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NEW DELHI — The Indian Air Force (IAF) has long had big ambitions, and the pending arrival of a new service chief with a broad agenda indicates there will be no easing up in efforts to improve the breadth of the service’s capabilities.

The first major restructuring of the IAF’s order of battle, a revival of border air bases to counter Chinese air force deployments and quick acquisitions of weapons and systems to plug capability gaps will be the operational priorities of the IAF’s next chief, Air Marshal Norman Browne, who takes office at the end of July.

The flow of foreign hardware into India will be substantial during the new chief’s time in office. Browne’s tenure as IAF chief also stands to see the signing of tens of billions of dollars in contracts.

The key program Browne will have to shepherd through is the $12 billion Medium Multirole Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) fighter jet contest. It is fitting since, as deputy IAF chief from 2007-2009, Browne played a central role in navigating the MMRCA teams through the process.

Moreover, his time at the helm also will see the government sign deals for 10 or more Boeing C-17 heavy transports, six new-generation tanker transports (the Airbus Military A330 and Ilyushin Il-78 are in the running), 22 attack helicopters, 12 heavy-lift helicopters and nearly 200 basic trainer aircraft. He also will be under pressure to ensure the smooth induction of several large, network-centric systems into the core of how the IAF operates.

The IAF also is likely to mark several milestones under Browne, including the entry of the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) into full operational service, and the certification of India’s indigenous Airborne Early Warning & Control platform.

An IAF officer who has worked closely with Browne says: “His other key commitments will include giving shape to how the Indian [Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft] and AMCA [unmanned combat aircraft] will turn out, and getting the LCA Tejas to full operational status in the shortest possible time.” The officer warns local industry that “HAL is going to find it has an unusually tough customer” in Browne.

With 3,100 hr. on aircraft that include the MiG-21, Su-30 and Jaguar, the officer strongly believes it is imperative for the IAF to diversify its equipment sources and ramp up its self-reliance.

Israel, which has emerged as one of India’s biggest suppliers of weapons and equipment in the last seven years, is a country that Browne knows well — he established India’s defense wing in Tel Aviv in April 1997, serving as defense attache there until July 2000.

Browne also will oversee substantial changes in asset deployments to give the IAF greater reach and faster response to perceived external threats.

Last October, Browne said the IAF would consider basing detachments of new-generation fighters at its high-altitude border bases, including Su-30MKIs.

Under Browne, the IAF also will raise its first fighter squadrons in India’s southern peninsula, including some of the aircraft acquired in the MMRCA competition, to provide security to India’s island territories and sea lanes.

Parity with the Pakistan Air Force, and to a much larger extent China’s air force, will be a major preoccupation for the new chief in the face of dwindling aircraft numbers. While a recent report by India’s tri-service Integrated Defense Staff warned that IAF-PAF force parities were at an all-time low, Browne is more sanguine about the trend. He has previously noted that “the asymmetry between the capabilities of both air forces was a certain amount in the past. That has somewhat [been] reduced now. The PAF is going in for a fast-track induction of beyond visual range air-to-air missiles and precision-guided munitions. These are things that actually tend to reduce the gap. But they won’t catch us up.”

:: Bharat-Rakshak.com - Indian Military News Headlines ::
 
The flow of foreign hardware into India will be substantial during the new chief’s time in office. Browne’s tenure as IAF chief also stands to see the signing of tens of billions of dollars in contracts.

Why not put that money into the indigenous defence industry? Rather than buying all that expensive foreign military equipment.

If you invest it in your own arms industry, that will lead to a multiplier effect for the economy. More investment at home, means more jobs at home. This will lead to more disposble income, and thus more domestic consumption. And of course... it will also boost your indigenous technological capabilities.

Though in a strategic sense, I can't really complain.
 
Why not put that money into the indigenous defence industry? Rather than buying all that expensive foreign military equipment.

If you invest it in your own arms industry, that will lead to a multiplier effect for the economy. More investment at home, means more jobs at home. This will lead to more disposble income, and thus more domestic consumption. And of course... it will also boost your indigenous technological capabilities.

Though in a strategic sense, I can't really complain.

coz they had better arms and so that even china like to buy them and urges EU to lift arms embargo

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/107731-china-urges-eu-lift-arms-embargo.html
 
coz they had better arms and so that even china like to buy them and urges EU to lift arms embargo

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/107731-china-urges-eu-lift-arms-embargo.html

That is just a political gesture.

No European country has yet produced a 5th generation fighter jet anyway.

So we might as well put in the extra effort, to improve our own indigenous capabilities. Every year, the gap will decrease... and one day in the future, the gap will be gone.
 
That is just a political gesture.

No European country has yet produced a 5th generation fighter jet anyway.

So we might as well put in the extra effort to improve our indigenous capabilities. Every year, the gap will decrease.

5th Generation fighter alone, wont make a country developed in the defense sector... Aside 5th gen fighter lot more is there...
 
That is just a political gesture.

No European country has yet produced a 5th generation fighter jet anyway.

So we might as well put in the extra effort to improve our indigenous capabilities. Every year, the gap will decrease.

gesture won't get repeated every second years , it's not gusture but a plead....

2004 , Wen to urge EU lifting of arms sale ban -
CHINA - EUROPE Wen to urge EU lifting of arms sale ban - Asia News

2006 , China urge EU to lift arms ban
China, France urge EU to lift arms ban

2011 , China urge EU to lift arms ban
http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/107731-china-urges-eu-lift-arms-embargo.html
 
gesture won't get repeated every second years , it's not gusture but a plead....

Obviously Europe is ahead of us in terms of technology. :lol:

But that is all the more reason, for us to put in a long-term effort to improve our own indigenous capabilities.
 
5th Generation fighter alone, wont make a country developed in the defense sector... Aside 5th gen fighter lot more is there...

Yes there are many things aside 5th gen fighter.But if you can develop a5th gen fighter then it will definetly make an impact.
REGARDS....
 
gesture won't get repeated every second years , it's not gusture but a plead....

2004 , Wen to urge EU lifting of arms sale ban -
CHINA - EUROPE Wen to urge EU lifting of arms sale ban - Asia News

2006 , China urge EU to lift arms ban
China, France urge EU to lift arms ban

2011 , China urge EU to lift arms ban
http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/107731-china-urges-eu-lift-arms-embargo.html

Because they always whined about the unbalanced trade with us, so this would be the best way to shut them up.
 
Why not put that money into the indigenous defence industry? Rather than buying all that expensive foreign military equipment.

If you invest it in your own arms industry, that will lead to a multiplier effect for the economy. More investment at home, means more jobs at home. This will lead to more disposble income, and thus more domestic consumption. And of course... it will also boost your indigenous technological capabilities.

Though in a strategic sense, I can't really complain.

We are getting the best of tech from all over the world...Germany,France,US,Russia,Israel..our variety in quality and our strength in quality is more than yours.Because your technological variety is less(indigenous industry) and you certainly lag behind France and US in terms of tech.
 
For China, the lifting of the EU arms embargo is more a pride issue rather than anything else. There is very few types of military equipment that the EU could sell now that the Chinese would be interested in putting into service into their own military. The only thing that I can really think of would be British Nuclear owered SSNs as China's current Type-093 is miles behind this UK sub. Think about it this way, if the Chinese are currently developing equipment such as J-20 stealth fighter(will be more advanced than any EU fighter in service at that time), PL-21D(equivalne to Meteor AAM) ramjet AAM, almost certainly an upgraded Type-052C destroyer(Type-052D? that should almost certainly match anything available then in Europe), what extra military capability would China gain by buying EU equipment that would cost around twice the price that China could produce indenegously?

What the Chinese would be more interested is procuring a small number in order to evaluate between what they have and what the EU has. The days of China needing EU equipment to strengthen it's military power have now passed.

China will, when looking at the whole spectrun of military technologies, surpass both the Russians and the EU to become the second most advanced military technogical power by 2020.

:china:
 
Why not put that money into the indigenous defence industry? Rather than buying all that expensive foreign military equipment.

If you invest it in your own arms industry, that will lead to a multiplier effect for the economy. More investment at home, means more jobs at home. This will lead to more disposble income, and thus more domestic consumption. And of course... it will also boost your indigenous technological capabilities.

Though in a strategic sense, I can't really complain.
We are investing money in indigenous industry also mate. But developing indigenously is not something which can be done over night. It takes years of time. We need to have world class institutes, research needs to be done by the professors, highly competitive universities, decent amount of investment into research projects etc etc. We just cannot wait until all these are fulfiled. We cannot afford to drop our guard just because we cannot produce indegenous stuff. So, for the time being and keeping India's interests we are on a buying spree. Hopefully, in 10-15 years of time we will have a pretty decent indigenous industry.
 
I think the forces need to be involved in a much bigger way and actually should fund the R&D to make it a success.

It seems they want to take the easy way out and just get the latest from outside, even if it is more expensive and doesn't help build domestic capabilities. Corruption could be another reason for this preference.
 
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