China Civil Aviation, AVIC (MA600) & COMAC (ARJ21/C919/C929)

Paul2 · Jan 8, 2019

Deino said:
Given the fact that XAC proved to be abke delivering ore than small numbers of the Y-20 and H-6 did you ever come to the idea that there are other reasons responibke for the low production rate?? Why not any of the other contractors, why in your opinion only XAC?

Because they are really the one and only company in China that can make fuses for large airplanes up to international standards... China has huge domestic industry for making thing like Y5, but they are all still "garage level" factories. You ask them "do you do ultrasonic inspection?," and they will ask you what ultrasonic inspection is...

Deino · Jan 8, 2019

Paul2 said:
Because they are really the one and only company in China that can make fuses for large airplanes up to international standards... China has huge domestic industry for making thing like Y5, but they are all still "garage level" factories. You ask them "do you do ultrasonic inspection?," and they will ask you what ultrasonic inspection is...

But to admit I don't get your point: XAC has proven that it can build H-6Ks and Y-20As in larger numbers per year - and I don't think their standard will be sub-quality - so that being sure that ONLY XAC is responsible for this production rate is not understandable. IMO it is more likely another supplier, maybe the wings, maybe something very much different ... but blaming XAC alone without any hard reason is IMO biased and not justified esp since XAC has proven otherwise.

Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA · Jan 9, 2019

Since becoming the first user of the ARJ21 aircraft, Chengdu Airlines has always regarded flight safety as the lifeline of domestic commercial aircraft operations, adhered to “zero tolerance for safety hazards”, strengthened the effectiveness of safety management systems, improved the safety performance management system, and ensured the safe and stable operation of the ARJ21 aircraft. .

In recent years, Chengdu Airlines has continuously strengthened the construction of the special team of ARJ21 aircraft. It has trained 52 pilots, 54 flight crews, 119 maintenance personnel and 76 flight attendants. It has opened Chengdu to Changsha, Hefei, Shangrao, Shanghai and Wenzhou. The routes of 20 cities including Zhoushan, Jinan and Harbin have accumulated nearly 8,000 hours of safe operation and nearly 230,000 passengers.

http://www.comac.cc/xwzx/gsxw/201812/29/t20181229_6669378.shtml

aziqbal · Jan 10, 2019

safety first

everything else is second, one incident is too many

in this business it can kill the entire airline

LKJ86 · Jan 12, 2019

January 3, 2019

GumNaam · Jan 12, 2019

recovery, safety and reliability are the corner stones of boeing and airbus. Comac must meet or break the standards set by boeing and airbus to take chunks out of their market. tupelov could not meet those standards and thus, could not grap its nitch in the market.

Nilgiri · Jan 13, 2019

LKJ86 said:
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What is the flag in the 3rd picture? The communist party flag?

Rafi · Jan 13, 2019

GumNaam said:
recovery, safety and reliability are the corner stones of boeing and airbus. Comac must meet or break the standards set by boeing and airbus to take chunks out of their market. tupelov could not meet those standards and thus, could not grap its nitch in the market.

I believe it will, also don't forget that China has a massive domestic market for aircraft that will guarantee that this aircraft will do well, when it is ready.