China aims to capture Arunachal Pradesh/Southern Tibet in next 10-15 years

[magra]

Okya, let South Tibet hold a referendum and let the South Tibetans decide India&independent&China by themselves. Let the P5 of UN supervise the voting. We can recognize the result of the vote.

dude. People in those regions have repeatedly and peacefully participated in Indian electoral processes since Indian independence. You can conduct any survey you want, not even 10% of that region wants to independence or merger with China.

Referendum is a strong word not to be taken lightly. Why should India allow referendum on Indian soil just because China claims it?
Will China allow referendum in Tibet, Xinjiang, Taiwan etc ?

You can clearly see the people's will in Arunachal and Ladakh and you do not need a referendum to know where people want to be.

 

[prashantazazel]

We can play the waiting game for the coming few decades. After that, we would be too big and powerful for any nation to take head on.

 

[magra]

We can play the waiting game for the coming few decades. After that, we would be too big and powerful for any nation to take head on.

We can play waiting game but it is a needless cost to both India and China for a meaningless and small dispute. It is beneficial for both nations to settle the dispute now and divert resources elsewhere.

 

[MH.Yang]

India does not care much what foundation or principle China follows unless it harms Indian territory.
Specifically focusing on Arunachal Pradesh and Ladakh - you admit that people in these regions are not Han, these people do not support China. Then why cannot China simply acknowledge this fact and agree to convert present realities with India into actual borders. Why does it insist on stretching this issue for decades?


India was not an independent nation at the conclusion of WW2 (1945), so I am not sure how any declaration / proclamation which China had with US / Russia / UK / France binds India to it.
Subhash Chandra Bose was an Indian freedom fighter against British rule in India. For that purpose, he was willing to strike deals with any opposing force - be it Russians, Germans, Japanese etc. That does not mean he agreed with their ideologies or claims.

The UN was established on the basis of the five WW2-victorious coutry.
Of course, I know that India was not independent at that time. But you can read articles 53, 77 and 107 of the <United Nations Charter>. If you deny the agreement and justice of the Anti fascist Alliance, you have no right to join the UN.
It doesn't matter if India doesn't accept these treaties. Please withdraw from the United Nations.

 

[magra]

The UN was established on the basis of the five WW2-victorious coutry.
Of course, I know that India was not independent at that time. But you can read articles 53, 77 and 107 of the <United Nations Charter>. If you deny the agreement and justice of the Anti fascist Alliance, you have no right to join the UN.
It doesn't matter if India doesn't accept these treaties. Please withdraw from the United Nations.

You are selectively responding to me. What is your response on the first half of what I wrote.

 

[MH.Yang]

You are selectively responding to me. What is your response on the first half of what I wrote.

The choice of the people should not be decided unilaterally by India. It is China's historical territory and China has the right to question it.

Moreover, there are a large number of separatist organizations in Northeast India. Your words have no credibility.

 

[magra]

The UN was established on the basis of the five WW2-victorious coutry.
Of course, I know that India was not independent at that time. But you can read articles 53, 77 and 107 of the <United Nations Charter>. If you deny the agreement and justice of the Anti fascist Alliance, you have no right to join the UN.
It doesn't matter if India doesn't accept these treaties. Please withdraw from the United Nations.

UN is a toothless body which is kicked over by any power. US does not consult it before invading any country. China does not agree with UN over South China Sea disputes.
UN is anyway a 2 class system with an out-dated policy of giving extra powers to victors of WW2 (permanant position and veto power).
Imagine a mid-level nation like UK / France getting it but nations like Germany , Japan and India kept out.

UN needs a reform where no nations get permanent position or veto power.

The choice of the people should not be decided unilaterally by India. It is China's historical territory and China has the right to question it.

Hmm.. By same logic then, Tibet is also India's historical territory as it has India's cultural and religious site - Kailash Mansarover.

 

[MH.Yang]

UN is a toothless body which is kicked over by any power. US does not consult it before invading any country. China does not agree with UN over South China Sea disputes.
UN is anyway a 2 class system with an out-dated policy of giving extra powers to victors of WW2 (permanant position and veto power).
Imagine a mid-level nation like UK / France getting it but nations like Germany , Japan and India kept out.

UN needs a reform where no nations get permanent position or veto power.

Hmm.. By same logic then, Tibet is also India's historical territory as it has India's cultural and religious site - Kailash Mansarover.

Perhaps India can organize a new United Nations itself. You can also choose Hitler, Hideki Tojo, Mussolini and Chandra Bowes as the founders of this organization.

 

[serenity]

These are all Indian writers writing for Indian publications and heavily Indian focused international ones.

 

[magra]

Perhaps India can organize a new United Nations itself. You can also choose Hitler, Hideki Tojo, Mussolini and Chandler baus as the founders of this organization.

Who is Chandler baus ? Are you being lazy or needlessly trying to provoke by misspelling a respected Indian freedom fighter?

 

[The Maverick]

why wait 10 years
India is weak today according to pak members and China is super power.
what they waiting for
in 10.years time indian forex will be over trillion dollars and they will have more nukes more usa weapons

anyway before taking in India they best deal.with tiny Taiwan first which they have failed to do anything for 5 decades

if I was a pakistan I would be thinking we have them.gwader and gilgat already what they taking next

 

[IblinI]

why wait 10 years
India is weak today according to pak members and China is super power.
what they waiting for
in 10.years time indian forex will be over trillion dollars and they will have more nukes more usa weapons

anyway before taking in India they best deal.with tiny Taiwan first which they have failed to do anything for 5 decades

if I was a pakistan I would be thinking we have them.gwader and gilgat already what they taking next

You needed a lesson in some basic politics before you started writing anything, US with unrivaled military power still thinks thousand times before going to war with some "shit hole" countries as per your love trump.

“He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight.”-Sun Tzu.

 

[magra]

why wait 10 years
India is weak today according to pak members and China is super power.
what they waiting for
in 10.years time indian forex will be over trillion dollars and they will have more nukes more usa weapons

anyway before taking in India they best deal.with tiny Taiwan first which they have failed to do anything for 5 decades

if I was a pakistan I would be thinking we have them.gwader and gilgat already what they taking next

Actually China may forcefully annex Taiwan in a decade or so.
Chinese power is increasing whereas US is slowly declining. Taiwan is not recognized as an independent nation in UN under Chinese pressure. Most nations parrot Chinese line of 'One-China' which includes Taiwan. Taiwan has no nukes to stop China and conventional power is insufficient.
If Russia can annex Crimea without lasting punishment, then China can annex Taiwan too.

 

[The Maverick]

You needed a lesson in some basic politics before you started writing anything, US with unrivaled military power still thinks thousand times before going to war with some "shit hole" countries as per your love trump.

“He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight.”-Sun Tzu.

all.talk bravado
China does talk no action ask.taiwanease they laugh at you

 

[SIPRA]

...... Chandler baus.....