China announced China-India border security talk failed, blaming India has unrealistic goals in the talks

[Shehryar Ashraf]

now that is is established that there is no diplomatic solution to the border conflict, there is now, only one way to resolve this.

 

[newb3e]

You can keep harking back to 1960s whereas the world including India has moved on. India wants to solve all border issues with China, but China keeps its foot dragging.

so its only okay for Indians to refer to past (71) because it boosts their ego and not for others?

Mitaaarunnnn!!!

 

[magra]

so its only okay for Indians to refer to past (71) because it boosts their ego and not for others?

Mitaaarunnnn!!!

You want to talk about present, fine. Tell me when is the next loan installment payment due for Pakistan? I hear IMF is laying out some conditions before Pakistan.

 

[newb3e]

You want to talk about present, fine. Tell me when is the next loan installment payment due for Pakistan? I hear IMF is laying out some conditions before Pakistan.

how is Modi g doing?

heard your engineers and famrers omitting suicide and yes rapes rapes are very comon in shinning India!

and while we at it how is abhi boy? still flying?

 

[serenity]

Thank you for your explanation.

As I understand your statements, you are saying that pre-Galwan status quo is not acceptable to China as it fears that it allows India an access to Aksai Chin which India can potentially use to invade and capture Aksai Chin in future. Am I correct?
Can you not simply create a wall on your land to ward off potential India attack. You are experts in wall making right (eg. Great Wall of China).
What right do you have to demand India to relinquish territory because you fear of a future attack?

Basically you got it. But your suggestion is too unreal. China building a wall to seal off Aksai Chin will not be allowed by India. Also walls can easily just be shot and created many openings. It does nothing to stop and prevent future invasion.

What China wants from India is signed agreements which India cannot break so easy. Agreements for a buffer to seal off Aksai Chin. A wall can easily get knocked down in one area and then the whole thing is useless.

 

[Place Of Space]

So are you admitting that China changed the status quo which was there before the Galwan incident? If yes, then why is China blaming India when you are admitting that China is the aggressor here.

Look, it's simple. India has to pay the price of every provocation.
Everytime India cross the line, India will loose more territory until India can't stand and start a scale war.

 

[magra]

how is Modi g doing?
heard your engineers and famrers omitting suicide and yes rapes rapes are very comon in shinning India!

I am not saying that India has no domestic issues. We will tackle them on our own. Pakistan needs to tackle its own issues and not put its nose between India and China, or else you might get hurt in the crossfire.

and while we at it how is abhi boy? still flying?

We dont share secrets about our armed force personnel. You will know when it is needed to be told.

 

[MH.Yang]

Global Times is CCP mouthpiece and directed at governments and not readers.

The mouthpieces of the Chinese govt are <people's daily>, <PLA Daily>, <China Youth Daily>, <Qiushi> and <Xinhua Daily>, not < Global Times >. Global Times is similar to FOXtv in China.

 

[magra]

Basically you got it. But your suggestion is too unreal. China building a wall to seal off Aksai Chin will not be allowed by India. Also walls can easily just be shot and created many openings. It does nothing to stop and prevent future invasion.

You putting a wall in your territory is like you building bunkers in your territory. How will India be able to oppose? India has built wire fences on its LOC with Pakistan, which has reduced Pak endorsed infiltration by a lot.

What China wants from India is signed agreements which India cannot break so easy. Agreements for a buffer to seal off Aksai Chin. A wall can easily get knocked down in one area and then the whole thing is useless.

Buffer wont be needed once we have the wire fence and sign agreement to convert the current holding into actual borders.

Look, it's simple. India has to pay the price of every provocation.
Everytime India cross the line, India will loose more territory until India can't stand and start a scale war.

Other Chinese posters are admitting that they are trying to ingress into Indian held lands to seal off any access to Aksai Chin. So it does not look like India crossed the line. India just blocked your attempts to occupy our side of the line.

 

[MH.Yang]

See this on globaltimes.cn

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That's the international edition of the global times. Look at the domestic version. The headlines are pandas, floods and entertainment star.

The International Edition is for foreigners, especially Indians. The domestic version is for the Chinese people.

 

[magra]

The mouthpieces of the Chinese govt are <people's daily>, <PLA Daily>, <China Youth Daily>, <Qiushi> and <Xinhua Daily>, not < Global Times >. Global Times is similar to FOXtv in China.

CCP owns Global Times. Are you saying that is not a fact?

That's the international edition of the global times. Look at the domestic version. The headlines are pandas, floods and entertainment star.

The International Edition is for foreigners, especially Indians. The domestic version is for the Chinese people.

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I am sitting in US and still can see the India centric news as the main headline on Global Times. So clearly, Chinese govt is most worried about India at present.

 

[MH.Yang]

CCP owns Global Times. Are you saying that is not a fact?

Look at the figure below. The equity of global times belongs to four entertainment companies. It is not a state-owned enterprise.
Why does global times international pay attention to India? Because there are many Internet users in India, paying attention to Indian news can attract more international Internet users.

 

[magra]

Look at the figure below. The equity of global times belongs to four entertainment companies. It is not a state-owned enterprise.
Why does global times international pay attention to India? Because there are many Internet users in India, paying attention to Indian news can attract more international Internet users.


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Global Times is owned by People's Daily.

People's Daily is in turn owned by CCP.

 

[MH.Yang]

Global Times is owned by People's Daily.
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People's Daily is in turn owned by CCP.

100% of the shares of Chinese state-owned enterprises belong to the national development and Reform Commission. People's daily is a state-owned enterprise, but people's daily is only the largest shareholder of global times, which has three shareholders. Global Times is a mixed enterprise, not a state-owned enterprise.

So are you admitting that China changed the status quo which was there before the Galwan incident? If yes, then why is China blaming India when you are admitting that China is the aggressor here.

The gallewan incident was caused by the Indian invasion.
China only gained some buffer zones in the counterattack after the incident.

 

[magra]

100% of the shares of Chinese state-owned enterprises belong to the national development and Reform Commission. People's daily is a state-owned enterprise, but people's daily is only the largest shareholder of global times, which has three shareholders. Global Times is a mixed enterprise, not a state-owned enterprise.

So you admit that Global Times is majority held by state, and only minority shares are privately held.

The gallewan incident was caused by the Indian invasion.
China only gained some buffer zones in the counterattack after the incident.

When you cant even spell the name correct (Galwan, not Gallewan), I can understand you know little about the issues.