Chicano movement

[rcrmj]

see? when got humiliated, the only good thing left for him to do is to give out rating``lol what a spoiled angry kid
@MOD you shouldnt give that kid this option```at least half of Chinese members negative ratings are given them him

 

[Martian2]

That @conkhi troll is an alternative account of another Chinese member.

He is pretending to be a Vietnamese, flying two French flags. The word “con khi” (@conkhi = con khi) means “monkey” in Vietnamese, and as you know, a derogatory term often used by many Chinese members in the Far East section.

I’m surprised that some Chinese member had to resort to this low and shameful tactic...and Martian2 even engaged with that troll in the beginning of this thread, talking like that @conkhi troll is a legit member giving support to his view. Such a low tactic.

Unlike you, I give people the benefit of the doubt.

Conkhi is fine with me until proven otherwise.

In his own words, Jhungary has claimed to have grown up in China, US, and Vietnam.

The guy is a proven liar in his own words.

You cannot equate Conkhi to Jhungary.

Conkhi is an unknown. He claims to have been born in France. Until proven otherwise, I'm willing to accept it as true.

However, I cannot accept Jhungary's three completely different stories about where he grew up. I know when I'm being lied to. He is a liar.

 

[James David]

People I have a question, if I love Chinese Spring Fried Chicken and is madly in love to a Chinese descent American (my wife is half Chinese half Brit), does that make me Chinese? Just keeping it light people!!!!

 

[Martian2]

People I have a question, if I love Chinese Spring Fried Chicken and is madly in love to a Chinese descent American (my wife is half Chinese half Brit), does that make me Chinese? Just keeping it light people!!!!

You don't understand the problem.

If you have mixed heritage and you want to claim nationality, everyone accepts that as reasonable.

However, it is vastly different when a member claims three different backgrounds in the short three years that he has been here.

He never said: "I'm Vietnamese-Chinese-American-Mexican."

In 2013, he said: "My father is Mexican and my mother is Chinese-Vietnamese."
In 2015 (and possibly 2014), he said: "I AM from China."
In 2015, he said: "I was born in the United States."

Do you see the problem? The guy is changing his story completely. He told us three completely different stories!

That's a liar.

Also, if a person is truly Vietnamese-Chinese-American-Mexican then he can't honestly say "I AM from China." He has to say: "I am from Vietnam-China-United States-Mexico." It is extremely misleading to claim origin from only China when your father is Mexican.

 

[William Hung]

Unlike you, I give people the benefit of the doubt.

Conkhi is fine with me until proven otherwise.

In his own words, Jhungary has claimed to have grown up in China, US, and Vietnam.

The guy is a proven liar in his own words.

You cannot equate Conkhi to Jhungary.

Conkhi is an unknown. He claims to have been born in France. Until proven otherwise, I'm willing to accept it as true.

However, I cannot accept Jhungary's three completely different stories about where he grew up. I know when I'm being lied to. He is a liar.

I know the other main account of @conkhi, and his location.

And I don’t want to get involved in your personal vandetta and lobbying. Quite frankly, I find it a bit weird and too compulsive. I don’t trust anyone on the internet, including you. Like how you have said in the first page that you have never used any racial slur against anyone on PDF, but in fact, you have. You have used the racist word “monkey” just like some other Chinese members in the Far East section. So I don’t really trust anyone on the internet, nor should I take anyone too seriously, so I dont get why you are making such a big deal out of this vandetta. Anyway, I’m out. Don’t wanna get involved in this anymore.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I've never used a racial slur against anybody on PDF, IDF, ***, the other PDF, AsiaWind, SDF, or in the comment section of mainstream media.

--------- is not a slur. If it was, I wouldn't use it.

Trust me. Everybody in America uses the word -------.

Uh...I dunno. That's one of those touchy words/phrases you have to be careful with.
Sort of like "colored people" or "people of color".

Fred Sanford: "I was robbed"
White cop: "Was he colored"
Fred Sanford: "yeah....WHITE!"

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I disagree with you.

A person is not allowed to create a personal definition of what is a racial slur.

If a word is used in the mainstream media then it is not a racial slur. We are living in the 21st century and political correctness is everywhere.

While it is true that the word "Oriental" may have negative racial connotations in the past, that is not true today.

Thus, if you call me an "oriental," that is not a racial slur.

The word "oriental" is used in the mainstream media. Similarly, the word Chicano is like oriental. The racial overtones from 70 years ago have no relevance in the 21st century.

You are allowed to call me an oriental, whether I personally prefer it or not. It is not a racial slur.

The problem is the term when said by "others" is inferred by them as this:
The Racial Slur Database
They are not going to give you a smile if you say something like that. You might get a punch in the face.

 

[William Hung]

If you know Conkhi then that's the business between you two.

I don't know either of you.

I don't recall using the word monkey. Do you have a link?

Also, try looking up the word monkey in a dictionary. It's not a racial slur.

Examples of racial slurs are: "Ni**er, Sp*c, etc."
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A Google search for "defence.pk martian2 monkey" shows that I never used the word "monkey."

All Google searches show "Missing: monkey"

I didn’t want to get involved in this but have to make this post in case you accuse me of lying.

Yes, I still stand by my previous comment that you have used racial slurs before. I remembered that you used “monkey” to label us Vietnamese people not too long ago, along with some other disrespectful words about Vietnam. I couldn’t find that post anymore, or it got deleted/censored by a mod.

But I have found another quote that will do. You have called the Filipino people as “Filipino monkeys”. Its from an older post, but still proves that you have indeed used racial slur on PDF (contrary to your earlier claims that you have never done so):

China is 20 Germanies

You're retarded...

...By the way, Filipino monkeys have no right to brag and speak on behalf of the United States...

...Come out you Filipino chickens. You and your monkey leader Aquino trash talk a lot, but where are your Filipino marines? Send them out and let the PLA Navy mow you idiots down.

Its from this thread: South China Sea News & Discussions | Page 19 (post #279)

And dont tell me that “Filipino monkeys” is not a racial slur.

 

[William Hung]

Aquino talks trash about China all of the time. I don't have a problem with calling Aquino a monkey. His fellow countrymen are also monkeys.

When they go negative on China and Chinese, we fight fire with fire.

The Filipinos started the fight and the trash talk. Chinese are not going to take it lying down.

OK I think I’ve already said what I needed to say. I will now stay out of your fights. Like I said, I didn’t really want to get involved in the first place...(until someone faking as a Viet started this thread).

 

[Martian2]

The problem is the term when said by "others" is inferred by them as this:
The Racial Slur Database
They are not going to give you a smile if you say something like that. You might get a punch in the face.

No. That is not a mainstream site. That is someone's blog.

I have already provided mainstream citations from The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, and CBS News. Chicano is a mainstream term to describe someone who is a Mexican born in the United States.

Americans are not going to keep using the long and cumbersome phrase "a Mexican born in the United States" over and over again. We're going to use the word Chicano. I don't care if the Mexican-Viet is overly sensitive and claims that it's racist. That's his personal pet peeve.

When I look up a word in a respectable English dictionary and it says "racial slur" then I most definitely would not use that word. When most dictionaries (and I don't mean weird urban dictionaries) do not state that it is a slur, it is fair to use the term.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

No. That is not a mainstream site. That is someone's blog.

I have already provided mainstream citations from The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, and CBS News. Chicano is a mainstream term to describe someone who is a Mexican born in the United States.

Americans are not going to keep using the long and cumbersome phrase "a Mexican born in the United States" over and over again. We're going to use the word Chicano. I don't care if the Mexican-Viet is overly sensitive and claims that it's racist. That's his personal pet peeve.

When I look up a word in a respectable English dictionary and it says "racial slur" then I most definitely would not use that word. When most dictionaries (and I don't mean weird urban dictionaries) do not state that it is a slur, it is fair to use the term.

Well as I said "Chicano" may not be an outright slur...but it's an "iffy" word. I wouldn't say that in front of a Mexican or they are going to interpret that as "Chico". If there were any Mexicans on here maybe they would be better to chime in.

 

[Martian2]

Well as I said "Chicano" may not be an outright slur...but it's an "iffy" word. I wouldn't say that in front of a Mexican or they are going to interpret that as "Chico". If there were any Mexicans on here maybe they would be better to chime in.

Unless you have an alternative to Chicano, I will keep using it.

It is not an iffy word.

I gave citations from The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, and CBS News. Since all American mainstream media is using the term then it is perfectly normal.

If he doesn't like it, he can move back to Mexico.

In America, all Americans are using the term.

You want to play word-police, that's your problem. I never agreed that you were an acceptable word-policeman.
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Chicano is used in every corner of the United States. From Los Angeles to Phoenix to San Antonio to San Diego.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

If he doesn't like it, he can move back to Mexico.

haha!!

 

[jhungary]

I know the other main account of @conkhi, and his location.

And I don’t want to get involved in your personal vandetta and lobbying. Quite frankly, I find it a bit weird and too compulsive. I don’t trust anyone on the internet, including you. Like how you have said in the first page that you have never used any racial slur against anyone on PDF, but in fact, you have. You have used the racist word “monkey” just like some other Chinese members in the Far East section. So I don’t really trust anyone on the internet, nor should I take anyone too seriously, so I dont get why you are making such a big deal out of this vandetta. Anyway, I’m out. Don’t wanna get involved in this anymore.

A pretty good indicator on the issue is that the user @conkhi was immediately suspended upon the situation is raised, that alone said more than enough of some delusional Chinese Brigade who think the Feds is up his tail for being Pro-China.

As I said, do not mind that person, he is only important in his own little world, the rest of the forum see him as a joke as he is lol.

 

[Keel]

Definition of Chicano:
By various authoritative sources

Oxford Dictionaries:
1A.

Chicano: Learner's Dictionary

• CHICANO

Chicano noun
BrE /tʃɪˈkɑːnəʊ/

; NAmE /tʃɪˈkɑːnoʊ/

;BrE /ʃɪˈkɑːnəʊ/

; NAmE /ʃɪˈkɑːnoʊ/

;BrE also /tʃɪˈkeɪnəʊ/

,also /ʃɪˈkeɪnəʊ/

(especially US English, from Spanish)a person living in the US whose family came from Mexicocompare Chicana, Hispanic, Latino

1 B.
Chicano - definition of Chicano in English from the Oxford dictionary

Chicano

Line breaks: Chi|cano
Pronunciation: /tʃɪˈkɑːnəʊ/

/ʃɪˈkɑːnəʊ/ /tʃɪˈkeɪnəʊ/
Definition of Chicano in English:
noun (plural Chicanos)
chiefly US
North America) a person of Mexican origin ordescent, especially a man or boy:[AS MODIFIER]: Chicano cultureSee also Chicana.
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
Origin
Mexican Spanish, alteration of Spanish mejicano(masculine) 'Mexican



2. Spanish Dictionary

Chicano in English | Spanish to English Translation

chicano
Mexican-American
chicano
NOUN
1. (general)
a. Chicano, Mexican-American

2. (lengua)
a. Chicano

ADJECTIVE
3. (general)
a. Chicano, Mexican-American



3. Merriam-Webster

Chicano | Definition of Chicano by Merriam-Webster

Chicano

Full Definition of Chicano
plural Chi·ca·nos

an American and especially a man or boy of Mexican descent

Chicano adjective


4. Cambridge Advanced Learner’s Dictionary

Chicano noun [C]
UK /tʃɪˈkɑː.nəʊ/ US /-noʊ/ (pluralChicanos) informal
living in the US who was born in Mexico or whose parents came from Mexico

(Definition of Chicano from the Cambridge Advanced Learner’s Dictionary & Thesaurus © Cambridge University Press)

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