China Decides On Double-Digit Hike For Military Spending In 2014, Its Highest In Three Years

[BATMAN]

Yes, but such a stance has many unwanted consequences:

1. It will disrupt the balance of power & security of this region.
2. It may kick start an arms race which may result into massive weaponization of the entire region.
3. It will raise doubts & suspicion on China's actual intent behind such massive increase of military capabilities.
4. It may result into many new defence alliances and will increase US presence in this region.

Look who is talking!

 

[Genesis]

Yes, but such a stance has many unwanted consequences:

1. It will disrupt the balance of power & security of this region.
2. It may kick start an arms race which may result into massive weaponization of the entire region.
3. It will raise doubts & suspicion on China's actual intent behind such massive increase of military capabilities.
4. It may result into many new defence alliances and will increase US presence in this region.

1) The balance of power doesn't include the second biggest economy, we are a non factor in our own yard. Didn't the US call for solving this by law? They got the stand your ground law and we are standing ground.

2) That's already happening, but not really, I don't see anything that wouldn't otherwise have happened. Maybe a few subs here a "warship" there, and a few dozen more F-35s by Japan. That's about it, everything else was pre-planned. But if people really want to start an arms race, well let's do it. We keep pumping out weapons that will match the US and in some cases exceed, the rest bar Japan is getting weapons we stop using in the 80s-90s, or brings a dagger to a tank fight.

3) I'm sure they know what it's about more or less, they don't know whether there will be a full on invasion, but changing of the status quo, this they know. But invasion is unlikely, as Americans proved, it's not a great idea, quick war, achieve victory, destroy their military to make them a non factor, pull out like the Gulf war.

4) No it won't Vietnam will try to court the US, but they won't ally, ASEAN minus Philippines and maybe Singapore, the rest is close to China and won't join anti China, Malaysia and Indo are way too far away and hates Australia and mistrust US about the same. There's tension in ASEAN, and anti China block won't form.

Shinzo Abe is helping to keep Koreans neutral. While America will do what it wants as always.

There's also challenge for the US, pulling out of Africa and middle east seems hard at this moment, Saudi, Iran, Syria, Africa, Eastern Europe all are capturing the attention of the US.


Lastly, due to our power, we will be hated anyways, it's not like the Americans were singing praises on us before, at least now we can defend ourselves.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Yes, but such a stance has many unwanted consequences:

1. It will disrupt the balance of power & security of this region.
2. It may kick start an arms race which may result into massive weaponization of the entire region.
3. It will raise doubts & suspicion on China's actual intent behind such massive increase of military capabilities.
4. It may result into many new defence alliances and will increase US presence in this region.

LOL, our defence spending as a percentage of GDP keeps FALLING every year.

If we really wanted to militarize, we would go for 10-20% of GDP for defence spending, like the war time economies of Europe did in WW2.

Instead, our defence spending as a percentage of GDP is going down every year. The only ones who should be alarmed are us.

 

[Hashshāshīn]

Should be at least 2.5%

 

[Beast]

There's a lot of problem with Chinese military for now.

The land army is way too big, but it needs to be due to our strategic airforce not coming online until about 2020, so we have to have troops stationed in various places, instead of ability to sent a division to anywhere in China in 4-5 hours or less.

Chinese weapons are not up to the expectation of the army, they are constantly improving testing to be the best before they are sure it will remain effective for 10-20 years.

With no wars, things like bullet proof vest and a few other things that have expiration date can't be mass produced or it will go bad, if there are not wars, unlike America, war in every neighbourhood.

I suspect a big lay off of troops and restructuring of the army in terms of marines and land forces.

there's also a lot of 2 year soldiers, not enough time to learn everything and be effective.

There's a lot of other things that needs to be addressed before we make a big push, also we are not that rich, we got a ton of programs. Only the Saudi oil kings can spend 9% on military and get away with it.

I don't think PLA army is too big. Trying to compare US army size versus US army is improper. US is basically a country surround by sea while China is a land masses country.

 

[Akasa]

There's a lot of problem with Chinese military for now.

The land army is way too big, but it needs to be due to our strategic airforce not coming online until about 2020, so we have to have troops stationed in various places, instead of ability to sent a division to anywhere in China in 4-5 hours or less.

Chinese weapons are not up to the expectation of the army, they are constantly improving testing to be the best before they are sure it will remain effective for 10-20 years.

With no wars, things like bullet proof vest and a few other things that have expiration date can't be mass produced or it will go bad, if there are not wars, unlike America, war in every neighbourhood.

I suspect a big lay off of troops and restructuring of the army in terms of marines and land forces.

there's also a lot of 2 year soldiers, not enough time to learn everything and be effective.

There's a lot of other things that needs to be addressed before we make a big push, also we are not that rich, we got a ton of programs. Only the Saudi oil kings can spend 9% on military and get away with it.

Unless the world's third largest aerial power and their massive fleet of 4 & 4.5 generation aircraft are nothing but wooden models, they are already and have been since its creation.

 

[Akasa]

where you get 132? It clearly says 147.

But yea, our single soldier combat capabilities suck. A lot of hate on Chinese forums now when comparing to Russians and NATO, lol. Future soldier now!!!!!

???

What PLA shows in photo in training are markedly different from what is seen in their combat uniform.

 

[jkroo]

There shed some light of the future soldier system of China. I bet you see the strategy gun in recent time. Looks awsome and maybe already equiped to army and that will cost more. Budget needed.

 

[Genesis]

Unless the world's third largest aerial power and their massive fleet of 4 & 4.5 generation aircraft are nothing but wooden models, they are already and have been since its creation.

well third, second compare to first is short. I'm thinking more in line of matching the US fighter for fighter.

 

[Akasa]

well third, second compare to first is short. I'm thinking more in line of matching the US fighter for fighter.

Unless the PLAAF is to go bankrupt, that is a very low possibility.

 

[Genesis]

Unless the PLAAF is to go bankrupt, that is a very low possibility.

Actually, we could, not over night, but once we have reliable engines, we can make as many as we want, it gets way cheaper as we make it.

PLAAF had some 4000 fighters come out of the cold war, if I remember correctly, we always had massive number of fighters. But these days due to our inability to produce engines and the best fighters, it's stalled some what.

But with the new variants of J-15, J-16, J-20, J-31, and J-10, we are almost there, as soon as the engine is ready, our economy more or less equals America's. 100-150 fighters per year in total is totally reachable, and looks like something we may consider.

 

[bolo]

I don't think PLA army is too big. Trying to compare US army size versus US army is improper. US is basically a country surround by sea while China is a land masses country.

In fact I don't think the Chinese military is big enough as a % of its population. China should have a 5m plus army of people.

 

[cirr]

China can easily afford annual increase in defence budget of 20% for the next 20 years。

But China is a peace-loving country，very unlike an expansionist country on the other side of the Pacific。

So our neighbours shouldn't worry。

But if you。。。

 

[dray]

China can easily afford annual increase in defence budget of 20% for the next 20 years。

But China is a peace-loving country，very unlike an expansionist country on the other side of the Pacific。

So our neighbours shouldn't worry。

But if you。。。

That's the problem here, China officially is saying that it is a peace loving country, but if one looks at the recent actions of China, it would seem that China is almost itching for a fight with its neighbours. Add to that the Chinese military build up, and a destabilized Asia seems imminent.

 

[xuxu1457]

China's defence cost and GDP: , blue devence cost and red GDP(unite:100million Yuan)

Defence cost/GDP % by year:

Countries' defence cost/GDP (%):

US, China,Japan, South Korea, India,Germany，Russia, Canada, Britain, France；