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Not all B-001x registrations numbers are given to C-919. One of the latest ARJ-21 has been given the number B-001R. Thus B-001B number could be registration No. of any commercial aircraft other than C-919.

Or on the other hand, it is possible that CAAC is just not follwing the alphabet sequence when allocating the registration number, though this is a less likely case.

And a good news for COMAC, CAAC and FAA have signed an agreement to mutually recognised each others certifacte of air worthiness, which means C-919's entry into international market is possible with just CAAC certificate of air worthiness alone.
 
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Not all B-001x registrations numbers are given to C-919. One of the latest ARJ-21 has been given the number B-001R. Thus B-001B number could be registration No. of any commercial aircraft other than C-919.

Or on the other hand, it is possible that CAAC is just not follwing the alphabet sequence when allocating the registration number, though this is a less likely case.

And a good news for COMAC, CAAC and FAA have signed an agreement to mutually recognised each others certifacte of air worthiness, which means C-919's entry into international market is possible with just CAAC certificate of air worthiness alone.
After 10 years of buttering our asses for them, we are now finally recognized by FAA. It means we can export our planes now. The hard work done during the ARJ-21 saga was worth it.
 
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And a good news for COMAC, CAAC and FAA have signed an agreement to mutually recognised each others certifacte of air worthiness, which means C-919's entry into international market is possible with just CAAC certificate of air worthiness alone.


Indeed a more than important step, ... and so hopefully the European agencies will follow soon.

http://www.caac.gov.cn/XWZX/MHYW/201710/t20171023_47258.html
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http://www.caac.gov.cn/XXGK/XXGK/SBGX/BMDYZDQ/MG/SHXD/201710/P020171023581677904467.pdf
 
Actually I foresee the FAA as the way more difficult party to deal with than its European counterpart :D:P

Now the FAA already signed the recognition, just don't see how the EASA would like to stand as the stumbling block with all its reverberations... at most a lively horse trading :D

Not all B-001x registrations numbers are given to C-919. One of the latest ARJ-21 has been given the number B-001R. Thus B-001B number could be registration No. of any commercial aircraft other than C-919.

Or on the other hand, it is possible that CAAC is just not follwing the alphabet sequence when allocating the registration number, though this is a less likely case.

And a good news for COMAC, CAAC and FAA have signed an agreement to mutually recognised each other's certificate of air worthiness, which means C-919's entry into international market is possible with just CAAC certificate of air worthiness alone.
That's a great news!! :enjoy:

And here's the news, just baked today :yahoo:

Deal will boost exports of domestic planes: experts

(Global Times) 09:56, October 25, 2017

China and the U.S. have signed a bilateral airworthiness agreement after years of negotiations, with the deal taking effect on October 17, according to the Civil Aviation Administration of China (CAAC).

The agreement points to China's advances in the civil aviation industry and improvements in industry standards and could pave the way for domestic commercial aircraft to enter mainstream global markets, Chinese experts noted on Tuesday.

The CAAC said in a statement on Monday that the airworthiness agreement between the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and the CAAC was reached in late September.

Under the agreement, Chinese and U.S. regulators achieved "full, reciprocal recognition" of each other's civil aviation products, including airworthiness certification, according to the statement by CAAC.

Specifically, the agreement covers the airworthiness examination and approval of design standards, production oversight, export airworthiness, technical support and other areas of cooperation, the statement said.

Airworthiness is the measure of an aircraft's suitability for safe flight and the basic requirement for any aircraft to be allowed for flight. China and the U.S. signed an airworthiness agreement in 1991, but terms under that agreement were not fully reciprocal because the U.S. did not fully recognize Chinese authorities' airworthiness measures, the People's Daily reported on April 28.

But the new agreement, coming after three years of negotiations between the CAAC and the FAA, changed that.

"The signing of the [new] agreement laid the foundation for deeper and broader cooperation between the two countries' civil aviation authorities and created a positive bilateral environment for the exchange of the two countries' civil aviation products and the cooperation of the countries' industrial sectors," the CAAC statement read.

The new agreement could pave the way for the rise of China's civil aviation industry in the global market, which has been dominated by U.S. and European companies, Chinese experts said on Tuesday.

The agreement could help the export of China's domestically developed planes such as the C919 and the ARJ-21, both produced by the Commercial Aircraft Corp of China, according to the experts.

"All new aircraft have to obtain airworthiness certificates before entering the market, and currently there are two widely recognized certificates: one from the FAA and the other from the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA)," Lin Zhijie, an independent market watcher, told the Global Times on Tuesday.

Lin added that although the CAAC has been issuing airworthiness certificates, the procedure was not fully established or widely recognized. Signing of the agreement with the FAA means a big step that could hopefully speed up the export of the large passenger jet C919 to mainstream markets abroad.

According to Lin, the ARJ-21 regional jet, which was delivered to domestic airlines in 2015, has not been able to be exported to major markets because it did not receive airworthiness certificates from either the FAA or the EASA.

China is also in talks with the EASA on a bilateral airworthiness agreement, which could be signed by the end of this year, Wang Jingling, deputy director general of airworthiness plans at the CAAC, said in April, according to the People's Daily report.

The signing of the China-U.S. agreement also highlighted the fast development in China's civil aviation industry and technological advances in aircraft manufacturing, according to Li Yimin, a long-time industry insider.

"I think this is a very significant move for China's civil aviation industry, because it reflects the fast rise of our industry in the global market, not only in market size but also technological capability," Li told the Global Times on Tuesday.

China is the world's second-largest civil aviation market and one of the fastest-growing markets in the world, the U.S. inter-agency trade information website export.gov said in a post on its website, pointing to China's aviation imports, expanding network of civilian airports and air fleet.

The U.S. aviation sector exported $13.2 billion worth of goods to China in 2016, accounting for 58 percent of China's total imports in the sector, according to the post on export.gov in July.

http://en.people.cn/n3/2017/1025/c90000-9284619.html

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The over $13 billion did the positive negotiation... :D :P

Reminds me of this nice phrase favoured by one of our Mods here: Money talks, BS walks
 
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COMAC delivered the 3rd ARJ21-700 to Chengdu Airlines on 20 Oct.
The order book amounts to 433 aircraft, and aircraft 109 to 114 are at the FAL (Final Assembly Line).


#COMAC delivered the 3rd #ARJ21 to Chengdu Airlines today,
the first delivery since the type was awarded its production certificate!


The #ARJ21 demonstrated its ability to serve China's rural western regions
after successfully completing high altitude tests in Qinghai.


China-made jetliner performs well in high-plateau test flight
Xinhua | Updated: 2017-10-19 14:59

XINING - China's homegrown regional jetliner, the ARJ21-700, has successfully completed its trial flight on the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau, demonstrating its ability to fly safely at high elevations.

The regional jetliner travelled along several air routes in Qinghai province over the course of five days last week, according to Qinghai Airport Co Ltd.

The test included an engine-start ground test at the high altitude airport, flight performance verification testing and take-off and landing tests.

"The successful trial flight shows that the ARJ21-700 is able to fly along air routes in the region at around 3,000 meters above sea level," said Wu Zhaowei from the test verification division of the ARJ21 program department of the Commercial Aircraft Corp of China (COMAC).

ARJ21-700, produced by COMAC, is a jet with 78 to 90 seats and a flight range of 2,225 to 3,700 km. It mainly serves China's central and western cities.

The number of passenger planes that can be used in Qinghai-Tibet Plateau is limited due to thin air and complicated terrain and climate.

"If the ARJ21-700 enters the market, rural residents there will be able to travel more quickly at a cheaper price," said Meng Jun, a staff member with the Qinghai Airport Co.

In July this year, COMAC obtained a production license from the General Administration of Civil Aviation, which means it can mass produce the ARJ21-700.


http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2017-10/19/content_33449941.htm


Note: the seemingly similar story earlier in March had the flight test done at the lower altitude:
"... The aircraft completed the test near Xining Airport, which is 2,184 meters above sea level..."

China's ARJ21 passes flight test over Qinghai-Tibet Plateau (2017-03-06)
http://en.people.cn/n3/2017/0306/c90000-9186382.html

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This is the specific design requirement for ARJ21 requested by the domestic customers in China. The drawback is the aircraft needs more powerful engine resulting in lower fuel efficiency. And some sceptical commentators on Chinese aviation technology mistaken this capability as the poor engineering because it cannot compete in term of fuel efficiency as good as the Western or Japanese-made aircraft.

 
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Domestically-produced jetliner with BeiDou navigation system completes test flight
Source: Xinhua| 2017-10-14 17:13:41|Editor: ZD

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An ARJ21-700 plane lands after a test flight at an airport in Dongying, east China's Shandong Province, Oct. 14, 2017. The Chinese-developed regional jetliner, which has the BeiDou navigation system installed, has successfully completed a test flight, the Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China (COMAC) said Saturday. (Xinhua/Ding Ting)

SHANGHAI, Oct. 14 (Xinhua) -- A Chinese-developed regional jetliner, which has the BeiDou navigation system installed, has successfully completed a test flight, the Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China (COMAC) said Saturday. The test flight was carried out from an airport in east China's Shandong Province on Saturday morning.

It was the first time a domestically-produced regional jet has been equipped with the BeiDou navigation system. The flight tested the performance of the onboard navigation information receiver, the ground-based signal enhancement system, and the short-message function of the BeiDou system.

The results showed the performance of the navigation systems developed by China is on par with similar systems produced abroad, and even reaches internationally advanced level in transient and quick positioning index, COMAC sources said.

The BeiDou navigation system has seen increasing numbers of applications linked to everyday life, from shared bicycles to bank cards and unmanned patrol vehicles.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2017-10/14/c_136679486_8.htm

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A staff member shows the flight path drew by the BeiDou navigation system on an ARJ21-700 plane during a test flight in Dongying, east China's Shandong Province, Oct. 14, 2017. The Chinese-developed regional jetliner, which has the BeiDou navigation system installed, has successfully completed a test flight, the Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China (COMAC) said Saturday. (Xinhua/Ding Ting)

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5th Test ...

The first prototype is now ready for long range testing (via SDF) The first prototype of C919 made its 5th and final test flight in Shanghai this morning, before leaving for Xi'an Yanliang for the rest of its qualifying program. This flight lasted more than 3 hours and reached 964 km / h and 7 900m altitude (Via Flight Radar 24).

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5th Test ...

The first prototype is now ready for long range testing (via SDF) The first prototype of C919 made its 5th and final test flight in Shanghai this morning, before leaving for Xi'an Yanliang for the rest of its qualifying program. This flight lasted more than 3 hours and reached 964 km / h and 7 900m altitude (Via Flight Radar 24).

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Already 5th test completed? and would be 6th test flight when Comac C919 Fly to Xian from Shanghai.They really work fast recently.
I thought only 3rd test flight already completed, not know 5th test flight is Completed today, and become 6th when it fly to Xian.
 
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