Chill Bangladesh Thread

[Shorisrip]

Human medicine is completely in German and not free at all.

There are other masters programs in English.


Bachelors are in German at all public universities.

Non medicine courses are free at all public universities aside from the ones in the state of Baden Württemberg where as per state legislation the can charge from students from outside the Europe a maximum of €1500 per semester.

Source: I study there.

Lucky, my loans are already well over 33K, and I still have a capstone year left, though I study engineering.

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

Lucky, my loans are already well over 33K, and I still have a capstone year left, though I study engineering.

It's not all rainbows & sunshine here, as I am a bachelor's student and my school leaving certificate (obtained from an Indian school) wasn't equivalent to the 13 years of schooling in Germany, I had to spend one year doing a prep-course in a school like setting, learning things I already knew... BORING.

Then I came to Kuwait in early 2020 to visit family and the rest is history, covid did me sideways, no finesse.


That said, I have no debt, I work freelance and pay for my expenses, although, rent is sooo expensive here unless you want to live in a hostel.

 

[Bilal9]

German isn't all that difficult to be honest, although, If you're a person who like me thinks in English then to get anywhere with the language you'll have to change the way you think..


It's not German which is difficult or strange, it's that English as a language is so simplified, we are spoilt.

German is a very demanding and exact language. But grammar is rather simple. All you do is keep adding many words to make a specialized word. Which is not the same way in English, which borrows many words from Latin and French.

I knew quite a few Bengali PhD students who learned spoken German in less than a year and became fluent in around three years, but of course these are the brightest people we have.

Now - another qualifier is that spoken German in Germany today is not "High German", but "Low German" (what we call in Bangladesh Shadhu Bhasha, as opposed to cholito Bhasha).

High German is another magnitude more difficult to learn, which all German technical manuals and older manuscripts are written in.

 

[Shorisrip]

German is a very demanding and exact language. But grammar is rather simple. All you do is keep adding many words to make a specialized word. Which is not the same way in English, which borrows many words from Latin and French.

I knew quite a few Bengali PhD students who learned spoken German in less than a year and became fluent in around three years, but of course these are the brightest people we have.

Now - another qualifier is that spoken German in Germany today is not "High German", but "Low German" (what we call in Bangladesh Shadhu Bhasha, as opposed to cholito Bhasha).

High German is another magnitude more difficult to learn, which all German technical manuals and older manuscripts are written in.

Standard German is based on High German (Hochdeutsch) dialects AFAIK, which is based in Alpine Germany (i.e. Central-South Germany). Low German are the dialects of the lowland regions bordering the North and Baltic Seas. Germans are originally a cluster of people groups and languages (i.e. all speakers of West Germanic language group) who came to have a singular identity only after the unification in the 19th century. All different West Germanic ethnic groups (Bavarians, Swabians, Saxons, Prussians etc) have a 'German' volk identity, with the exception of the Dutch. This is somewhat similar to the Bengali ethnic groups (all speakers of the Bengali-Assamese language group, with the exception of Goalpariya and Kamrupi speakers AKA Assamese people), which originally contained or still contains a lot of sub-identities, including people speaking unintelligible languages (Chatgaiya, Syloti etc) identifying under the same label.

 

[Michael Corleone]

They got english languge Unis in germany ?
i heard they have tuition free courses for EU students.

German. Not bad considering they would really focus on getting you to speak their language. As for the study itself I reckon it would have been a mix of English and German. Don’t know

Human medicine is completely in German and not free at all.

There are other masters programs in English.


Bachelors are in German at all public universities.

Non medicine courses are free at all public universities aside from the ones in the state of Baden Württemberg where as per state legislation the can charge from students from outside the Europe a maximum of €1500 per semester.

Source: I study there.

You didn’t get expelled due to corona?

German is a very demanding and exact language. But grammar is rather simple. All you do is keep adding many words to make a specialized word. Which is not the same way in English, which borrows many words from Latin and French.

I knew quite a few Bengali PhD students who learned spoken German in less than a year and became fluent in around three years, but of course these are the brightest people we have.

Now - another qualifier is that spoken German in Germany today is not "High German", but "Low German" (what we call in Bangladesh Shadhu Bhasha, as opposed to cholito Bhasha).

High German is another magnitude more difficult to learn, which all German technical manuals and older manuscripts are written in.

I studied German for a month in preparation to convincing my parents. Grammar much much easier than Russian. Russian language has unnecessary vocabulary and then lacks words to describe what’s necessary lol.
fridge has a word, so does fan and battery but then they don’t have a word to describe emotion

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

German. Not bad considering they would really focus on getting you to speak their language. As for the study itself I reckon it would have been a mix of English and German. Don’t know

You didn’t get expelled due to corona?

I studied German for a month in preparation to convincing my parents. Grammar much much easier than Russian. Russian language has unnecessary vocabulary and then lacks words to describe what’s necessary lol.
fridge has a word, so does fan and battery but then they don’t have a word to describe emotion

Nope, I'm not expelled or anything, I opted out of online classes and I will resume my semester when I get back in person.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Nope, I'm not expelled or anything, I opted out of online classes and I will resume my semester when I get back in person.

My scummy Soviet university making doctors with google meet lmao

 

[Bilal9]

people speaking unintelligible languages (Chatgaiya, Syloti etc)

Well Chatgao was under Mog empire (Arakanese king?) for a while so some of their language got adopted and mixed in with Pali for Chatgaiya language. But I'm no expert. Alaol's prose/poetry has to be studied.

Syloti has Kamrup/Kamakhya language elements as far as I know and some elements of Manipuri too (Hason Raja poetry etc. is a much later development)

Russian language has unnecessary vocabulary and then lacks words to describe what’s necessary lol.
fridge has a word, so does fan and battery but then they don’t have a word to describe emotion

Russians are not really fabulously emotional people I have seen (esp. guys) but I could be wrong. It may be a cultural thing (not showing emotion).

Read quite a bit of Maxim Gorky, Pushkin and Karl Marx's three volume's when I was younger (some in Bangla which you could get in Dhaka quite easily). The first two had quite a bit of "observational emotion" in them.

 

[F-6 enthusiast]

Karl Marx's three

Marx was german , but then again they have different way of showing emotions

 

[Michael Corleone]

Well Chatgao was under Mog empire (Arakanese king?) for a while so some of their language got adopted and mixed in with Pali for Chatgaiya language. But I'm no expert. Alaol's prose/poetry has to be studied.

Syloti has Kamrup/Kamakhya language elements as far as I know and some elements of Manipuri too (Hason Raja poetry etc. is a much later development)



Russians are not really fabulously emotional people I have seen (esp. guys) but I could be wrong. It may be a cultural thing (not showing emotion).

Read quite a bit of Maxim Gorky, Pushkin and Karl Marx's three volume's when I was younger (some in Bangla which you could get in Dhaka quite easily). The first two had quite a bit of "observational emotion" in them.

Cultural definitely.
whays observational emotion?

 

[Bilal9]

Cultural definitely.
whays observational emotion?

Well Observational Emotion belongs to the overall ambit of Observational Learning in Psychology, which posits that the combined forces of the "behavior we witness and the culture we grow up in" are responsible for the "behaviors that we ultimately learn and manifest".

If you read the "Mother Trilogy" by Maxim Gorky ("Mother". "My Childhood" etc.) - you will see tons of this example and behavior he exhibits. The way he describes the proletariat in Russia at that time in his words is exceptionally vivid.

Kind of like the literary equivalent of "8K ultra ultra high def" vision and imagery.

That is why they named him a "socialist realist".

Here's a description,

Mother (novel) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And here is the novel itself, (may be blocked in Ukraine, not sure - it is a Marxist website).

Mother

www.marxists.org

@jamahir bhai you may have read these too - I figure?

 

[jamahir]

@jamahir bhai you may have read these too - I figure?

Unfortunately no, bhai. The only Russian literature I have imbibed is 'A hero of our time' which was read out as a radio drama on BBC World Service when I used to listen to that station about ten years ago.

 

[Bilal9]

Unfortunately no, bhai. The only Russian literature I have imbibed is 'A hero of our time' which was read out as a radio drama on BBC World Service when I used to listen to that station about ten years ago.

Yeah when one talks about Maxim Gorky, his title of "socialist realist" is so true. He described the proletariat in Russia so vividly, it left a lasting impression in my mind about the futility of the human condition...

I guess all Bangladeshis have more or less a left-leaning streak because we have so many poor people in our country. Which also explains why so many upper middle class folks go into NGO movements and civil society movements.

 

[jamahir]

I guess all Bangladeshis have more or less a left-leaning streak because we have so many poor people in our country. Which also explains why so many upper middle class folks go into NGO movements and civil society movements.

That is good and I suppose that is why Bangladesh is ahead of India ( and Pakistan too ? ) in HDI.

In my country though there are also many poor people, unfortunately the middle class seems to not look at the social misery that surrounds it. Empathy is not something that seems to be present in the Indian middle class.

 

[The Ronin]

Ekta kotha bolo tumi at @Bilal9 bhai jhogra shuru korla keno?
Ami ban khaya Boshe chilam tokhon @DalalErMaNodi amake dm e bolse
Jhogra koiro na, rozar mash bhai bhai gola lago

কি ব্যাপার @DalalErMaNodi তলে তলে পাশের বাসার আন্টির মত "চুপি চুপি বল কেউ জেনে যাবে" টাইপ গুজুর-গুজুর- ফুসুর-ফুসুর?

যাইহোক ঐ থ্রেডে আর এসব নিয়ে কথা বলে থ্রেড ডিরেইল করলাম না।

ঝগড়া শুরু করসে সে নিজেই এই #388,#21,#42 থ্রেডগুলাতে উল্টাপাল্টা বইলা। আরও কিছু থ্রেডে দেখছিলাম কিন্তু এখন মনে নাই। ঐ তিন থ্রেডের আগে-পিছে থেকেই শুরু। তর্কে না পাইড়া গালাগালি শুরু করছে। তো সে যদি করতে পারে তাইলে আমি করলে এই লোকের খারাপ লাগে কেন? সে যতগুলা ট্যাগ মারছে আমি তো মনে হয় তার সমানও ফেরত দেই নাই তারে। তার বলা কথাই তারে শোনাইলে মড আইসা আমারে ওয়ার্নিং দেয়।

এখন আবার রোজার দোহাই দিয়ে বলে, "ক্ষেমা দেও"। আমি "ক্ষেমা" দিব কি না দিব সেইটা আমার সিদ্ধান্ত। যে শুরু করসে তার এইটা বলার অধিকার নাই। সে যেই পরিমান কথা শোনাবে, তারেও ততটুকু শুনায়া দিব। আমারে গালি মারাটা সমস্যা না, সমস্যা হইল এই লোকের বাকি কথাগুলা। বিশেষ কইরা এর "কিচ্ছু করি নাই, আমি নির্দোষ" ভাবটা দেইখা আমার গা জ্বইলা যাইতাছে। যাইহোক আমার যা বলার তা আমি তর্কেই বইলা দিছি। আবার বলার দরকার নাই, যদিও আর কিছু এক্সট্রা বলার ছিল। মানুষ কথা শোনানোর বেলায় ওস্তাদ কিন্তু "৫০ পেজের" শোনার বেলায় নাই।

@Bilal9 bhai apnakeo ekta koraya dei? Bhabhi ke razi Koran

পাত্রী তো পছন্দ করাই আছে। ছেলে/মেয়ের নিজের পছন্দ। আমার তো মনে হইল এরা অলরেডি হানিমুন পিরিয়ডে আছে।

Thak bhai amakey Razakar nam dewa hoisey, sheta nia apatoto khushi.

Tobey Roja- Ramzan er diney kharap ar negative kotha na bolai bhalo.

Post ar comments komaia dibo apnara kisu money na korley. Roja shongjomer mash.

Shobar jonno du'a roilo, emonki jara amakey gali disey tader jonno-o.

Allah shobar mongol ebong hedayet korun - Ameen.

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