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CHIEF JUSTICE AND JUDGES TRYING TO MAKE THEIR LEGACY AFTER 5 YEAR LOOTING

I am not a law expert, but what i have asked from some lawyers and also heard it from different talk shows (serious analysts), following are the points, which should be considered while discussions.

1. This particular case in which Musharraf bail was cancelled is about Judges house arrest, its not that famous article 6 treason case.
2. This is a bailable offense, and any accuse who himself appear before the court has the right of bail. In other words, its kind of mandatory for court to grant bail.
3. Only those lawyers can take part in court proceedings, who are formally the part of either defense council or the lawyers of the party, who have filed the plea.
4. All over the world in judicial proceedings, neutrality of judges is utmost important. If in anyway, the hearing judge or judges are a party themselves, they transfer the case to neutral judges.
5. In no way, the judge should ever be sound or feel like taking side with any of the contesting party. Therefore judges usually never gave any remarks about any party what so ever. Its their final decision based on facts, proofs in the light of law, which speaks in the end.
6. FIR is needed to be registered by the suffered party against accused, which forms the base of the trial.
7. Judges themselves cannot include clauses during the course of the trial.

Now, keeping above points in mind, we can conclude very easy, that justice is not being properly served in the case of Musharraf.

* In this case, there is no FIR against Musharraf.
* Out of 60 Judges, who were allegedly arrested after 2007 emergency, none have filed a case or complaint against Musharraf.
* Obviously under the law, no 3rd party other then the actual sufferers can file a plea against the accused.
* The judge who heard the case was the Rawalpindi Bar president in 2007, he was heading lawyers movement against Musharraf. So, going by the principle of neutrality, he is not neutral and hence should not have hear the case in first place.
* During the hearings, Judge made specific remarks against Musharraf, hence take side with the plaintiff, which made him biased towards the defendant. No law of the world allows this that judge himself becomes a party, hence deny the defendant "the right of fair trial".
* During the court proceedings, as the judge clearly knew that he can not order Musharraf arrest in current scenario, he conveniently himself added "anti terrorism clauses" in the case, which is a non-bailable offense.
* It is customary for the courts all around the world to ensure an environment, where both plaintiff and accused feel secure, and no external pressure what so ever effects or pressurized the proceeding of the court. In this case as happened in past few days many times, a large number of lawyers from Islamabad / Rawalpindi bar gathered outside and within court room. They were chanting slogans against Musharraf, and many times tried to personally assaulted him. This is something against the honor of the court. If the accused and his defense council feel insecure even within court room, how can the justice be served.
The judge did nothing in this regard, instead he encourage the violent lawyers by allowing them to speak on the behalf of plaintiff. Those lawyers who were not part of proceedings actually spoke against accused, judge not only allowed them but also appreciate them. How on earth, such trend is being followed in Pakistani judiciary?
Example after example are coming of Judge gardi and Wukla gardi. Arslan Iftikhar case, TuQ case, Memo-gate and now Musharraf case. Judges are setting some dark examples, which will hurt Pakistan very badly in the course of the history. This is a country where persons like Sufi Mohammad and Maulana Abdul Aziz are set free by the courts. Shah Zain Bugti caught with truck loads of illegal weapons is set free. Traitors, who have vowed to take up arms against Pakistan aree given protocol in the name of justice, and former COAS and President is denied even a fair trial, this is Pakistan and sadly yes, i am its citizen.

PS 1: In Pakistani law, the president has immunity against any lawsuits, it includes all those orders which he passed during his tenure as President of Pakistan.
PS 2: Judges were in their houses, no body ever arrested them. There is not an order or witness produced by the plaintiff in this regard.


Great sum up mate, this is exactly what I had in mind when I was reading the article about his arrest. Nothing that he did deserved a non bailable warrant.
 
the haj corruption case minister for Religious Affairs Hamid Saeed was not send to jail but a guest house was declared sub jail

in punjab bank corruption scandal son of pervez elahi,Monis Elahi was also not send to jail but guest house was declared sub jail

and the terrorist Shahzain Bhugti who was carrying huge ammo in in his convoy was not send to jail but was held in guest house by direction of interior minister Rehman Malik
 
ARTICLE 6 ON MUSHARAF(WHICH I SUPPORT) BUT HEARING AFTER HEARING FOR 5 YEARS OF CORRUPTION CASES AND NO ONE GOT PUNISHED IN ANY CASE




NO TERRORIST GOT HANGED IN 10 YEARS OF JUDGES AND CHIEF JUSTICE IFTHIKAR CHAUDARY

NO CORRUPT POLITICIAN WENT BEHIND BARS

NO IMPLEMENTATION OF NRO CASE

NO IMPLEMENTATION OF ASGHAR KAHN CASE AGAINST NAWAZ SHARIF AND COMPANY

ALL ARRESTED TERRORIST EITHER BALED OR RELEASED UNDER GUISE OF LAPATA AFRAD(MISSING PERSONS)

NO ACTION AGAINST BARAHIMDAG BUGTI BALUCHISTAN LIBRATION ARMY AND BALUCHISTAN LIBERATION FRONT

80 BILLION RS FRAUD CHAIRMAN OGRA TAUQEER SADIQ FREE IN UAE NOT BROUGHT BACK HOME

THEY LET TRAITOR HUSSAIN HAQQANI GOTO AMERICA NO ACTION ON MEMO CASE


NO ACTION ON RAJA RENTAL

ALL CANDIDATES PASSED OUT OF 62,63 NO LOAN DEFAULTER,BILL NON PAYMENT AND BILLIONS RS LOAN WRITE OFF CAUGHT

NO IRSALAN IFTIKHAR CASE HEARING


THIS IS AZAD ADLYIA​

You are mixing things, mate!

NO TERRORIST GOT HANGED IN 10 YEARS OF JUDGES AND CHIEF JUSTICE IFTHIKAR CHAUDARY

Justice Choudhry is not a judge of anti terrorist court that deals with terrorism. Why lower judiciary got failed is because of poor laws and faulty prosecution, investigation agencies build their case very poorly, lack of evidence ultimately favors the acquittal of criminals.

NO CORRUPT POLITICIAN WENT BEHIND BARS

Quite valid, I second you on this! There's a saying "Rishwat laitay pakray gai aur rishwat day ker chhot gai" Wrong again here is at the level of investigations; NAB, FIA, Police every institution works under the influence of governments/politicians & of course they would stand by their partners in crime in any way. We all need to understand a fact that courts do not investigate, best courts can do is to force authorities to investigate and monitor the procedures but again there's a big question mark on the bonafides of the investigators.

NO IMPLEMENTATION OF ASGHAR KAHN CASE AGAINST NAWAZ SHARIF AND COMPANY

Apex court actually had already passed its verdict on this, had directed the government to investigate into the matter thoroughly. But the government instead had made it clear that it had no intention to repeat the politics of 90s, now that means NO INVESTIGATION. However I do believe that apex court if wanted could have forced the government but it avoided perhaps because of its affection for NS.

NO IMPLEMENTATION OF NRO CASE

Well it did! Recall one PM was sent home and ultimately government had to write a letter to Swiss authorities. Swiss authorities refused to reopen the cases, now blaming SC makes no sense.

]ALL ARRESTED TERRORIST EITHER BALED OR RELEASED UNDER GUISE OF LAPATA AFRAD(MISSING PERSONS)

That's because there was no evidence against them. Had agencies gathered a few sufficient for their conviction they would have been LAPATA AFRAAD, they would have been facing charges against them. Don't expect conviction in any court anywhere the entire world without valid evidences; exception if there's a law that convicts on the basis of collective conscience of a society.

NO ACTION AGAINST BARAHIMDAG BUGTI BALUCHISTAN LIBRATION ARMY AND BALUCHISTAN LIBERATION FRONT

BLA people are absconding. Brahimdad's acquittal is beyond me also, heavy arms were recovered at the time of his arrest. ATC again was the court which dealt him.

80 BILLION RS FRAUD CHAIRMAN OGRA TAUQEER SADIQ FREE IN UAE NOT BROUGHT BACK HOME

Apex court, frankly speaking, has left no stone unturned to bring him back. His case is still in the court, just yesterday it was revealed that Rehman Malik and Jahangeer Badr helped him escape. Bringing back the absconder is the responsibility of government, diplomatic channels are under the control of government and not the courts.

THEY LET TRAITOR HUSSAIN HAQQANI GOTO AMERICA NO ACTION ON MEMO CASE

He was only given permission to go abroad, court never acquitted him, he's yet to be convicted of treason. Court perhaps shouldn't have allowed him to travel abroad.

NO ACTION ON RAJA RENTAL

What sorta action are you expecting? Don't you remember court a couple of month ago ordered NAB to proceed against him and his company and file a reference against them. It's the NAB that is not willing because of its head who has affiliation with PPP.
ALL CANDIDATES PASSED OUT OF 62,63 NO LOAN DEFAULTER,BILL NON PAYMENT AND BILLIONS RS LOAN WRITE OFF CAUGHT

Unfortunately! Law I believe must be made more rigorous, ifs and buts have to be eliminated. Banks should be asked to take a strict stance; stay order and other legal leniency must be withdrawn in this particular regard. BTW, under law, it's the ECP that makes election policy.

NO IRSALAN IFTIKHAR CASE HEARING

Prolly bias!
 
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Apex court, frankly speaking, has left no stone unturned to bring him back. His case is still in the court, just yesterday it was revealed that Rehman Malik and Jahangeer Badr helped him escape. Bringing back the absconder is the responsibility of government, diplomatic channels are under the control of government and not the courts.

Sir g see the following video


HOW NAB,FIA AND FOREIGN MINISTRY COLLABORATED TO NOT BRING EX CHAIRMAN OGRA TAUQEER SADIQ(CLOSE RELATIVE OF GAHANGEER BADAR PPP) FROM UAE TO PAKISTAN


did the judges not had the power to arrest FIA,NAB and FOREIGN MINISTRY official who did not gave supreme court orders to uae officials and did not provide evidence in uae courts

This is all time waste and clever shenanigans by Adliya
they are judges not bebas awam
this is smoke screen hearings and nothing else

mana hum bewakof hayn mugar itnay b nae
 
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MUSHARRAF SHOULD BE HANGED NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT

BUT

JUDGES SHOULD DO IT FOR JUSTICE

NOT

FOR THEIR LEGACY BEFORE RETIRING

AS

THEY LET PPP AND PMLN GOVERN FOR 5 YEARS AND NO CORRUPT POLITICIAN WENT BEHIND BARS ALL ARE ON BAIL OR HEARING AFTER HEARINGS


LAL MUSJID CASE,CONSTITUTION CASE etc
 
Sir g see the following video


HOW NAB,FIA AND FOREIGN MINISTRY COLLABORATED TO NOT BRING EX CHAIRMAN OGRA TAUQEER SADIQ(CLOSE RELATIVE OF GAHANGEER BADAR PPP) FROM UAE TO PAKISTAN


did the judges not had the power to arrest FIA,NAB and FOREIGN MINISTRY official who did not gave supreme court orders to uae officials and did not provide evidence in uae courts

This is all time waste and clever shenanigans by Adliya
they are judges not bebas awam
this is smoke screen hearings and nothing else

mana hum bewakof hayn mugar itnay b nae

Mate look, Pakistan has no extradition treaty with UAE so both the countries are not into any legal understanding. Please consider another fact that absconder Sadiq has also been convicted for violating UAE laws & for that he's in prison (not sure of his release), MoFA simply can't ask for his possession unless he completes his punishment. Not everything shown in media is truth, technically there are numbers of legal aspects to be dealt with. MoFA had already cancelled absconder's passport and now are banking on his deportation, diplomatic channels are also open but I don't know to what extent they are being utilized. However, considering corruption a trait of every ministry, deceiving tactics also can't be ruled out.

SC exercising its discretionary powers took suo motto action if it had some bad intentions it wouldn't have exercised its powers in first place. It was the responsibility of the government to uncover the scam. There exists no law that enables judges to dismiss officials on the basis of media reports, SC does have powers but not as much as of a monarch.
 
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Mate look, Pakistan has no extradition treaty with UAE so both the countries are not into any legal understanding. Please consider another fact that absconder Sadiq has also been convicted for violating UAE laws & for that he's in prison (not sure of his release), MoFA simply can't ask for his possession unless he completes his punishment. Not everything shown in media is truth, technically there are numbers of legal aspects to be dealt with. MoFA had already cancelled absconder's passport and now are banking on his deportation, diplomatic channels are also open but I don't know to what extent they are being utilized. However, considering corruption a trait of every ministry, deceiving tactics also can't be ruled out.

SC exercising its discretionary powers took suo motto action if it had some bad intentions it wouldn't have exercised its powers in first place. It was the responsibility of the government to uncover the scam. There exists no law that enables judges to dismiss officials on the basis of media reports, SC does have powers but not as much as of a monarch.

supreme court takes suo motto for public consumption and nothing else

The uae courts asked Pakistans concerning officials who ever it was to provide evidence so that extradition can be made possible but FIA,CID and Foregin ministry simply did not work with each other and on three separate hearings 15 days apart by uae courts didn't provide any evidence against Tuqeer Sadiq

what else is saving a criminal

supreme court had jurisdiction on FIA,CIA and foreign ministry here in Pakistan they reported this situation here so why chief justice did not send officials to jail


simply time waste hearing nothing else they need 50 more years with this pace to prove someone guilty at that point

NAWAZ FAMILY WILL BE LIKE BUSH EMPIRE IN PAKISTAN AND ZARDARI FAMILY WILL BE LIKE CLINTON EMPIRE IN PAKISTAN
 
MEANWHILE IN SECRET NAWAZ LABS LOOK PEOPLE WHAT NAWAZ SHARIF IS SAYING:


If Musharraf would've been poor, he would've been behind bars: Nawaz

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There is a huge disparity in the implementation of laws on poor and the ruling elite in Pakistan, said Pakistan Muslim League Nawaz chief Nawaz Sharif while expressing his views regarding the recent Musharraf saga on Friday.

The PML-N chief was addressing the media during his visit to Balochistan. Nawaz had gone to give his condolences to president of the PML-N Balochistan chapter Sardar Sanaullah Zehri who recently lost his son, brother and nephew in an attack on their convoy on their way back from an election campaign.

“If any common man would have done what Musharraf did, then he would’ve surely been behind bars right now,” said Nawaz in reference to Musharraf’s escape and then house arrest. “Why was he escorted home safely by Islamabad police? Because he was an army chief earlier?”

“This is clearly contempt of court on police’s behalf,” he called out to the judiciary, asking them to take action against the authorities who allowed the ex-president to escape from court premises.(He forgot to mention Shakeel Awan pml n mna who escaped from police custody with help of pml n workers attacking on police)

“The whole world is looking at us and we need to prove to them that we are law abiding citizens.”

Speaking on the security situation in Balochistan, Nawaz said that the polls should be held as per schedule and delaying them will not cure the disease of terrorism.

“Sanaullah Zehri is a test case for police in Balochistan, they should learn from this and ensure security to people of Balochistan,” Nawaz said. “It is the responsibility of both the provincial and federal government to secure Balochistan.”


MR NAWAZ IF YOU WERE POOR YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN HANGED IN 1999 THANKS TO YOUR RICH SAUDI BUDDIES WHO SAVED YOU AND LET YOU BUILD HUDABIA PAPER MILL:hitwall::hitwall::rofl::rofl::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:
 
ON ONE SIDE IS INDIA
ON THE OTHER IS USA,NATO+NORTHERN ALLIANCE
IN THE MIDDLE POLITICIAN ARE LOOTING
JUDICIARY IS LETTING CORRUPT PEOPLE AND TERORIST GO FREE
AND TTP IS KILLINFG PEOPLE AND ARMY
ALL AGAINST ARMY AND ISI
Does India have to figure everywhere? :fie: What does India have to do with the topic you are discussing regarding your judges and their 'loot'??

I never knew some Pakistanis here are so paranoid about India that they drag them into internal politics and everything going on in Pakistan!

Jump out of it man and smell the coffee. Your problems are yours. India has nothing to do with the internal politics of your judges and their loot, unless they've invested it in IPL-6. :P
 
supreme court takes suo motto for public consumption and nothing else

The uae courts asked Pakistans concerning officials who ever it was to provide evidence so that extradition can be made possible but FIA,CID and Foregin ministry simply did not work with each other and on three separate hearings 15 days apart by uae courts didn't provide any evidence against Tuqeer Sadiq

what else is saving a criminal

supreme court had jurisdiction on FIA,CIA and foreign ministry here in Pakistan they reported this situation here so why chief justice did not send officials to jail


simply time waste hearing nothing else they need 50 more years with this pace to prove someone guilty at that point

NAWAZ FAMILY WILL BE LIKE BUSH EMPIRE IN PAKISTAN AND ZARDARI FAMILY WILL BE LIKE CLINTON EMPIRE IN PAKISTAN

Extradition without a treaty? You are quoting media reports which are not considered as evidence & above all what does SC has to do with the said devilry of MoFA and its subordinates? You are blaming individual X for the crime of individual Y. You skipped the point that I made earlier about removing an official from his post - show me single precedent of such a dismissal where mere speculations and media reports were made basis. You are one of the Pakistanis, including me, who want everything to be done at once no matter how it is done and what it takes. Brother take these reports to SC and ask for needful, under article pertaining fundamental rights of citizens you can file such a petition. Arbitration can also be approached, lets see how does it react to your modus operendi.

Aye, SC does take suo motto for public consumption and it does so to preserve its interests both political and financial! What a silly notion!
 
Extradition without a treaty?

Aye, SC does take suo motto for public consumption and it does so to preserve its interests both political and financial! What a silly notion!

PAKISTAN AND UAE HAS SIGNED EXTRADITION TREATY MIAN

UAE strikes prisoner-swap deal with Pakistan
UAE strikes prisoner-swap deal with Pakistan - The National

UAE, Pakistan, sign prisoner extradition treaty
UAE, Pakistan, sign prisoner extradition treaty | Pakistan News

UAE, Pakistan sign prisoner exchange treaty
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/crime/uae-pakistan-sign-prisoner-exchange-treaty-1.986995

here supreme court takes suo motto to linger the case to infinity and let corrupt rule not to implicate them so to keep public in check so that they don't boil up with anger on injustice and corruption and take to streets SIMPLE AS THAT
 
PAKISTAN AND UAE HAS SIGNED EXTRADITION TREATY MIAN

UAE strikes prisoner-swap deal with Pakistan
UAE strikes prisoner-swap deal with Pakistan - The National

UAE, Pakistan, sign prisoner extradition treaty
UAE, Pakistan, sign prisoner extradition treaty | Pakistan News

UAE, Pakistan sign prisoner exchange treaty
UAE, Pakistan sign prisoner exchange treaty | GulfNews.com

here supreme court takes suo motto to linger the case to infinity and let corrupt rule not to implicate them so to keep public in check so that they don't boil up with anger on injustice and corruption and take to streets SIMPLE AS THAT

I am quoting what NAB has maintained so far "no such treaty"
 
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