing on data collected by mass surveillance technology, computers issued the names of tens of thousands of people for interrogation or detention in just one week.

The leaks come at a delicate time in relations between Washington and Beijing, amid ongoing negotiations to end a trade war and US concerns about the situation in Hong Kong, a semi-autonomous Chinese territory where police have clashed with pro-democracy protesters.

Last week, the US House of Representatives overwhelmingly approved the Uighur Human Rights Policy Act, aimed at pressuring China over the mass detentions in Xinjiang. Beijing swiftly denounced the bill as foreign meddling. State media reported that the Chinese government was considering retaliatory measures including visa bans on US officials.

https://www.theage.com.au/world/asi...er-leaks-on-uighur-camps-20191215-p53k3o.html

FAKE NEWS: The above article is based on a source from the New York times. The same New York times that claimed Iraq had WMD that could destroy Europe in 30 mins .

 

[Beast]

China has done the same thing with Tibet, I guess Pakistan is next on the list because the Pakistanis on this forum are happy being slaves the Chinese, even when they are raping Pakistani women. No wonder the world is laughing at Muslims.

The devil speaks... Yes, you mean you wipe out almost all Australian aborginal and make them minority. Same as the Jews who do with Palestine and pack them like animals inside limited space in gaza.

 

[War Thunder]

China has done the same thing with Tibet, I guess Pakistan is next on the list because the Pakistanis on this forum are happy being slaves the Chinese, even when they are raping Pakistani women. No wonder the world is laughing at Muslims.

They have little concern about that. Most of them don't shy away from eye raping every woman that passes in front of them even if fully covered from head to toe, what concern will they have from Chinese raping their fellow citizen or Muslims in China?
Everything in this land of hypocrisy and extreme ignorance is about selfish interests.
They will lick up to China, sell Taliban away fearing an american strike, sell Uighurs away fearing China, and then carry the audacity to say we are "Muslims", and we are trying to make a state like the first state of Islam.
And these little hypocrite and shameless keyboard warrior will go fight a "ghazwa-e-hind" and capture indian rulers.

FAKE NEWS: The above article is based on a source from the New York times. The same New York times that claimed Iraq had WMD that could destroy Europe in 30 mins .

Delegations from Turkey and Indonesia have already confirmed that China is doing wrong to Uighurs.
What delegation has been sent by "Islamic" republic of Pakistan?
What research have you done on your individual level to refute this article or even to decide whose side you want to stand on?

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

They have little concern about that. Most of them don't shy away from eye raping every woman that passes in front of them even if fully covered from head to toe, what concern will they have from Chinese raping their fellow citizen or Muslims in China?
Everything in this land of hypocrisy and extreme ignorance is about selfish interests.
They will lick up to China, sell Taliban away fearing an american strike, sell Uighurs away fearing China, and then carry the audacity to say we are "Muslims", and we are trying to make a state like the first state of Islam.
And these little hypocrite and shameless keyboard warrior will go fight a "ghazwa-e-hind" and capture indian rulers.




Delegations from Turkey and Indonesia have already confirmed that China is doing wrong to Uighurs.
What delegation has been sent by "Islamic" republic of Pakistan?
What research have you done on your individual level to refute this article or even to decide whose side you want to stand on?

Do you have ANY evidence for that? If so please post the links here.

 

[DavidsSling]

The devil speaks... Yes, you mean you wipe out almost all Australian aborginal and make them minority. Same as the Jews who do with Palestine and pack them like animals inside limited space in gaza.

Glad the 50 cent army keeps digging up the past, how about you talk about what your scum are doing to Africa, and your own people, organ harvesting humans but go ahead keep digging up the past all you want if it helps you and your Pakistani slaves divert attention.