China Betrays Kokang, Ignoring Kokang Chinese Seeking Its Help

[Huaren]

It won't create trouble for the PRC, maybe the US will get nervous but no one in the US actually cares about Taiwan anyway.

this is not about PRC, more than half of taiwanese officials are being educated in the US before take power and also there are those green parties who want to get KMT down, they all see US support as essential and will pay extra attention to US interest. Even if most of people in the US doesnt really care, those hold power in Taiwan (no matter which camps) would still do everything to not cause any possible trouble for the US international politics, even if it means that their own people have to pay for the bills.

 

[TheTruth]

this is not about PRC, more than half of taiwanese officials are being educated in the US before take power and also there are those green parties who want to get KMT down, they all see US support as essential and will pay extra attention to US interest. Even if most of people in the US doesnt really care, those hold power in Taiwan (no matter which camps) would still doing everything to not cause any possible trouble for the US international politics, even if it means that their own people have to pay for the bills.

You're partially correct, many of these 50% take summer trips to Japan to lick LDP assholes. But the better half of Taiwanese are a bit closer to reality.

 

[Huaren]

You're partially correct, many of these 50% take summer trips to Japan to lick LDP assholes. But the better half of Taiwanese are a bit closer to reality.

true that might be, but to me taiwan is a lost case as in the sense capable to act on its own interest for their own people, any "state" with such "handicap" like taiwan has will become lost case. In any case, chinese people around needing protection will have to look/pray for elsewhere.

 

[TheTruth]

true that might be, but to me taiwan is a lost case as in the sense capable to act on its own interest for their own people, any "state" with such "handicap" like taiwan has will become lost case. In any case, chinese people around needing protection will have to look/pray for elsewhere.

There's also self-reliance, as the Singaporeans showed ... then again they're letting in all sorts of ingrates and traitors, surnamed Deepadoopa or Guptigaligoo

I mean they could machine gun them into the Malacca Straits if they become too troublesome, but there will be New Delhi like smell ...

 

[Huaren]

There's also self-reliance, as the Singaporeans showed ... then again they're letting in all sorts of ingrates and traitors, surnamed Deepadoopa or Guptigaligoo

I mean they could machine gun them into the Malacca Straits if they become too troublesome, but there will be a curry smell ...

Actually I would have more faith for Taiwan if its more like Singapore in term of political structure, like if the Jiang family kept the power then Taiwan would in fact be able to look more after its selfinterest, instead we have the current system which made it easier to be manipulated/balanced by daddy from outside (by rotating to new generations of traitors again and again from top to downside).

 

[TheTruth]

Actually I would have more faith for Taiwan if its more like Singapore in term of pilitical structure, like if the Jiang family kept the power then Taiwan would in fact be able to look more after its selfinterest, instead we have the current system which made it easier to be manipulated/balanced by daddy from outside.

Good thing the business leaders have some sense, still. Rather than a daddy it's more like a creepy pedophile that tries to use candy to get what he wants. But he finds Linda Pesos and Duc Nyugen to be much nicer targets

 

[TaiShang]

This is why Taiwan needs to heavily arm itself for war with smaller states that murder Chinese or other East Asian civilians. PRC is too big to do it without looking like a bully, Taiwan can take on almost any genocidal country in the region and the PRC can intervene if there's a counterattack.

I agree. But, I think Taiwan is politically (internal) crippled.

As you may know, last time when Phil killed Taiwanese fisherman, there was a lot of pressure by the US office of Taiwan on the government.

Same goes with the tainted US beef. The government played with the citizens' health by re-regulating the allowable amount of dangerous stuff on US beef.

 

[Daniel808]

You get what I meant right? You can't really choose. Murder my own race, I can't do that. I hope that doesn't come to you one day.

I am Chinese Indonesian, and I am Totally Agree with You, Brother.

 

[rott]

My two cents. I am 100% pure ethnic Han Chinese. I am the first generation of overseas Chinese born here and I will try to make it as brief as possible.
1. We are citizens of another country. I don't expect China to engage another country militarily.
2. If a war does break out, I would wish the Chinese government to accommodate us overseas Chinese as refugees.
3. If a similar riots does take place like the one in Indonesia. I would wish the Chinese government to send transportation and evacuate the people in need of help.
4. Helping overseas Chinese and evacuation does not necessarily mean intervention in another countries affairs. It's can be simply put in the same page like any disaster relief program. Eg. Evacuation of people from earthquakes, Hurricanes, tsunamis etc.
5. Lastly, it's we who left China and not China who left us.
All we ask for is Evacuation in the event of any war or civil unrest.

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

My two cents. I am 100% pure ethnic Han Chinese. I am the first generation of overseas Chinese born here and I will try to make it as brief as possible.
1. We are citizens of another country. I don't expect China to engage another country militarily.
2. If a war does break out, I would wish the Chinese government to accommodate us overseas Chinese as refugees.
3. If a similar riots does take place like the one in Indonesia. I would wish the Chinese government to send transportation and evacuate the people in need of help.
4. Helping overseas Chinese and evacuation does not necessarily mean intervention in another countries affairs. It's can be simply put in the same page like any disaster relief program. Eg. Evacuation of people from earthquakes, Hurricanes, tsunamis etc.
5. Lastly, it's we who left China and not China who left us.
All we ask for is Evacuation in the event of any war or civil unrest.

True that should be done.

Rather, every overseas Chinese should be given free visas. It is not foreign intervention by taking people in. Also, China can tell them strictly that it won't tolerate any lobbying by them against the interests of a foreign state.

 

[Place Of Space]

My two cents. I am 100% pure ethnic Han Chinese. I am the first generation of overseas Chinese born here and I will try to make it as brief as possible.
1. We are citizens of another country. I don't expect China to engage another country militarily.
2. If a war does break out, I would wish the Chinese government to accommodate us overseas Chinese as refugees.
3. If a similar riots does take place like the one in Indonesia. I would wish the Chinese government to send transportation and evacuate the people in need of help.
4. Helping overseas Chinese and evacuation does not necessarily mean intervention in another countries affairs. It's can be simply put in the same page like any disaster relief program. Eg. Evacuation of people from earthquakes, Hurricanes, tsunamis etc.
5. Lastly, it's we who left China and not China who left us.
All we ask for is Evacuation in the event of any war or civil unrest.

About this, in my opinion, overseas Chinese and local people respect each other and treat each other equally, there is no problem at all. If it's a civilized nation/society, there is no problem, if it's a brutal nation/govt, China can do nothing effectively except for evacuation.

Nowadays there are also millions of foreigners living in China. Mutual respect is the core and basic.

 

[somsak]

About this, in my opinion, overseas Chinese and local people respect each other and treat each other equally, there is no problem at all. If it's a civilized nation/society, there is no problem, if it's a brutal nation/govt, China can do nothing effectively except for evacuation.

Nowadays there are also millions of foreigners living in China. Mutual respect is the core and basic.

Theoretically, yes.
But...
Discrimination and look down is everywhere.
Finding reason to rob is everywhere.
When someone is weak but rich, and diffferent, you can expect what to happened.