China aims to capture Arunachal Pradesh/Southern Tibet in next 10-15 years

[Maula Jatt]

It is legal to start talking from the control areas before UK ruled India. Then talk can continue.
Both India and China do not agree the British rule in India.
Is was British created the problem to make the two country hostile for ever. Hundreds of years ago, there was no border problem. People can freely go to another country. So one of the solution is find out the border 300 years ago and keep that as the border
China has no interest in Indian territory and will never want to drink Indus water.

Bro I know you wanted to shit talk Indians with this one (or I hope so) but we Pakistanis call Indus home, there's barely any part of indus river system in India, vast majority of it is in Pakistan - next time use ganga or something

We are the inheriters of the mighty Indus, so as a brotherly country I insist please drink from the Indus as a gesture of peace and friendship between the two countries

Shit on ganga etc all you want...

 

[chinasun]

Bro I know you wanted to shit talk Indians with this one (or I hope so) but we Pakistanis call Indus home, there's barely any part of indus river system in India, vast majority of it is in Pakistan - next time use ganga or something

We are the inheriters of the mighty Indus, so as a brotherly country I insist please drink from the Indus as a gesture of peace and friendship between the two countries

I'm sorry. What I'm trying to say is that I don't want to drink Indian territory river water. I'm glad to drink Pakistani water.

 

[Titanium100]

It is legal to start talking from the control areas before UK ruled India. Then talk can continue.
Both India and China do not agree the British rule in India.
Is was British created the problem to make the two country hostile for ever. Hundreds of years ago, there was no border problem. People can freely go to another country. So one of the solution is find out the border 300 years ago and keep that as the border
China has no interest in Indian territory and will never want to drink Indus water.

You meant ganges river I reckon I wouldn't drink from that either.

But aside from that in order to understand the Indian calculus you have to look deeper within them and due to deep rooted lack of self-interest the Indian is a mercenary at heart hence making them effectively not world players nor regional but mercenary why do you think the Galwan event even occured it came along the trade wars to pile pressure on China. Due to lack of self-identity and being a continent rather than a country it serves only one purpose to be pushed towards China hence down the line China knows if something goes off due to some miscalculations the Indians will be at the forefront the one sacrificed for that cause at the hands of china. India is just a sacrificial lamb thrown at china

 

[IblinI]

For China at least for now Taiwan and South China sea is their #1

To be more exact, to deal with US pressure on every front is our prior for now, this includes it's lackey in Pacific region and South Asia.

 

[imadul]

So China gonna capture Arunachal Pradesh by 2040.

If China captures whole of India and make it a part of PRC by 2100, then the PRC will claim the whole of Pakistan on historical evidence that Pakistan was part of India in the past and that Pakistan was founded by Indians themselves!

So I think Pakistan should support India against China for it's own existence' sake because if it doesnt, then, well, the Chinese are coming.

Pakistan would take J&K, East Punjab, and Himachal Pradesh.
Rest of India will divide under the weight of Nazi-Hindutva and will be ruled by various regional indian entities like a millennium before.
History will take full circle.

 

[Leishangthem]

Not generally true, given there is / was lot of opposition to Chinese rule in Tibet / Xinjiang before Chinese flooded these regions with Han people to dilute local majority.

That is some weird logic to stake claim over some land. Either it belongs to you or it does not. Today, Arunachal Pradesh people do not support China, so you would wait. If in a few decades, they support China for some reason, you would invade.

By that same principle, if some Chinese border population starts supporting India, should it mean India has a license to invade?

 

[Rashid Mahmood]

China plans to squeeze the chickens neck and take over the seven sisters.

 

[lonelyman]

China conducting war drills in Tibet recently and building 30 airports and new highways along Tibet/Arunachal Pradesh. In addition to that they have built villages inside of Arunachal Pradesh and moving more of their population into the area. This will be one of the biggest geo-political challenges for India in the years to come. With the fall of the Ghani government in Afghanistan the region as a whole is becoming more hostile to India. The China-India border skirmish we saw in 2020-2021 was simply a test by generals sitting in Beijing, a warm up for what is to come.

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time to slap Indians face is near, like 1962

 

[SuperStar20]

China plans to squeeze the chickens neck and take over the seven sisters.

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Well China could not do any jackshit in Ladhak last year. They don't have capability/balls to take over chicken neck.

 

[Indos]

Nice region though

 

[magra]

This is how China deals with territorial issues:

1. The ruling legitimacy of PRC comes from the foundation and development of Sun Yat Sen's three people's principles, while Sun Yat Sen's ruling legitimacy comes from the abdication and grant of the emperor of the Qing Dynasty. Therefore, the PRC's territory came from the inheritance of the territory of the Qing Dynasty. Therefore, we will not declare ownership according to the map of the Tang Dynasty.

2. If a certain territory is the territory of the Qing Dynasty, the PRC has the right of inheritance. However, the PRC will not necessarily require the rule of this territory. We will operate according to its actual situation.

China needs to be clear on what constitutes their nation.

a. Are they a nation of Han people? If yes, then what is the justification of occupying non-Han regions of Tibet and Xinjiang.
b. Are they a nation of territories which was at one time under Qing dynastic rule ? If yes, then other nations will also pick and choose the furthest extent of their glorious empires. India might choose the Mauryan or Mughal dynasty when its territories extended upto Pakistan and beyond.
c. Or are they a nation of territories that they presently occupy? If yes, then it is best to settle the borders peacefully. Make de-jure (legal) what they hold de-facto today. Convert all lines into hard borders with neighbors peacefully. It will boost Chinese standing globally as a peaceful and international law-abiding global power.

As far as dispute with India is concerned, since several decades, you have seen that people of Arunachal Pradesh (your so called South Tibet) support India and not China. Similarly, on the western side, people of Ladakh support India. So why cannot you settle this border now rather than needlessly waiting for some support for China here ?

It is legal to start talking from the control areas before UK ruled India. Then talk can continue.
Both India and China do not agree the British rule in India.
Is was British created the problem to make the two country hostile for ever. Hundreds of years ago, there was no border problem. People can freely go to another country. So one of the solution is find out the border 300 years ago and keep that as the border.
China has no interest in Indian territory and never wants to drink Ganges water.

Himalayas form a natural barrier between India and China. 300 years ago, neither nations had the technology or willingness to scale such heights to claim any land.
It is only in the 20th century when focus went there and disputes started. I would say lets peacefully convert present realities into actual borders. Whatever you hold today is yours and whatever we hold today is ours. Otherwise this conflict will needlessly go on forever.

 

[MH.Yang]

China needs to be clear on what constitutes their nation.

a. Are they a nation of Han people? If yes, then what is the justification of occupying non-Han regions of Tibet and Xinjiang.
b. Are they a nation of territories which was at one time under Qing dynastic rule ? If yes, then other nations will also pick and choose the furthest extent of their glorious empires. India might choose the Mauryan or Mughal dynasty when its territories extended upto Pakistan and beyond.
c. Or are they a nation of territories that they presently occupy? If yes, then it is best to settle the borders peacefully. Make de-jure (legal) what they hold de-facto today. Convert all lines into hard borders with neighbors peacefully. It will boost Chinese standing globally as a peaceful and international law-abiding global power.

As far as dispute with India is concerned, since several decades, you have seen that people of Arunachal Pradesh (your so called South Tibet) support India and not China. Similarly, on the western side, people of Ladakh support India. So why cannot you settle this border now rather than needlessly waiting for some support for China here ?

Himalayas form a natural barrier between India and China. 300 years ago, neither nations had the technology or willingness to scale such heights to claim any land.
It is only in the 20th century when focus went there and disputes started. I would say lets peacefully convert present realities into actual borders. Whatever you hold today is yours and whatever we hold today is ours. Otherwise this conflict will needlessly go on forever.

1. I said so. The foundation of PRC's legal basis of rule is Sun Yat Sen's three people's principles. The three people's principles include all ethnic groups under the governance of the Qing Dynasty, including, of course, Tibetans.

2. Taiwan is the territory of the Qing Dynasty, and Tibet and Xinjiang are also the territory of the Qing Dynasty.

3. China has the right to restore the territory of the Qing Dynasty, China was endorsed by <Cairo Declaration> and <Potsdam Proclamation> during WW2. All the victors of WW2 signed the treaty. To deny these two treaties is to deny the justice and legitimacy of the Anti fascist Alliance in WW2. Of course, I remember Indians are more supportive of Chandra Bowes. Maybe you are members of the Nazi group.

 

[magra]

1. I said so. The foundation of PRC's legal basis of rule is Sun Yat Sen's three people's principles. The three people's principles include all ethnic groups under the governance of the Qing Dynasty, including, of course, Tibetans.

2. Taiwan is the territory of the Qing Dynasty, and Tibet and Xinjiang are also the territory of the Qing Dynasty.

India does not care much what foundation or principle China follows unless it harms Indian territory.
Specifically focusing on Arunachal Pradesh and Ladakh - you admit that people in these regions are not Han, these people do not support China. Then why cannot China simply acknowledge this fact and agree to convert present realities with India into actual borders. Why does it insist on stretching this issue for decades?

3. China has the right to restore the territory of the Qing Dynasty, which was endorsed by <Cairo Declaration> and <Potsdam Proclamation> during WW2. All the victors of WW2 signed the treaty. To deny these two treaties is to deny the justice and legitimacy of the Anti fascist Alliance in WW2. Of course, I remember Indians are more supportive of Chandra Bowes. Maybe you are members of the Nazi group.

India was not an independent nation at the conclusion of WW2 (1945), so I am not sure how any declaration / proclamation which China had with US / Russia / UK / France binds India to it.
Subhash Chandra Bose was an Indian freedom fighter against British rule in India. For that purpose, he was willing to strike deals with any opposing force - be it Russians, Germans, Japanese etc. That does not mean he agreed with their ideologies or claims.

 

[MH.Yang]

China needs to be clear on what constitutes their nation.

a. Are they a nation of Han people? If yes, then what is the justification of occupying non-Han regions of Tibet and Xinjiang.
b. Are they a nation of territories which was at one time under Qing dynastic rule ? If yes, then other nations will also pick and choose the furthest extent of their glorious empires. India might choose the Mauryan or Mughal dynasty when its territories extended upto Pakistan and beyond.
c. Or are they a nation of territories that they presently occupy? If yes, then it is best to settle the borders peacefully. Make de-jure (legal) what they hold de-facto today. Convert all lines into hard borders with neighbors peacefully. It will boost Chinese standing globally as a peaceful and international law-abiding global power.

As far as dispute with India is concerned, since several decades, you have seen that people of Arunachal Pradesh (your so called South Tibet) support India and not China. Similarly, on the western side, people of Ladakh support India. So why cannot you settle this border now rather than needlessly waiting for some support for China here ?

Himalayas form a natural barrier between India and China. 300 years ago, neither nations had the technology or willingness to scale such heights to claim any land.
It is only in the 20th century when focus went there and disputes started. I would say lets peacefully convert present realities into actual borders. Whatever you hold today is yours and whatever we hold today is ours. Otherwise this conflict will needlessly go on forever.

Okya, let South Tibet hold a referendum and let the South Tibetans decide India&independent&China by themselves. Let the P5 of UN supervise the voting. We can recognize the result of the vote.

 

[SIPRA]

1. I said so. The foundation of PRC's legal basis of rule is Sun Yat Sen's three people's principles. The three people's principles include all ethnic groups under the governance of the Qing Dynasty, including, of course, Tibetans.

2. Taiwan is the territory of the Qing Dynasty, and Tibet and Xinjiang are also the territory of the Qing Dynasty.

3. China has the right to restore the territory of the Qing Dynasty, China was endorsed by <Cairo Declaration> and <Potsdam Proclamation> during WW2. All the victors of WW2 signed the treaty. To deny these two treaties is to deny the justice and legitimacy of the Anti fascist Alliance in WW2. Of course, I remember Indians are more supportive of Chandra Bowes. Maybe you are members of the Nazi group.

Would you kindly enlighten me that what, in the view of Chinese state, shall comprise a proper settlement of boundary dispute between China and India, particularly with regard to the McMohan Line and Aksai Chin?