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China ‘Decodes’ F-22, F-35 Puzzle; Flaunts ‘World’s First Anti-Stealth Radar’ That Can Detect Stealthiest Of Aircraft

lol why you thinks other non stealth fighter jets can go supersonic for longer than 10 min lol, its design to penetrates Russian/Chinese airspace lol

We give a shit about chinese or russian airspace. The Eurofighter can go supersonic for over an hour. We need an aircraft that can get to any point of our airspace as fast as possible.

Greece is not defended in russian or chinese airspace
 
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We give a shit about chinese or russian airspace. The Eurofighter can go supersonic for over an hour. We need an aircraft that can get to any point of our airspace as fast as possible.

Greece is not defended in russian or chinese airspace
LOL, Is your airSpace more secure than Chinese/Russian Airspace:crazy:, and you're not buying EF2000 But Rafale and EF2000 have supercruise capability at higher altitudes, where chance of detection is much higher than lower altitudes because higher and faster you goes you have higher Chances to being detected by RADARS and Electrooptical sensors like IR sensors lol
 
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LOL, Is your airSpace more secure than Chinese/Russian Airspace:crazy:, and you're not buying EF2000 But Rafale and EF2000 have supercruise capability at higher altitudes, where chance of detection is much higher than lower altitudes because higher and faster you goes you have higher Chances to being detected by RADARS and Electrooptical sensors like IR sensors lol


I think you dont get it. We dont want an offensive airforce but a defensive one.

Its plain and simple? Can F-35 stand in a normal hangar without air condition, uses minimal effort to stay flightworthy and flightready? No. Even the helmet needs an own engineer.
 
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I think you dont get it. We dont want an offensive airforce but a defensive one.

Its plain and simple? Can F-35 stand in a normal hangar without air condition, uses minimal effort to stay flightworthy and flightready? No. Even the helmet needs an own engineer.
That's your choice but don't called F35 a trash and F35 can be useful in both roles (offensive and defensive), its needs less maintain prone than F22
 
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F35 has only one engine, is slow and not very agile. The entire system is a joke. Evry helmet costs half a million euro and fits only one pilot. That system is ridicolous. Rafale and Eurofighter are superior in speed, agility and performance.

Greece needs an aircraft that ias agile, powerful and fast. The F35 meets none of those criteria.

Are these aircraft for performing air show stunts or for BVR combat? Do greek generals have the mindset of a 10 year old that more engines = better plane? By this logic the Su-25 and first generation Su-27 ought to be far superior to the F-35 since they have more engines and the flanker is the most agile and fast aircraft in the world.

An F-35 would blow a Rafale or Eurofighter out of the sky before it even has a chance to do its airshow manoeuvres.
 
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Are these aircraft for performing air show stunts or for BVR combat? Do greek generals have the mindset of a 10 year old that more engines = better plane? By this logic the Su-25 and first generation Su-27 ought to be far superior to the F-35 since they have more engines and the flanker is the most agile and fast aircraft in the world.

An F-35 would blow a Rafale or Eurofighter out of the sky before it even has a chance to do its airshow manoeuvres.

Doubtful, since in all nato dog fights eurofighter won. A single engine jet is automaticly destroyed when engine fails.

Add the fact that f 35 is plagued by so many failures, its not an operational aircraft.
You have No money to buy that's why you're saying that, most of the country dream about to have a F35 in their air forces


Wrong, our stupid government is at the moment preparing to purchase that garbage.
 
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Shhh.. no facts allowed here.
well speaking of facts, the radar to be jammed has to be well within the range of the aesa radar which the YLC-8E will not be, so...rip f35 and its radars. there's a reason why the u.s. hasn't brought it even remotely close to the the Chinese and taiwanese straits...
 
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Doubtful, since in all nato dog fights eurofighter won. A single engine jet is automaticly destroyed when engine fails.

Add the fact that f 35 is plagued by so many failures, its not an operational aircraft.



Wrong, our stupid government is at the moment preparing to purchase that garbage.
F-35 can easily destroy ef-2000 in BVR arena even ef-2000 will not know who destroy us,
, let's forget about dogfight

Ànd that garbage is Best of the best
Doubtful, since in all nato dog fights eurofighter won. A single engine jet is automaticly destroyed when engine fails.

Add the fact that f 35 is plagued by so many failures, its not an operational aircraft.



Wrong, our stupid government is at the moment preparing to purchase that garbage.
F-35 can easily destroy ef-2000 in BVR arena even ef-2000 will not know who destroy us,
, let's forget about dogfight

Ànd that garbage is Best of the best
 
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I think detecting stealth is only one part of the problem. Can it track it with enough fidelity to guide a missile to it? Can the onboard radar and sensor of the bvr missile capable enough to get a lock and track the stealth aircraft? These are the two main issues in countering stealth ac - how the missile is supposed to shoot it if it cannot get a lock or track it. And we haven’t even factored in tactics and EW from the stealth fighter along with other external supporting systems.
 
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F-35 can easily destroy ef-2000 in BVR arena even ef-2000 will not know who destroy us,
, let's forget about dogfight

Ànd that garbage is Best of the best

F-35 can easily destroy ef-2000 in BVR arena even ef-2000 will not know who destroy us,
, let's forget about dogfight

Ànd that garbage is Best of the best

How can f35 destroy something when it starts falling apart
 
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How can f35 destroy something when it starts falling apart
:lol: :lol: :enjoy: in air combat mode F35 have all its weapons in its internal bays to preserve Stealth, and EF2000 has a big RCS with weapon hangs in its external hard point, Now tell me who sees who first:azn:, you're in delusional my boy
 
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China ‘Decodes’ F-22, F-35 Puzzle; Flaunts ‘World’s First Anti-Stealth Radar’ That Can Detect Stealthiest Of Aircraft

ByAritra Banerjee
October 6, 2021
China has recently showcased what was touted to be a revolutionary radar at the Zhuhai airshow. The YLC-8E is a significant addition to the People’s Liberation Army’s anti-stealth capabilities, a development seen as a major challenge for the US’ highly advanced F-35 and F-22 fighter jets.


The EurAsian Times had previously reported that the China Electronics Technology Group Corporation (CETC) unveiled a prototype claiming that it could identify stealth aircraft in-flight.

Going by open-source intelligence, such a technology would likely work by generating an electromagnetic (EMW) storm which would serve to acquire the location of incoming stealth aircraft.

Researchers at China’s Tsinghua University had said they intend to develop a full-sized prototype. Chinese scientists explained that high-energy quantum particles would be able to acquire targets not typically visible to radars.

However, physicist Jeffrey Shapiro, a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) and a pioneer of the quantum radar idea, opined that the process is fraught with far too many technical issues for it to be of any use.

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An image was posted on social media of what was speculated to be China’s YLC-8E anti-stealth radar. (via Twitter)

Nevertheless, the Chinese research team has asserted in its paper that the EMW storm led to 95 percent stealth detection. Another interesting find was that the sensitivity of the radar did not suffer despite the increase in target distance.

The quality of stealth materials also did not seem to make a difference. It was further claimed that this detection would be possible from long-distance even in arduous climatic conditions.

This development gave a clear indication of China’s intent to circumvent American stealth technology.

How YLC-8E Was Developed
The YLC-8E is the brainchild of the Chinese state-owned CETC and has been touted to be the “flagship of Chinese stealth radar”.

The device has been described as the world’s first UFH band anti-stealth radar system and also the pioneer in special high-frequency radar technology and active phase-controlled array radar coupled with a novel anti-stealth sharp device.

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China’s YLC-8B anti-stealth radar.

China’s state-owned Global Times had earlier explained that the antenna of the YLC-8E is gigantic. With its high power and cutting-edge information process technology, it can detect even the most advanced stealth aircraft. It can also detect other types of targets at long range and high definition with its key parameters superior, making it superior to foreign competitors.

The YLC-8E has the basic features seen in any 4th-generation intelligence radar. It can be leveraged to provide critical combat command systems with actionable intelligence, integrate the intelligence collected, and even intercept aerial threats and hostile weapon systems. This stealth reportedly possesses independent guidance capabilities as well.

The YLC-8E is mandated with a myriad of crucial battlefield functions, including providing anti-aircraft alerts emanating from varying altitudes.

It is also responsible for aircraft guidance tasks and target search and acquisition. To surmise, the YLC-8E has been described as the “backbone of the radar network.”

Should US Be Worried?
The Chinese YLC-8E system has been marketed as a super radar capable of detecting American aircraft F-22 and F-35.

According to Song Zhongping, a Hong Kong-based military commentator and a former PLA instructor, Beijing is making technological strides in quantum-based radars and laser-based radar systems besides metric wave radars which collectively improve the military’s capabilities.

This is part of an ongoing effort to integrate the entire nation’s early warning network. China’s quest to have more advanced anti-stealth radars came as countries around the world are researching and buying stealth fighters or drones to boost their defenses. And China is attempting to ensure its airspace remains secure.

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Hu Mingchun one of the directors at the Research Institute at China Electronics Technology Group told theGlobal Times – The antenna of the YLC-8E is enormous. With its high power and state-of-art information process technology, the YLC-8E can discover even the stealthiest of aircraft. It can also detect other targets at long range and high definition making it much superior to other radars.

Earlier radars often had assigned purposes, but this highly versatile radar can not only detect stealth fighter jets and other aircraft but can also be employed for early warning and artillery reconnaissance. This means that this radar can single-handedly serve the purpose of multiple radars operating concurrently, Hu added.

Gripen C has had an ”anti-stealth” Radar for 3-4 years, and the Global Eye radar is also ”anti stealth...
 
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:lol: :lol: :enjoy: in air combat mode F35 have all its weapons in its internal bays to preserve Stealth, and EF2000 has a big RCS with weapon hangs in its external hard point, Now tell me who sees who first:azn:, you're in delusional my boy

Thats totally irrelevant when F35 cant leave its hangar because technical issues
 
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