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China and Vietnam in stand-off over Chinese survey ship mission to disputed reef in South China Sea

Ok half of posts or so were deleted by Mods.

Either way, Vietnam says she will not back down from this confrontation and vows to fight until the bitter end.
If CN want to win, then CN has to force JP stop letting VN-Russia using her oil rig first.

After that, CN has to force Russia stop supporting VN.

Seem like its a "mission impossible" when both Russia-JP also want CN collapse :lol:
 
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https://amp.scmp.com/news/china/dip...ea-vietnam-extends-operation-oil-rig-vanguard

Xi Jingping will decide if he wants to fight a four front war against Vietnam, America, Russia and Japan.

If CN want to win, then CN has to force JP stop letting VN-Russia using her oil rig first.

After that, CN has to force Russia stop supporting VN.

Seem like its an "mission impossible" when both Russia-JP also want CN collapse :lol:
I think so too, the region southern of China will be peaceful forever if is cut off into 10 small pieces. Or equal the size of VN. Let’s see if they still want to threaten us military.
 
https://amp.scmp.com/news/china/dip...ea-vietnam-extends-operation-oil-rig-vanguard

Xi Jingping will decide if he wants to fight a four front war against Vietnam, America, Russia and Japan.


I think so too, the region southern of China will be peaceful forever if is cut off into 10 small pieces. Or equal the size of VN. Let’s see if they still want to threaten us military.
Everyone realize that the fall of CN is unstopable. HK unrest showing that CN students have No choice but fighting to the end cos Xi failed to create job for them due to trade war.( 4million graduated CN students cant find job now)

VN leaders also realize that CN economy is so bad now and its time to force CN to remove their U-shape claim in SCS( east VN sea). When CN get weaker and weaker due to trade war and can not protect their U-shape claim, then VN can quickly send our forces to take back all lost isls and quickly unify sub Mekong wt great help from Russia.:cool:
 
I think so too, the region southern of China will be peaceful forever if is cut off into 10 small pieces. Or equal the size of VN. Let’s see if they still want to threaten us military.
What a daily talk show between you and your soul mate @Viva_Viet. :rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
Dude, lets make some fun...untill 2023 chaos.:lol:

Btw: hope u guys realize that its almost impossible for CN to remove that Jap rig wt Russian protection :lol:
Found a pic of the rig, looks nice. we should calculate with the worst. who knows if they try to ramm the rig eventually? the Japanese know how to build high quality rigs :-) but if Xi orders his ships to ramm and kill Russians on the rig, what then?

@Suika

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Found a pic of the rig, looks nice. we should calculate with the worst. who knows if they try to ramm the rig eventually? the Japanese know how to build high quality rigs :-) but if Xi orders his ships to ramm and kill Russians on the rig, what then?

@Suika

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When Russian experts r there, then it mean Russia or VN sub Marines r under the water to protect them.

CN ships will be sunk before they can kill Russian experts on the rig.:)
 
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When Russian experts r there, then it mean Russia or VN sub Marines r under the water to protect them.

CN ships will be sunk before they can kill Russian experts on the rig.:)
Xi will accuse Putin of betrayal!
Russia dares allying with Vietnam against the interests of China! :disagree:

Maybe we will see the second Sino/Soviet split. I pray Xi won’t become nervous and push the red button.

He needs war to distract domestic audience from economics disaster.
 
China joined the Korea war under Stalin's request. China literally sacrificed its lives for Soviet Union. China just got paid for what it did for Soviet Union(aid). On the other hand, Vietnam never did one favor to China as a return of China's help. On the contary, Vietnam immediately became one of China's biggest enemies after they united their country.

What did china in Vietnam War ? when we were in fighting counter USA, with CCCP help, but China had secretly negotiated with our enemy from 1971. The intention of China was that to keep Vietnam to be in devided like korean...

https://china.usc.edu/getting-beijing-henry-kissingers-secret-1971-trip
 
What did china in Vietnam War ? when we were in fighting counter USA, with CCCP help, but China had secretly negotiated with our enemy from 1971. The intention of China was that to keep Vietnam to be in devided like korean...

https://china.usc.edu/getting-beijing-henry-kissingers-secret-1971-trip
Nixon wanted to withdraw American troops from Vietnam with dignity. So he had to get an agreement with the real player of Vietnam war under the table. Which is good for Vietnamese too.
 
Nixon wanted to withdraw American troops from Vietnam with dignity. So he had to get an agreement with the real player of Vietnam war under the table. Which is good for Vietnamese too.
chinese played dirty trick. that´s it, colluding with America in a secret negotiation.

you played the same trick when Vietnam won the war against the French.

the interview of former Prime Minister of Vietnam: Phạm Văn Đồng.
behind the back of Vietnam, Chinese delegation secretly colluded with the western powers.

keeping the wars ongoing, keeping Vietnam to be divided

 
chinese played dirty trick. that´s it, colluding with America in a secret negotiation.

you played the same trick when Vietnam won the war against the French.

the interview of former Prime Minister of Vietnam: Phạm Văn Đồng.
behind the back of Vietnam, Chinese delegation secretly colluded with the western powers.

keeping the wars ongoing, keeping Vietnam to be divided

In 1954, if China didn't negotiate with western countries, do you really believe US would watch Vietcong annex South Vietnam and did nothing?

In 1971, if China didn't make an agreement with US and US stayed in South Vietnam, do you think you had any chance to unite your country? Let's face it, Vietcong never won a battle except those jungle ambushes.
 
In 1954, if China didn't negotiate with western countries, do you really believe US would watch Vietcong annex South Vietnam and did nothing?

In 1971, if China didn't make an agreement with US and US stayed in South Vietnam, do you think you had any chance to unite your country? Let's face it, Vietcong never won a battle except those jungle ambushes.
Cnese knowledge abt defence sector is too poor, thats why we can ambush PLA men easily in 1979.

Dude, we r not only defeated them by setting ambush but we also defeated US in Electronic warfare, history recorded it.Thats why Im quite surprise while some Cnese believe CN have a "super jamming device" that can jam our missile :lol:

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History[edit]
The history of Electronic Warfare goes back to at least the beginning of the 20th century. The earliest documented consideration of EW was during the Russo-Japanese War of 1904-1905. The Japanese auxiliary cruiser, Shinano Maru, had located the Russian Baltic Fleet in Tsushima Strait, and was communicating the fleet's location by "wireless" to the Imperial Japanese Fleet HQ. The captain of the Russian warship, Orel, requested permission to disrupt the Japanese communications link by attempting to transmit a stronger radio signal over the Shinano Maru's signal hoping to distort the Japanese signal at the receiving end. Russian Admiral Zinovy Rozhestvensky refused the advice and denied the Orel permission to electronically jam the enemy, which in those circumstances might have proved invaluable. The intelligence the Japanese gained ultimately led to the decisive Battle of Tsushima. The battle was humiliating for Russia. The Russian navy lost all their battleships and most of its cruisers and destroyers. These staggering losses effectively ended the Russo-Japanese War in Japan's favor. 4,380 Russians were killed and 5,917 were captured, including two admirals, with a further 1,862 interned.[5]

During World War II, the Allies and Axis Powers both extensively used EW, or what Winston Churchill referred to as the "Battle of the Beams".[5] Navigational radars had gained in use to vector bombers to their targets and back to their home base. The first application of EW in WWII was to defeat those navigational radars.[5] Chaff was also introduced during WWII to confuse and defeat tracking radar systems.

As time progressed and battlefield communication and radar technology improved, so did electronic warfare. Electronic warfare played a major role in many military operations during the Vietnam War. Aircraft on bombing runs and air-to-air missions often relied on EW to survive the battle, although many were defeated by Vietnamese ECCM.[6

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_warfare
 
In 1954, if China didn't negotiate with western countries, do you really believe US would watch Vietcong annex South Vietnam and did nothing?

In 1971, if China didn't make an agreement with US and US stayed in South Vietnam, do you think you had any chance to unite your country? Let's face it, Vietcong never won a battle except those jungle ambushes.
If you hadn’t collided with the French, the Western powers, sabotaging the negotiation, Vietnam would be re-united, and the war with the US didn’t happen!

The war with the US was unnecessary!

That is proven.

Pham clearly said it: you are a traitor!

By the way, you don’t understand the term “Vietcong”. It is a term, that didn’t exist in 1954.

Your denial and poor knowledge of history is incredible.
 

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