China Betrays Kokang, Ignoring Kokang Chinese Seeking Its Help

[powastick]

This question is very sensitive if it involve internal politic of the nation.
For me, i am malaysian chinese. Of course i am malaysia first, but i don't have to try hard to prove it.

It would hypocritical and dishonest for me to say that. I don't know about you but if a person who has no problem murdering his kin, he is certainly not a trustworthy person.

 

[Nan Yang]

I have relatives who live in Brazil (from my father's side); they migrated there in the 1920s. They may be Nihonjin in appearance (well some are married to Brazilians now), but their heart and character is more Brazilian (Latino Culture) than it is for Japan. They are Brazilians first, and ethnic Japanese second.

Even the Japanese-Americans here in the 'states -- they identify first with America as they are American Nationals, American Citizens. Last would be their Japanese ethnicity.

The same should apply for you, buddy. You are son of Malaysia first, second should be your ethnicity being Han.

But Japan citizenship is based on race.
Fujimori was the President of Peru but fled to Japan and can become Japanese because he was ethically Japanese.

 

[Aepsilons]

But Japan citizenship is based on race.
Fujimori was the President of Peru but fled to Japan and can become Japanese because he was ethically Japanese.

THE NATIONALITY LAW

 

[BoQ77]

But Japan citizenship is based on race.
Fujimori was the President of Peru but fled to Japan and can become Japanese because he was ethically Japanese.

As @Nihonjin1051 link, your statement is baseless.
An orphan without any relation to Japanese blood could get Japanese citizenship.

Many Vietnamese and Chinese have Japanese citizenship too.
Their kids, of course, have it.

 

[Nan Yang]

That is why overseas chinese should protect themselves first instead hoping for help. Always have a plan to flee. Securing mainland geopolitics is more important. If our forefathers migrated to other countries, you should be willing to migrate away.

Malaysian Chinese vote with their feet. He he he

 

[Aepsilons]

As @Nihonjin1051 link, your statement is baseless.
An orphan without any relation to Japanese blood could get Japanese citizenship.

Many Vietnamese and Chinese have Japanese citizenship too.
Their kids, of course, have it.

Very well said, @BoQ77 . People need to learn some facts before they say unfounded things.

 

[Genesis]

Very well said, @BoQ77 . People need to learn some facts before they say unfounded things.

then nobody can say anything, because nobody is an expert in everything, especially with a lot of things being in a different language, and without actual understanding of it, you can't get a grasp of it.

 

[Aepsilons]

then nobody can say anything, because nobody is an expert in everything, especially with a lot of things being in a different language, and without actual understanding of it, you can't get a grasp of it.

One should do proper research before saying something, either it be political, economic, defense, or civil rights related. Period.

 

[Genesis]

One should do proper research before saying something, either it be political, economic, defense, or civil rights related. Period.

and who do you suppose does that on this forum, I can prove you wrong on anyone, except the guy with one post that says, I'm new here. that can also be false if the poster is someone that got banned.

 

[somsak]

I think Kokang is a special case of Oversea Chinese. They are too outlier to be an example of Oversea Chinese.

Main outlier is that,

1. Kokang is an armed group with capital city. This make them look more like a country. Oversea Chinese are not an armed group with no capital city.
2. Kokang lives just across the border from China, while Oversea Chinese has a large ocean between them and China, or are not land connected.
3. Kokang power may come from drug manufactuering (Im not sure)

These traits make Kokang a special category than Oversea Chinese.
This implies that what China is doing to Kokang cannot be generalize to Oversea Chinese.

 

[cnleio]

3. Kokang power may come from drug manufactuering (Im not sure)

Few years ago Kokang local government's economy came from the drug trades, recent years their economy come from holding outside Casino & Usury (Most gamblers from YunNan province of China).

 

[TheTruth]

Not this time around. China is strong enough to defend itself and nobody can touch China without risking their own survival. This is the hard-earned wisdom that started with the building of atomic bomb.

Currently, China's foreign policy is historical materialist. There is no rush, only calculated steps. Mistakes? Plenty, but, at least, once learned, there is no ideological rigidity to repeat the same mistake over and over again. That's is pragmatism.

China knows it needs a peaceful environment to continue its growth until basic national economic goals are reached. The crisis in Myanmar is viewed from this perspective. China won't be jumping up and down on the first sign of a crisis.

This is not China's way. It won't be.

This is why Taiwan needs to heavily arm itself for war with smaller states that murder Chinese or other East Asian civilians. PRC is too big to do it without looking like a bully, Taiwan can take on almost any genocidal country in the region and the PRC can intervene if there's a counterattack.

 

[Huaren]

This is why Taiwan needs to heavily arm itself for war with smaller states that murder Chinese or other East Asian civilians. PRC is too big to do it without looking like a bully, Taiwan can take on almost any genocidal country in the region and the PRC can intervene if there's a counterattack.

But the reality is that Taiwan is also doing less than it should be even if they were dealing with weaker states (in the sense of navy capabilities), like how its own fishermen being killed by pinoy or being chased by others. Even heard from time to time that some of taiwanese fishermen prefered to hang PRC flags as which is believed to give more protection (might just be emotional outburst/remarks), the problem is not the lack of weapon.

 

[powastick]

This is why Taiwan needs to heavily arm itself for war with smaller states that murder Chinese or other East Asian civilians. PRC is too big to do it without looking like a bully, Taiwan can take on almost any genocidal country in the region and the PRC can intervene if there's a counterattack.

Taiwan can't act without creating trouble for 'you know who'. At most sanctions, that don't solve problem.

 

[TheTruth]

But the reality is that Taiwan is also doing less than it should be even if they were dealing with weaker states (in the sense of navy capabilities), like how its own fishermen being killed by pinoy or being chased by others. Even heard from time to time that some of taiwanese fishermen prefered to hang PRC flags as which is believed to give more protection (might just be emotional outburst/remarks), the problem is not the lack of weapon.

Absolutely, many Taiwanese are soft-hearted fools.

Taiwan can't act without creating trouble for 'you know who'. At most sanctions, that don't solve problem.

It won't create trouble for the PRC, maybe the US will get nervous but no one in the US actually cares about Taiwan anyway.