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China asks WHO to investigate Fort Detrick, UNC bio labs through diplomatic channel

are you stupid? I offered a possible explanation for why the WHO is not interested in Ft Detrick. You are obviously not happy with my explanation which is why I suggested you go talk to Tedros.

Capiche! Or do you want me to dumb it down for you?
And I also questioned your explanation as bullshit. I don't assign emotions on public posts, questioning numbs numbs does not mean I am not happy at your statements. I am as usual just questioning you so that you can see the retardness in your logic. Kapische? Lol
There was no leak in 2019, Ft. Detrick was temporarily shut down because it was found in breach of strictly defined operating procedures. Yes, if there was a leak at Ft. Detrick then CDC have to report it to the WHO. Clearly you have taken the same position as your Chinese friends and claimed a phantom leak and a conspiracy to hide said phantom leak. There was no leak, CDC audited Ft. Detrick and found the facility in violation of operating procedures and shut down the facility until these deficiencies were addressed.

The facility was shut down by CDC for two reasons 1. because staff did not complete their recertification in time. 2. The waste water disposal unit did not meet the required safety standards. Now were you really interested in these facts? I suspect not...
Ooo so now you work for Ft Derrick? YOU KNOW THERE WAS NO LEAK EVEN WHEN NOBODY INVESTIGATED? SEE THE STUPIDITY IN YOUR LOGIC?
 
Anything are possible may from Wuhan or from Fort Detrick, But western attitude toward China is similar to Soviet Union in cold war, Evil is always Soviets and Now China an West, Especially USA always being innocent, And @dbc why WHO is not asking to you to gave a permit to investigate Fort Detrick is probably that You're (West) in power in whole UN/WHO lol
 
So the new legal principle is guilty until proven innocent eh? China opened up to the WHO and US until today remained in silence over the 2019 vape pneumonia outbreak.

WHO hasn't made a formal request to investigate the labs, and the US is not going to do so at China’s insistence.

If the usa goes after China over lies about a lab leak

Here are some possible retaliations:

Give billions of dollars worth of military equipment to each of these countries
-Argentina
-Venezuela
-Cuba
-Iran
-Syria
and any other enemies of Washington
focus on FC-31 for production aircraft, ADS (look to Iran for guidence), drones and inexpensive artillery
You can't give out free equipment to Pakistan, unless Pakistan is opposed to the us/uk, not an ally.

Rebuild around the world:
Lebanon's economy
Iraq with new parliament outside green zone, walled. Theme is hanging gardens.
Syria
Afghanistan

Demand us troops out of Syria, Iraq and other places of occupation - end of the looting and shakedowns and bribes and threats

Stockpile huge amounts of:
gold, silver, iron, copper

Dump
us treasuries

Get Latin Americans socialist countries and other countries to nationalize resources (China would support them at the UN with Russia), with free help of Chinese equipment for production to get mining at full capacity
-kick out usa from countries

Prevent
usa from sanctioning free countries - make socialist and other countries aligned with China - self-sufficient in industry and commerce so venezuela plight is never repeated
make free loving countries strong

If you want more revenge
-open up China to Ethereum trading to smash cia bitcoin popularity
- fix the yuan at 1 to 1 usa, base the yuan on gold or silver.

Borrow bonds from Chinese patriots and spend....

Where to spend

1000 subs of different varieties
semi-submersible fleet
1000s of H-20
20K fifth/sixth gen fighters
1M 155mm towed artillery
100K SPH 155mm
300K coastal artillery
100s of 1000s of SATs and ASATs
10K type 15 tanks
10K type 99A tanks

this is 10 years of production

nuclear icbms that work - so develop icb rockets or HGV that are highly developed to withstand EW and DEW and high heat, and low accuracy for rockets. So make 500K, aim them between UK and Hawaii and launch 200K at once and see what happens.

Don't get into a war in the near term, get 10X the military of the rest of the world combined in both secret tech and overt weapons. Then bully the us/uk for decades make working slaves out of the usaians.

Develop star cruisers to be made by 2080.

All this is just for investigating a lab? And does China have an endless amount of cash to spend on weapons? Delusional thinking.
 
WHO hasn't made a formal request to investigate the labs, and the US is not going to do so at China’s insistence.



All this is just for investigating a lab? And does China have an endless amount of cash to spend on weapons? Delusional thinking.
I guessed CIA managed to bribe Tedros? China opened up to WHO in Wuhan and US don't dare to do the same? What's there to hide? Lolol
 
Ooo so now you work for Ft Derrick? YOU KNOW THERE WAS NO LEAK EVEN WHEN NOBODY INVESTIGATED? SEE THE STUPIDITY IN YOUR LOGIC?

I don't work at Ft. Derrick - whatever that is...
but I do know how to look for information on the internet. Both CDC and USAMRIID disclosed CDC findings from the inspection.

The facility was shut down for failing an inspection not because something leaked...

numbs numbs

:lol:
 
So now the US intelligence Service has finally decided to release a report to President Biden that read COVID 19 is not a biological warfare weapon in and admitted it does not know where is the origin of COVID.

It is all so obvious. Very political.

To protect Fort Detrick from being investigated.

Now that China has officially requested WHO to investigate Fort Detrick Military Biological Laboratory, University of North Carolina and elsewhere.
:cheers:
 
11 WHO-China team scientists warn window for virus origins inquiry closing fast amid political interference, hype of 'lab leak' theory
By GT staff reportersPublished: Aug 25, 2021 11:22 PM

Illustration: Liu Rui/GT

Illustration: Liu Rui/GT

In a rare move, the international scientists of WHO's SARS-CoV-2 origins tracing mission to China on Wednesday warned that the window for key scientific study is closing due to months-long stalled follow-up work since WHO's March report, stressing the urgency for scientific collaborative study while removing political interference which has focused on the lab leak theory, tried to discredit scientists and drive a wedge among them.

In the most recent paper published in Nature, 11 international scientists including Dutch virologist Marion Koopmans and EcoHealth Alliance president Peter Daszak who undertook a 28-day mission to Wuhan, Central China's Hubei Province in January on the global study of virus origins and completed a WHO report in March, said the March report was "meant to be the first step" in a process that has stalled. It warned the window of opportunity for conducting this crucial inquiry is closing fast, and any delay will render some of the studies biologically impossible. "Understanding the origins of a devastating pandemic is a global priority, grounded in science," the piece said.

Koopmans told the Global Times on Wednesday that the authors of the Nature paper wanted to draw attention to the long delay between the initial work and the start of follow-up studies. "We now are approaching September, and there is no indication of when follow-up work could start. We feel that is taking too long and wanted to express that concern," she said.

In explaining the urgency of the next stage origins tracing work, Koopmans mentioned some time-sensitive studies such as the serological studies to stored blood bank samples collected in the later months of 2019 to identify the earlier pockets of cases.

She said WHO scientists talked to Hubei's blood banks during their stay and agreed to keep the samples, but "we also recommended similar studies in other regions inside and outside of China with early evidence for cases using the same methods, and that has not been arranged and may become impossible," she said.

Another author of the paper who requested anonymity told the Global Times on Wednesday that as time goes by, samples will get misplaced or degraded, people's memories will fade and antibodies will wane, making tracing work harder.

Moreover, the origins tracing work is now closely connected with international relations. The anonymous author said the sooner we get closer to an answer on origins, the sooner international relations will begin to improve as the "focus on the lab leak theory may mean on-the-ground work gets held up by political arguments."

Ever since the scientists completed and released their report of the China mission in March, US-led Western countries have geared up political manipulation to smear China using the "lab leak" theory, which was deemed as extremely unlikely in the report, discredited the report and pressed international scientists to change their natural hypothesis views.

The anonymous author, also a team member of the WHO-China joint study team, said it's clear political messaging and interference have tried to undermine the report's findings, discredit scientists involved, and try to drive a wedge among them.

"We stand united as a team behind the work we did with our colleagues in China. We reaffirm our confidence in the results of our analyses on which pathways are most likely and which are not, and strongly believe in the importance of keeping this work as a scientific collaborative study, and removing political influences," he said.

In the paper, the WHO scientist stated six priorities for follow-up studies to lead from the initial studies in China, highlighting critical trace-back of people and animals in regions inside and outside China that have the earliest evidence for circulation of the virus, and targeted surveys of possible reservoir or intermediate hosts. But it did not include the "lab leak" theory, a sharp contrast with the WHO's next-phase origins-tracing work proposal asking for "audits of laboratories in Wuhan" and Biden's 90-day intelligence report.

Koopmans said that the paper did not include "lab leak" hypothesis as initial work did not provide evidence for involvement of a laboratory, and in the paper, scientists said since the March report, "We have publicly called for any data supporting the lab leak hypothesis to be published and submitted to the WHO. None has, so far."

Chinese health officials and scientists have rejected repeatedly virus origins studies driven by "lab leak" hypothesis.

Liang Wannian, the team leader of the Chinese side of the WHO-convened joint expert team on origins tracing, told a media briefing this month that scientists reached the consensus of "extremely unlikely" after thorough study in Wuhan on the lab leak hypothesis, which should not be included in the next-phase study, considering the conclusions and evidence from the joint report.

In fact, the next-phase study should be carried out in multiple places worldwide covering countries such as where the Chinese horseshoe bat and pangolins reside, nations that lack sufficient testing, places with animal and human being data tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 and who supplied Wuhan Huanan market through cold-chain logistics, Liang said.
WHO priorities for phase 2 studies. Graphic: Deng Zijun/GT

WHO priorities for phase 2 studies. Graphic: Deng Zijun/GT
 
American have no qualms about nuking civilians and using blacks as test subjects, so releasing a virus in central China is not out of realm of possibility. Only the chinese were prepared and the virus mutated. It also explain why American was nonchalant at the beginning and cheering on the death of the CCP.
 
I don't work at Ft. Derrick - whatever that is...
but I do know how to look for information on the internet. Both CDC and USAMRIID disclosed CDC findings from the inspection.

The facility was shut down for failing an inspection not because something leaked...



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Exactly you know jackshit and you are so confident of the innocence of Ft Derrick. I asked you to prove to me the degree of collaboration and access rights, until now you keep avoiding answering me. Lol
 
I believe that if there are no problems, the U.S. government will show the Chinese government what open and transparent cooperation means.

If the US feels humiliated, it can demand to be investigated alongside the Chinese lab. We are willing to cooperate.
 
I don't work at Ft. Derrick - whatever that is...
but I do know how to look for information on the internet. Both CDC and USAMRIID disclosed CDC findings from the inspection.

The facility was shut down for failing an inspection not because something leaked...



:lol:
Do you know what is the white powder Mr powell holding when he try to invade Iraq? Is it washing powder ? You seems to know a lot of things your dumb politicians tell to the media.
 
12 nations reporting 'patient zero' from US among 7 reasons to probe it on virus origins: Chinese FM
By Global TimesPublished: Aug 27, 2021 07:29 PM

EVALI Photo:GT

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Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson listed seven reasons for the US to invite the World Health Organization (WHO) for COVID-19 origins investigation on Friday, including vaping-related lung disease patients in 2019 having the similar symptoms with COVID-19, evidence of infection in five states which appeared back in December 2019 and 12 countries claiming their COVID-19 "patient zero" was imported from the US, following a US official's claim that there was no reason for a US investigation.

Instead of thinking about how to control the epidemic in the US and save people's lives, some US politicians are trying to pass the buck for their own failure of COVID-19 response to China with a set-up intelligence report, which will only set back and undermine international virus tracing efforts and global cooperation against the epidemic, spokesperson Zhao Lijian said at Friday's media briefing.

US' claims that China refused to provide necessary information was only an excuse to cover up its failure in leveraging intelligence to trace the virus origins, Zhao said.

He asked the US whether the following seven reasons were considered as "reasons" for the US, since the US claimed it would support a US investigation if there were reasons.

First, the symptoms of vaping-related lung disease outbreak in Wisconsin in July 2019 were highly similar with COVID-19. Can this be a reason?

Second, according to the US NIH website, research has shown evidence of infection in five states appeared back in December 2019. Can this be a reason?

Third, US government officials sealed blood samples collected before January 2, 2020 from further testing on national security grounds.

Fourth, Florida had published data of 171 early cases occurred in January and February 2020, only for the related data to be later removed.

Fifth, there were around 200 netizens from the US or countries connected to the US claiming that they or others suspected that they were infected with COVID-19 as early as November 2019.

Sixth, 12 countries including Costa Rica and Kenya, have publicly identified their COVID-19 "patient Zero" was imported from the US.

Biosafety protective suits for handling viral diseases are hung up outside a chemical decontamination room in a biosafety level 4 training facility at Fort Detrick Photo: AP

Biosafety protective suits for handling viral diseases are hung up outside a chemical decontamination room in a biosafety level 4 training facility at Fort Detrick Photo: AP

Seventh, Fort Detrick and University of North Carolina both have poor safety records when it comes to coronavirus research. Fort Detrick was shut down by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention after a serious security incident in the fall of 2019, just before the COVID-19 outbreak.

The US should face up to legitimate questions raised by the international community, and invite the WHO to conduct a review of Fort Detrick and the University of North Carolina to trace the source of the virus and disclose the original data of early cases in the US since it's confident that it had no problem. If the US refuses to accept these conditions, it will only further expose the true face of politicizing the virus origins tracing, Zhao said.

Zhao's seven reasons came after Reuters citing an anonymous US official said if there were sound, technically credible reasons for a US investigation, the US would support it. "But there are none," the official said.

China on Tuesday for the first time officially demanded the WHO investigate Fort Detrick lab and the University of North Carolina through diplomatic channels, as Chen Xu, Permanent Representative of China to the UN Office at Geneva and other International Organizations in Switzerland, on Tuesday sent a letter to Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the Director-General of the WHO, asking the WHO to conduct an investigation in the two US locations during the next round of virus origins investigation in the spirit of fairness and justice. The letter is attached to a petition signed by more than 25 million Chinese netizens sent to the WHO demanding an investigation into the Fort Detrick lab.
 
So it took you guys 3 days to organize and coordinate this rebuttal?
Excellent work boys chairman Xi will be proud of you 👍
@dbc enjoy fighting them
 
USA TODAY

US intelligence finds China did not know about COVID-19 before outbreak, still divided over origin
Maureen Groppe and Joey Garrison, USA TODAY

3 hrs ago

WASHINGTON – U.S. intelligence officials remain divided over the origins of COVID-19, with some analysts concluding it was likely caused by natural exposure to an infected animal and others believing the first human infection was probably the result of a laboratory-associated incident, according to a new report.

The Biden administration report on the origins of COVID-19 found the virus "was not developed as a biological weapon." It also concluded China "did not have foreknowledge of the virus before the initial outbreak" of COVID-19 in late 2019.
"After examining all available intelligence reporting and other information, though, the IC (intelligence community) remains divided on the most likely origin of COVID-19," a summary of the report released Friday reads. "All agencies assess that two hypotheses are plausible: natural exposure to an infected animal and a laboratory-associated incident."
 
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