China, Bhutan ready to forge formal diplomatic ties

[Neuro]

My thought is Indian are closer to African.

of course ,we are close to them. Do you have any problem?

 

[ahfatzia]

Beyond tourism how far can Bhutan go, being a landlocked nation

Both India and China have big markets and combined they are the biggest market in the world. Both countries can help them build their manufacturing and agrarian infrastructures and they have it made. They don't have to force smiling faces to the white hippies from the west.

 

[Fanling Monk]

..and what about the border demarcation? are u going to give them the lands they claim? or are u going to kill bhutanese like u kill Tibetans?? u know they dont like Chinese for killing Tibetans...rt?

And btw u guys also thought Myanmar is going to be ur poodle? but they seem to have kick u guys out of Myanmar and are happily coming to India's side? so much for ur diplomacy? FAILED!!

There is nothing diplomacy in good faith can not be solved. Stick to the topic and stop trolling, would you.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Good, we do need to increase our ties with every South Asian nation.

 

[kalu_miah]

we must use our intelligence agencies to support separatist groups in india that seeks independence like sikhs and tamils and others. our primary goal for india must be to break up that indian union up. that way we can significantly weaken india to the core.
i believe our leaders need to take a leaf out of the american playboook and use the divide and conquer strategy on india.

remember the british colonised many little kingdoms and glued them together and called them india. there is no such thing as indian in this world just like there is no such thing as a soviet now. india is a very fragile union, you go 50km in any direction and you will see a completely different culture, language, etc.
remember at one time the british put bangladesh and pakistan into that 'indian subcontinent', andboth got independence. i think there could be further break up of this current indian union into more independent countries.

our main way to deal with the indian threat is to break them up. we need to fund and arm separatist groups that seeks independence. we need to take an active role in breaking up india into pieces and not be passive like we are now.

Well said. The first low hanging fruit is independence of North East Indian states:

Insurgency in Northeast India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

MAR | Data | Assessment for Tripuras in India

MAR | Data | Assessment for Nagas in India

MAR | Data | Assessment for Mizos in India

MAR | Data | Assessment for Bodos in India

MAR | Data | Assessment for Assamese in India

 

[Supply&Demand]

There is nothing diplomacy in good faith can not be solved. Stick to the topic and stop trolling, would you.

just like u solved ur problems by diplomacy with India....

or Japan....

or Vietnam...

or Phillipines...

or South Korea...

btw about trolling...May be u should follow ur own suggestion..mega troll !!

 

[Bond]

it is high time some bangladeshis need to come out of closet and understand their value in the world...

Well said. The first low hanging fruit is independence of North East Indian states:

Insurgency in Northeast India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

MAR | Data | Assessment for Tripuras in India

MAR | Data | Assessment for Nagas in India

MAR | Data | Assessment for Mizos in India

MAR | Data | Assessment for Bodos in India

MAR | Data | Assessment for Assamese in India

 

[gpit]

Still whining about Sikkim



Zaid hamid seems popular on the Eastern side of our border too





Sweet bed times stories,

back your crap with proper sources.

It is Indian crap that ruined Sino-Bhutan deal.

I couldn't find the source from China, as that was in Chinese and it has been for many years. But this Franch article provides the hint:

BHUTAN-CHINA RELATIONS: TOWARDS A NEW STEP IN HIMALAYAN POLITICS

...

In July 2002 however, the Bhutanese Foreign Minister Lyonpo Jigmi Y. Thinley told the National Assembly that the Chinese had “claimed to have documentary evidence on the ownership of the disputed tracts of land. When Bhutan asked them to be generous with a small neighbour like Bhutan they said that, as a nation which shared its border with 25 other countries they could not afford to be generous with one particular neighbour. The Chinese government, including the Prime Minister, were unhappy and questioned why Bhutan was raising new issues after many years of talks”32. Although no details have been released regarding these “new issues”, it is clear from debates in the National Assembly, that Bhutan still has serious concern regarding some aspects of the border issue. The western sector has been the most debated. It is not only a question of technical delimitation but also a security issue. The vicinity of the China-India border has to be taken in account.

www.bhutanstudies.org.bt/pubFiles/19-Spdr&Pglt.pdf

When China Bhutan were about to sign deal, India whined like crazy: No it's too close to my border... WTF India had to meddle when China and Bhutan were talking their border issues.

It is not until February 8, 2007 that brave Bhutanese ditched Indian "friendship" clause (that Bhutan had to seek Indian advice in its foreigh affairs), then could Bhutan proceed with its own independent foreign policy. Sino-Bhutan border problem can then finally be resolved, peacefully and happily

India is a big trouble maker in SA, in terms of border issue. Without India, SA could be a very peaceful region...

 

[Springfield]

It is Indian crap that ruined Sino-Bhutan deal.

I couldn't find the source from China, as that was in Chinese and it has been for many years. But this Franch article provides the hint:



When China Bhutan were about to sign deal, India whined like crazy: No it's too close to my border... WTF India had to meddle when China and Bhutan were talking their border issues.

It is not until February 8, 2007 that brave Bhutanese ditched Indian "friendship" clause (that Bhutan had to seek Indian advice in its foreigh affairs), then could Bhutan proceed with its own independent foreign policy. Sino-Bhutan border problem can then finally be resolved, peacefully and happily

India is a big trouble maker in SA, in terms of border issue. Without India, SA could be a very peaceful region...

Is Bhutan an independent nation? Why is there a need to seek Indian advice in its foreign affairs. If this is true, then India is acting just like a colonial master. Not good at all.

 

[gpit]

China, Bhutan ready to forge formal diplomatic ties

Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao (R) meets with Bhutan's Prime Minster Jigmi Y. Thinley in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, June 21, 2012. (Xinhua/Li Xueren)

RIO DE JANEIRO, June 21 (Xinhua) -- Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao and his Bhutanese counterpart, Jigmi Y. Thinley, on Thursday expressed willingness to establish formal diplomatic ties between their countries.

The two leaders met here on the sidelines of the UN Conference on Sustainable Development, known as the Rio+20 summit, which started Wednesday afternoon.

Wen said China highly appreciates Bhutan's staunch support of China's position on issues concerning Taiwan and Tibet.

China, Wen said, also values the traditional friendship between the two nations and respects Bhutan's choice for its development path according to its own national conditions.

Noting that China pursues a foreign policy of good-neighborliness, Wen said China is ready to forge formal diplomatic relations with Bhutan on the basis of the Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence.

Meanwhile, Wen said, China is willing to complete border demarcation with Bhutan at an early date and strengthen exchanges in various fields so as to push bilateral ties to a higher level.

For his part, Thinley said his talks with Wen carry great historic significance as it marks the first meeting between the heads of the two governments.

The Bhutanese, he said, highly appreciate China's endeavor to safeguard the common interests of developing countries in international and regional affairs.

Bhutan firmly sticks to a one-China policy and has strong desire to strengthen understanding of and friendship with China, Thinley said.

He confirmed that Bhutan wishes to forge formal diplomatic ties with China as soon as possible.

Bhutan is willing to settle border issues with China in an cooperative manner, enhance bilateral economic and trade cooperation and people-to-people and cultural exchanges, and carry out close communication and coordination in international and regional affairs, said Thinley.

China, Bhutan ready to forge formal diplomatic ties - Xinhua | English.news.cn

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Hopefully India won't be able to make trouble this time again.

 

[kalu_miah]

it is high time some bangladeshis need to come out of closet and understand their value in the world...

There are about 6 million Kashmiri Muslims and to pacify the insurgency there, India had to put 700,000 security force/troops. Imagine how many million personnel you are gonna need in North East states, which has a total population of 38 million.

But please go ahead and hurry up with your 4 lane free way and high speed railway through Siliguri corridor to Hanoi, as it will help the North East states population to economically and culturally integrate with their ethnic kin in Mekong Delta sub-region. That is India's official govt. look east policy after all, after 6 decades of failed effort to integrate North East states with "mainland" India:
Look East policy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Self determination for North East states will mean reduced interference and meddling of Delhi in Bhutan, Bangladesh as well as Burma.

 

[ahfatzia]

Bhutan has imposed a ban on import of a number of items, including agricultural products, from Bangladesh and some other countries except India, official sources said.
"If we cannot export agricultural products like juice and energy drinks to Bhutan, neighbouring India will be able to increase its export volume of similar products to Bhutan," a trade official in the MoC told the FE Saturday.

Bhutan imposes ban on import of certain Bangladesh items

http://www.defence.pk/forums/strate...s/55953-india-bhutan-tense-relations.html#top

Not only Bhutan foreign policy is influence by her big neighbor so do her economical policy. With China's help, perhaps, she can gain de facto independent. That's why this new diplomatic alliance is very crucial for her.

 

[INDIC]

There are about 6 million Kashmiri Muslims and to pacify the insurgency there, India had to put 700,000 security force/troops. Imagine how many million personnel you are gonna need in North East states, which has a total population of 38 million.

But please go ahead and hurry up with your 4 line free way and high speed railway to Hanoi, as it will help the North East states population to economically and culturally integrate with their ethnic kin in Mekong Delta sub-region. That is India's official govt. look east policy after all, after 6 decades of failed effort to integrate North East states with "mainland" India:
Look East policy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Self determination for North East states will mean reduced interference and meddling of Delhi in Bhutan, Bangladesh as well as Burma.

Now I know what is the meaning of "grapes are sour."

 

[Bond]

Kashmir insurgency has died totally.. moreover it was funded by neighboring country which is tasting fruits of supporting extremists... same is the case with North- east rebels- they are on all time low... actually if you do not know then- bangladesh only helped India get rid of these rebels,... ..

On the other hand islamic extremist like you will never understand the beauty of diversity in a country... North east people are as much Indian as any other Indian... ...

If India decides to interfere in bangladesh negatively- you can do jack$hit about it... ... India bangladesh relations are improving and they will keep on; even if you wish other wise..

There are about 6 million Kashmiri Muslims and to pacify the insurgency there, India had to put 700,000 security force/troops. Imagine how many million personnel you are gonna need in North East states, which has a total population of 38 million.

But please go ahead and hurry up with your 4 lane free way and high speed railway through Siliguri corridor to Hanoi, as it will help the North East states population to economically and culturally integrate with their ethnic kin in Mekong Delta sub-region. That is India's official govt. look east policy after all, after 6 decades of failed effort to integrate North East states with "mainland" India:
Look East policy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Self determination for North East states will mean reduced interference and meddling of Delhi in Bhutan, Bangladesh as well as Burma.

 

[kalu_miah]

Now I know what is the meaning of "grapes are sour."

Grapes may be sour for Bangladesh, but it may yet taste very sweet like honey to China and USA, a convergence of geo-strategic interest, shall we say, to cut an "imperialist" pretender to its proper "size". USA gets a friendly Christian country added to ASEAN and China gets its South Tibet back, while reducing Delhi's meddling under China's soft under-belly, the Mekong Delta region of ASEAN.